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  • #594131
    popa_bar_abba
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    In this thread, we will list all the names the mods tell us are really Joseph.

    We will also look through his past posts and see how he is trolling and trying to manipulate our emotions. (Ex. claiming to be out of work, and then complaining he has too much money.)

    We will discuss if we think we should respond to him (her?) and his possible motives.

    The way to search past posts is to click on your screenname which takes you to your profile. You can then change the account you are viewing by substituting the name you want in the web address.

    Ex- http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/trying-my-best

    As you can see, substitute – for a space.

    Mods: Help us out by posting all his usernames.

    #734403
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant
    #734406
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    You mean all these nutjobs are one person? At least half my reason for joining was to annoy them!

    #734407

    Joseph is still alive?

    #734408
    eclipse
    Member

    No one is a nut job.

    A truly crazy person is not “bad”.

    A truly bad person doesn’t deserve the excuse of being crazy.

    A person who insults others (as many do)for any reason…should be called on it.At the time.Not forever after.

    #734409
    rabbiofberlin
    Participant

    when does he have time ???

    #734410
    2qwerty
    Participant

    Is there a halachic problem with having multiple screen names?

    ginevas daas?

    mdvar sheker tirchak?

    #734411
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    How do you like this?

    Here, he tells us he has been out of work for 18 months:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/tough-conditions

    Here, he has too much money:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/too-much-money

    #734412
    Shticky Guy
    Participant

    Prince Charming: Joseph is still alive?

    Od Joseph chai, v’chi hu moshel b’chol eretz Yeshiva World!!! 😉

    Truth is, despite my light hearted comments in the Screen Names thread, Joseph’s multiple screennames dont bother me. I do not especially try to build up a picture in my mind of posters and I take each post at face value cos I dont know the identity of posters anyway. If you do have a mental pic of posters then you will disagree.

    #734413
    kapusta
    Participant

    What about myfriend?

    *kapusta*

    #734414
    shlishi
    Member

    looking at popas links its obvious it takes many months or years until any screen name is recognized as being him (assuming its accurate). ill bet he is laughing at us while posting with a half a dozen still active names hes been already using for months that arent yet recognized (and when they are he’ll have another batch already in operation). could even be most of his names were still not found. for all we know he may be participating right here now!

    #734415
    ibn Hugo
    Member

    Popa_bar_Abba,

    Not all of those links work. Even with those that do, I can’t see the connection.

    Every link works, and we see the connection. In fact, this is your latest username. What a loser.

    #734416
    apushatayid
    Participant

    I think Popa is Joseph too.

    #734417
    achosid
    Participant

    No way not Popa.

    #734418
    amichai
    Participant

    why don’t we just ask him straight out, why does he do it? why does he have many usernames? you wanna answer, joseph?

    #734419
    eclipse
    Member

    Maybe his father was very nervous when he was 8 days old,and gave him a lot of names.

    #734420
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    This is a very old problem. I complained about this back in June 2009.

    I’m very happy to see that it’s being seriously addressed now. Thank you mods.

    The Wolf

    We’ve tried to mark each known Joseph for your convenience. How have a look at this recent thread, and see for yourself what has been going on

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/chilul-hashem-from-the-pulpit

    #734421
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    Theory: Mods, is the IP address from EY?

    No they are not

    #734423
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    GAW,

    Are you thinking what I’m thinking, that it’s a bunch of yeshiva bochurim in the same dorm using the same computer and IP address?

    One point against that theory; they might have used it as a defense.

    #734425
    yanky dino
    Member

    i know for a fact that Popa_bar_Abba, isnt joseph now what 🙂

    #734426
    2qwerty
    Participant

    So Joseph, did you ask your Rov if you are allowed to create many screen names and deceive us into thinking that its different people?

    Am I the only one who thinks it may be a halachic problem?

    #734427
    iyhbyu
    Member

    LOL that ibn hugo response was hilarious.

    I’m pretty sure he comes from a very frum background and unfortunately went off the D.

    I wouldn’t be shocked if it was a bunch of yeshiva bochurim, but I don’t think they would cause such a chilul hashem.

