August 28, 2020 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #1896567
nOmesorah -“would leave you stuck with the point that Trump is not calming the masses today.”
Of course he’s Not calming them!
He’s too scared to speak their Language.
I’ll give you an Example:
In Portland, there have been Nightly Riots since the Death of Floyd.
I’m not saying that you have to act like them right away, but there is a Limit.
So first – you do the Tear Gas & the Flash Bangs.
So they keep coming back again. So that didn’t work.
The Next step is Rubber Bullets. If they keep coming back to riot, then you go even Further.
Possibly Live Fire.
To be clear – I’m talking about Riots, Not demonstrations. So don’t bring in the NG Shooting in the 70’s.
NO ONE is Above the Law – Not the Left or the Right!August 28, 2020 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #1896598
Old news that Trump is the ultimate wimp. Governors all over the country have managed to talk away most of the protests.
There was two nights of (almost) calm in early July. The rioting in Portland today, is in response to the Feds being there. Maybe Trump could be charged with inciting a riot.August 28, 2020 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #1896616
nOmesorah -“The rioting in Portland today, is in response to the Feds being there. Maybe Trump could be charged with inciting a riot.”
You now have proved to e/o in the CR, that your a Lib.
Since the Beginning of Aug., basically the Feds have left.
That didn’t stop all the riots.
Now they are attacking the Oregon State Police.
When are YOU Libs gonna admit – it’s Not Trumps fault?
This country is Full of Spoiled People.
And it’s mainly the DemonCrats Fault for all their HandOuts – that doesn’t give people an Incentive to Work!
WORK Has become a Four-Letter Word!August 28, 2020 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #1896625
It has calmed a great deal since the OSP started guarding the courthouse. The feds are still in the city. This little chat was about Trump helping solve the issue. The point that it is not his fault, concedes that he is not the man for the job.August 28, 2020 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #1896626
health, giving charity is an incentive not the work and let others give. You are as uncaring as Trump.
Why come to this world and earn your reward? In order not to get bread of shame.August 28, 2020 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #1896640
The goverment should support job training as the CETA program which I took advantage of.August 30, 2020 2:44 am at 2:44 am #1896801
nOmesorah -“It has calmed a great deal since the OSP started guarding the courthouse.”
Learn to speak the TRUTH!
It has calmed down around the Courthouse, but they still have Riots elsewhere!
“The feds are still in the city.”
Just like in Every City. Portland can’t succeed from the USA.
“This little chat was about Trump helping solve the issue. The point that it is not his fault, concedes that he is not the man for the job.”
You don’t Know what you’re Talking About!
The riots have Nothing to do with him, no matter how many times you Repeat it!August 30, 2020 3:07 am at 3:07 am #1896803
RE -“health, giving charity is an incentive not the work and let others give. You are as uncaring as Trump.”
No one Mentioned charity.
Learn how to follow a convo.August 30, 2020 10:39 am at 10:39 am #1896873
health, government is there to provide help as a springboard to ones losing their jobs because of health or economic conditions as charity is a temporary help. Neither of them encourages to stop looking for work as mentioned above. Sometimes people need retraining as their jobs were lost forever. I took unemployment benefits but never welfare.August 30, 2020 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1896899
RE -“health, government is there to provide help as a springboard to ones losing their jobs because of health or economic conditions as charity is a temporary help…”
I wasn’t talking about this year – with Covid19.
There are a lot of young people that don’t work.
It’s very common in the inner cities.
“And it’s mainly the DemonCrats Fault for all their HandOuts – that doesn’t give people an Incentive to Work!
WORK Has become a Four-Letter Word!”August 30, 2020 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #18969181Participant
Are Joe Biden and Kamala Harris really “moderate” Democrats like the media claims?
Not unless you think giving amnesty to 11 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS or raising taxes on the middle class are “moderate” positions. The truth is, they are a Trojan Horse for SOCIALISMAugust 30, 2020 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #1897014
According to organizations that track voting records, Biden is a tick closer to the median vote, than center left. Which puts him dead on the spots as a moderate. Of course, he is more to the left than he was thirty years ago. As the entire political scheme has shifted a lot to the left. (My opinion is that this is the fallout of the neocons undercutting the true conservatives.) Most Republican senators today, are more left than Biden was when he started in the senate in the early seventies(!). If four decades is not enough of a track record to prove a moderate, than there likely never was a moderate. (Or maybe there is a slight chance that your own politics are polarized.)
Harris has not settled into a specific political platform. It is a long topic, but she has made herself comfortable with leftist positions, without comitting to said positions.August 30, 2020 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #1897025The little I knowParticipant
It is getting silly to discuss whether Biden is a moderate or not. What does matter is who is pulling his puppet strings. he has a heap of radicals who are pressuring him to the left, with major force. He has some in his campaign who are scared of the consequences of the left shift, and are pulling back. So we get to read all these media articles about “flip flop”. Yes, Obama y”sh did that, too. So he agrees to defund police, then says, “No way, I’ for law and order”. Then he says he would slash funding again. So the winds determine his position.
