the teshuva thread

[popa_bar_abba]

This thread is for bumping whenever you start making a new thread but then don’t post it because you decide you really do believe in Hashem and right and wrong.

But you still want us to know how clever you are. So you post it here

[popa_bar_abba]

So tonight I was gonna post under the title “kaballah”. Anask if anyone else had heard the idea that there are 36 hidden reshaim who destroy the world and they look just like tzaddikim, unless you’re also a rasha like them.

[Chortkov]

I love you, Pops.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

And how…

Never mind.

[Randomex]

Can someone please tell me what the first paragraph of Popa’s first

post is referencing?

DaasYochid:

Took me a moment, again. Hilarious!

(Then I figured out that it didn’t make sense. But so what?)

popa_bar_abba:

Funny, thanks! But why would the 36 r’shaim look like tzaddikim?

It’s not like we’re told that the 36 tzaddikim look like r’shaim.

Or is it? (Probably so there’d be more to the parody…)

[Chortkov]

First paragraph of Popas post was referring to http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/theological-conundrum-read-at-your-own-risk.

[popa_bar_abba]

No, I didn’t read the conundrum thread. Just openeded, read half the question. Decided it didn’t bother me, and closed it.

[👑RebYidd23]

But arguments are always interesting. They usually get silly.

[Chortkov]

I find arguments interesting only until they get silly, ?? ??? ?? ????.

[👑RebYidd23]

But after they get silly they get serious and shift into a different argument.

[Patur Aval Assur]

Ok, I really do believe in Hashem.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

Inspired by the SUC, I was going to start a thread called, “Wouldn’t it be Funny If…?” and hypothesize which usernames might just be a second account.

For example, wouldnt it be funny if Shopping613 was really HaLeiVi?

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

Is this for new threads also, or for posts also? Because I was going to post why I thought popa isn’t bothered by PAA’s conundrum.

[popa_bar_abba]

Jokes

At Bnos chava they eat from the etz hadas while bnos sarah watches and laughs?

[Patur Aval Assur]

And then they both plead not guilty.

[Patur Aval Assur]

I have another joke involving two seminaries but I’m not sure if I should say it. I’ll think about it overnight. In the meantime (though you might not get this one):

Q. Why is it called Machon Raya?

A. Because the girls always demand sources for everything.

[Randomex]

PAA:

I take it the reason someone might not get

is the way the name of the sem is pronounced?

[Patur Aval Assur]

The reason someone wouldn’t get it is that he/she might not be aware of how the answer describes a Machon Raya girl.

[Randomex]

PAA:

Perhaps you can explain that part, but it

works well as a play on words either way.

[Patur Aval Assur]

Randomex:

Machon Raya is known for its students asking for sources. As opposed to some other seminaries where a Rabbi/Teacher can just say an idea without providing a source. Therefore it is interesting that the seminary is called Machon Raya (although in actuality it is named after a person named Raya).

[Patur Aval Assur]

Here’s my joke from last night:

Q. What did the edited girl say to the edited girl?

A. Stop edited my edited.

[Patur Aval Assur]

Since the theological conundrum thread is active again I have to reaffirm that “I really do believe in Hashem”.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

I’m aware of that. I also assume that you believe the Torah is from Him.

That’s why you should agree that there is inherent morality.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

I was going to post a response to this:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/proof-that-women-are-better-than-men, particularly the beginning of the last sentence of the second to last paragraph, but decided not to.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

I’m not posting my thoughts on popa’s strawman DT thread.

[popa_bar_abba]

post! post! post! post!

[ItcheSrulik]

I’m not posting my real life examples of strawman da’as torah

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

Bump

[popa_bar_abba]

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-teshuva-thread#post-546825

If I posted this, you can post what you were going to say.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

No, just that the bein Adam l’chaveiro thread reminded me of this.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

Bump

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

I was going to post the following thread:

Popa is just as unreliable as the OU

See, he blames the OU for people stupidly carelessly skimming labels, but his thread essentially did the same thing! He titled his thread: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/ou-kashrus-is-not-reliable, and if you actually read what he wrote, he is is not claiming the standards of halachah or supervision are subpar, rather he is taking them to task for labeling and information dissemination issues.

Sure enough, people stupidly read only the title and accused popa of defaming the OU’s actual level of kashrus.

He should work for the OU.

…

I didn’t post it, though, because I really do believe in Hashem and right and wrong.

But I still want you to know how clever I am. So I posted it here.

[popa_bar_abba]

I don’t see any distinction between labeling something pareve which is milchig, based on a mistake in policy versus a mistake in labeling.

Either way=unreliable

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

There are different types of unreliable. Mislabeling (for whatever reason) ? mistakes in halachah or poor supervision.

Do you eat in OU restaurants? According to your misleading title (l’shitascha), you shouldn’t.

Popa=OU.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

This, by the way, would be the perfect thread to admit that you were wrong (not about Dirty Chips, about Jolly Ranchers).

[popa_bar_abba]

There are different types of unreliable. Mislabeling (for whatever reason) ? mistakes in halachah or poor supervision.

Why? Is it any different to label pig kosher because you weren’t watching them bring the pig in, versus because you weren’t looking at the labels they were putting on?

This, by the way, would be the perfect thread to admit that you were wrong (not about Dirty Chips, about Jolly Ranchers).

v’chein l’mar

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

Of course there are differences. If labeling is the issue, an alert consumer can catch it. Also, as I mentioned, restaurants and catering would be a nafka mina.

[popa_bar_abba]

Of course there are differences. If labeling is the issue, an alert consumer can catch it.

Sometimes. Do you assume they pay more attention to whether the label says pareve when the ingredients say “cassien” instead of “milk”? I doubt that.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

I think if the label actually said pareve, or if it wasn’t a product which consumers normally associate with being milchig, they would have made a recall.

Even if you disagree with their method of dealing with the mistake, your title is misleading (l’shitascha) because it implies that you think people should not eat OU products. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it doesn’t seem to me that you actually think that, just that you think the OU should change their policies.

Oh, and restaurants.

[popa_bar_abba]

I think the OU should be ashamed of itself, as a general matter.

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

They should post on this thread, but that’s not my point of contention with you.

You have not disagreed with me that their faults notwithstanding, one can still rely on them to purchase a product or eat in a restaurant, so your thread is mislabeled.

[CopyMachine]

Do any of you know what a tremendous achrayus it is to be a moderator of such a forum, where there is such mud-slinging that goes back and forth?

I tremble for the person that reads each post and decides whether or not it is “bad enough” to not make it into print.

I mean, how can someone approve a post that a major kashrus organization should be ashamed? How can one not be terrified to allow random, faceless writers to gang up on a single person at times?

Oh the weight of being a forum administrator!

I pity you people.

Maybe we all should just be a little more careful and THINK before posting our negative thoughts???

[👑RebYidd23]

That’s pretty negative.

[CopyMachine]

Well… At least I thought about it, before posting it!

[YW Moderator-29 👨‍💻]

And I am eternally grateful.

[☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲]

CopyMachine:
I have been in different communities where the physical tznuis was arguably worse than the worst edited kehillah (hate to stereotype, but let’s face it, edited as a majority is pretty pathetic in this regard)

cough cough

[☕ DaasYochid ☕]

Bump

[popa_bar_abba]

I heard today that you know why one leitzanus is docheh meah tochachos?

Bec ketzas mehaor is docheh harbei meihachoshech

[Lilmod Ulelamaid]

Copymachine – +1. Those posts should be deleted as they are pure loshon hora.

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