    Anyways, Joseph-if you’re out there and I’m correct, just remember it’s never too late do to Teshuva.

    #734428
    deiyezooger
    Member

    just have fun and continue reading until you fall asleep shhhh… zzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!

    #734429
    oomis
    Participant

    I don’t care at all if someone posts under different names – UNLESS…. the purpose of doing so is to make it appear erroneously that lots of people agree with his post, when in fact he is simply agreeing with himself. That is kind of gneivas daas-y, and I don’t believe Joseph would do that, even if I almost never agreed with him.

    #734430
    ronrsr
    Member

    all Joseph, all the time.

    #734431
    smartcookie
    Member

    Wow! I just read through the thread “chilul Hashem from the pulpit”. I can’t believe how bored a person can be.

    It’s beyond me why a person should talk to themselves on a blog. Do they alo talk to themselves IRL?

    Mods: any way we can be Dan Lkaf Zchus? (Like different Bochurim from one Yeshiva?)

    it’s been researched

    #734432

    I don’t really get the ‘checking the profile’ proof, unless it’s just the similarity of the extensiveness. I never pay attention to names when I read posts so I never form profiles, but now that I’ve read that C”H from the pulpit thread I find it facinating. If it was a bunch of different users from one IP address they would have to have been sitting on each others laps! (I know cuz I have 3 users on my laptop and we can rarely be part of the same conversation unless we do just that) But I must say that if the posts are from the midwest, I could swear I recognize the personality as a former schoolmate. I’m just not sure that he would have such a good command of yeshivish dialects/terms.

    #734433
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Wow! I just read through the thread “chilul Hashem from the pulpit”. I can’t believe how bored a person can be.

    It’s beyond me why a person should talk to themselves on a blog. Do they alo talk to themselves IRL?

    where do you see that “he” are talking to “himself” i read through it and can’t see it, I just see how he uses other names to comment on certain people

    #734434
    Sender Av
    Member

    Maybe he(If he is such) is a bunch of siblings????

    #734435
    Sender Av
    Member

    I have the solution. Charge $ for every additional screename coming from the same IP address! Although I do know that Myname613 is coming from the same as me and most likley Wolf and Eees considering they are married. We’ll fine tune it as we figure it out.*

    * a joke(for anyone unintelligent enough to get it)**

    **also a joke

    #734436
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    I have the solution. Charge $ for every additional screename coming from the same IP address!

    how are you going to charge them, and also how are you going to know regarding kids etc and an IP adress can be changed

    #734437
    Sender Av
    Member

    visa, amex,mastercharge.

    #734438
    smartcookie
    Member

    Mbachur- some of his posts are contradicting other things he says. Obviously, he’s arguing with himself. (Although he just trying to fool us into thinking it’s different people.)

    #734439
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    We’ll fine tune it as we figure it out.*

    * a joke(for anyone unintelligent enough to get it)**

    **also a joke

    Hey! I didn’t see that little asterisk at the end! I also thought you meant use asterisks for jokes too and i was like….WHAT?

    #734440
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    oh i see, like one screenname says its a chillul Hashem and one that says it’s an honor to serve us

    #734441
    Sender Av
    Member

    MB,It’s okay. I still think you are intelligent.

    #734442
    smartcookie
    Member

    Yes, and one thread he says he’s out of work and oh so helpless, and another thread he say what do I do with so much extra money…

    I mean, how bored are people?

    Go get a life.

    #734444
    shlishi
    Member

    “it’s been researched”

    Was the rosh yeshiva called for the research and he said it wasn’t several? And if there are many ip’s, are you assuming they are him based on the context of the postings? If so you could be erroneously including other posters thinking its him.

    #734445

    Isn’t real-brisker also him? Why doesn’t that one say Joseph?

    #734446
    Health
    Participant

    popa_bar_abba -Hey Popa, you didn’t include WIY. Does this mean WIY is someone else?