He is no longer a moderate, nor a leftist. It’s about who is applying pressure at the moment. And that is scary. His campaign staff don’t work much past the election. Only a few might participate in transition. Then come the leftists, and they are far more relentless than the pushers of a moderate position.August 30, 2020 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1897047
I think Portland is an important topic, and I would like to discuss it at length. First let’s clear this debate out of the way. I do not think Portland is because of Trump. I said I doubt that he can solve these issues. You repeated that it is not his fault. You never said that he can fix it. It seems like we agree that it is not his fault. Can we move on?
[My point is that Trump seems unable or unwilling to end the civil unrest taking place now. And there is no reason to guess that he will handle it well in the future. Being that the factors in place will continue to come to a reckoning over race, class, and culture for the near future, the next president should be one that can reckon with civil unrest. The current president has not demonstrated that he is able to accomplish this mission.]August 31, 2020 12:07 am at 12:07 am #1897069
nOmesorah -“The current president has not demonstrated that he is able to accomplish this mission.”
And even so, he’ll win this next election!
What most people understand, Not like the Libs, you can’t just let the Anachrists do what they want.
Biden never learnt – if you give them a finger – they want a hand.
If you give them a hand – they want an arm. And so on & on!August 31, 2020 12:21 am at 12:21 am #1897075
Dear The Little,
It is silly to assume that someone who has been active in politics for fifty years, would be pushed around by unproven radicals. Add to this, that both parties attempted to recruit him when he was in his twenties. Also, he was completely loyal to President Obama’s platform, (Even though he personally disagreed.) who was not even born when Biden entered the senate. He will demand the same loyalty out of those around him. Additionally, Biden stumped for Bush on the senate floor, even though he did not agree with him completely.
The irony of accusing Biden of pushing around foreign oligarchs and governments for a few thousand dollars, but being unable to withstand the pressure of a few politicians who have little national appeal, is flat out ridiculous.
Biden pulled short of defunding the police. He was careful to never cross that line. He is not a major speaker, and anything can come out of his mouth at anytime, but he has mastered the art of policy. When the Conservatives and Conservatism peaked in the Nineties, nobody had a problem with Joe Biden.August 31, 2020 1:24 am at 1:24 am #1897077
Okay, we agree Trump is not the man for the job. Now, to Portland.
A cornerstone of our democracy is due process. There are laws and rights to protect those who have committed crimes. And the State is legally bound to give reason for all it’s judicial activity. What is the surveillance being carried out in major cities on American citizens? Who is the spokesperson for the federal agents in Portland and Seattle? What are Border and Customs agents doing there? And who’s decision was all this?August 31, 2020 1:27 am at 1:27 am #1897085
My mistake, Obama was eleven and a half when Biden entered the Senate. (I was off by a decade in my head, and was thinking of the first time Biden ran for office.)August 31, 2020 11:22 am at 11:22 am #1897213
nOmesorah -“What is the surveillance being carried out in major cities on American citizens? Who is the spokesperson for the federal agents in Portland and Seattle? What are Border and Customs agents doing there? And who’s decision was all this?”
IDK. But I’m sure you will get all the answers that you seek after the Anarchy stops.
Some things in Life comes first.August 31, 2020 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #1897261
So you prefer a police state to anarchy. That is okay. To me it depends how severe the situation is. Though in our case, neither the riots or the feds are that big a deal. The question is how does it end.August 31, 2020 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #1897274
nOmesorah -“So you prefer a police state to anarchy.”
Actually, I’ve already told you what I preferred in a different Topic.
Are you becoming Senile?!?
I’ll repeat it because you don’t remember.
I think I posted this in the “Defund Police” topic:
I prefer going back to the Wild Wild West.
You Libs think – take away Law-abiding Citizens Guns & No More Cops.
That’s fine with me, but I’m going to Defend Myself.
We are going to Even the Playing Field.
That’s why this Election – Trump will Win in a Landslide!August 31, 2020 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #1897409
That was a very revealing post!
Besides for what it implies to the topic at hand – as well the latent context of the upcoming election – it spoke volumes for your priority of freedoms.
Who is taking away law abiding citizens? Hmmm. Must be an unmarked van in Portland.
Who is saying no more cops? Hmmmm. Must be those calling for The National Guard.
The idea of ‘Defund’ is to end up with a more potent police force.
I wish you can better defend yourself in person.
But here is the kicker. It seems like whenever you find your opponent to be mistaken, you call them a liberal. That means that you understand that everyone has to subscribe to some singular understanding, or be mistaken. Who is the liberal here?September 1, 2020 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #1897596
nOmesorah -“Who is taking away law abiding citizens? Hmmm. Must be an unmarked van in Portland.”
This is one case. There are many States like California, that severely Limit Gun ownership.
“Who is saying no more cops? Hmmmm. Must be those calling for The National Guard.”
What Kind of Dream World are you Living in?!?
NYC just removed 1 Billion from the Cops Budget.
In Minneapolis, they want to get rid of PD – that we all call PD!
“The idea of ‘Defund’ is to end up with a more potent police force.”
What a Lie!
I just posted what it is.September 11, 2020 2:22 am at 2:22 am #1900513bored guyParticipant
the second gentleman, harris’s husband will be jewish.
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