    #734448
    eclipse
    Member

    And the search for Sybil continues…

    #734449
    Dave Hirsch
    Participant

    I’ll address Joseph:

    I’ll start with a parable: A wealthy man once had an excessive amount of cash that he wished to invest. He went around asking his confidants for good investment deals. One day, a friend approached him with a great offer. He told him about a deal that sounded just right; he would earn huge profits on the given investment. He profusely thanked him and placed a call to the investor. The funds investor sounded warm and sincere as he explained the deal in great detail. Before agreeing to make an appointment, the wealthy man asked the investor for references. The investor rattled off a few names and numbers as the man jotted them on a piece of paper. The referees gave him outstanding reviews on this investor and encouraged him to go for the deal. At last, a meeting was set where they would discuss the specifications of the investment before coming to an agreement. The day arrived as the man made his way to the investor’s office. He rang the bell and the door opened. What shock did he have when he realized that the investor was none other than the aforementioned friend, the one who recommended him. “Why didn’t you tell me it was you?” asked the man. His friend answered him that he simply wanted him to feel comfortable and confident about the deal. “I wanted you to understand this investment from many angles,” he further explained to the man. “Are you suggesting that all of the referees I spoke to was you?” “Yes,” explained his friend, “I wanted you to get all aspects.” “I won’t do the deal,” announced his friend. “Although I trust you, I cannot agree to do this deal now that you fooled me.”

    Everyone would agree that this fellow who wouldn’t finalize on the deal has a point. Although he knows that his friend is an honest man, he felt deceived. He was coerced into thinking that many people already invested with the prospective investor and reaped fruits of their investment. Can someone say that his friend did something wrong? No. Was it unethical? Yes.

    When someone feels the need to abuse multiple screen-names to support his cause, he isn’t necessarily doing something wrong; however, it isn’t straightforwardness. It just shows that he lacks self-esteem or that he isn’t completely sure of his theory or opinion. You might fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all time. A name is only powerful when it’s sincere and identified; an anonymous post is only half the truth. If your name isn’t enough to put leverage on your claim, it needs to be strengthened. Perhaps, you shall seek a social worker to work on your self-esteem and honesty. Your selfishness only ruined the trust of yourself and many others in the Coffee Room. Words have consequences and it should have the power to do so. You ruined it for many of us that aren’t considered trustworthy anymore because of your indecisiveness. People who came here to have sincere talk and honest debates, are now second-guessed. My image has been tarnished because of your immaturity, as many now question my integrity. My suggestion to you is: Work on your self-respect and then come back.

    #734451
    smartcookie
    Member

    DAVE- why do you feel that some posters foolishness effected you?

    #734452

    Dave Hirsch-

    Very well put.

    I am actually less understanding of the “multiple SN” tactic than you are.

    The temptation to bring “support” to one’s views is understandable – but it isn’t yashrus.

    There can be legit reasons to use a second SN – so as not to blow one’s cover, starting over if the cover has been blown, etc. – but not stam to give a false impression of agreement or a consensus.

    FWIW, I believe some of the info given by “Joseph” may be accurate – please be careful not to cheppeh in a way that may be cruel.

    #734453
    oomis
    Participant

    If one’s “cover is blown,” do you really think that that person’s posting style would not be easily recognizable in another persona? If I started posting as say, LovingBubbyof3,(oops, now I can’t), don’t you think you would recognize my hashkafos and way of expressing myself?

    #734456
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    most likley Wolf and Eees considering they are married.

    Eeees, to the best of my knowledge, does not browse or post in the CR.

    The Wolf

    #734458
    real-brisker
    Member

    mil – NO real-brisker IS NOT HIM.

    #734459

    “mil – NO real-brisker IS NOT HIM.”

    First of all, I’m not your mother-in-law. Second, in another thread, one of the mods implied otherwise and that is why I asked.

    #734460
    Sender Av
    Member

    Wolf, didnt she use to? I remember that screename from somewhere.

    Eclipse, you are hilarious. LOL funny!

    #734461
    Pashuteh Yid
    Member

    I was surprised RuffRuff was Joseph, because I believe 2 years ago he was adamantly against dogs in some thread. If not him, many kannaim came out against them from what I remember.

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