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  • #1917553
    Gadolhadorah
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    The letter George H.W. Bush left for Bill Clinton on January 20, 1993 is a lesson in grace and a reminder of a different era in our polarized nation’s past that seems like ancient history but B’H hopefully we might recapture going forward

    Dear Bill,
    When I walked into this office just now I felt the same sense of wonder and respect that I felt four years ago. I know you will feel that, too.
    I wish you great happiness here. I never felt the loneliness some Presidents have described. There will be very tough times, made even more difficult by criticism you may not think is fair. I’m not a very good one to give advice; but just don’t let the critics discourage you or push you off course.
    You will be our President when you read this note. I wish you well. I wish your family well. YOUR SUCCESS NOW IS OUR COUNTRY’S SUCCESS. I WILL BE ROOTING HARD FOR YOU.
    Good luck—
    George

    #1917646
    Ben Levi
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    If only the Dems would have shown that same grace towards Trump.

    #1917657
    pekak
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    According to you (OP) only a Republican has to be gracious in transitioning. Democrats are correct, nay REQUIRED to set up nasty roadblocks for the arriving administration to have to maneuver around for the next 4 years.

    #1917712
    ujm
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    Bill Clinton refused for 36 days to allow George Bush to begin transition of power in 2000, until Al Gore completed all legal proceedings against his loss. Biden should expect no better. Let him wait to the completion of all legal proceedings.

    #1917714
    Reb Eliezer
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    Obama invited Trump to the WH and was graceful to him discscussing all impotant transition considerations but Trump was out in his whole presidential term to dismantle all his accomplishments including the ACA.

    #1917716
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️

    STOP THE PRESSES

    After a post like this there is really nothing left to say about election 2020. This post wins every award and should be brinzed and framed and hung in every psychiatry office as the living definition of denial.

    Gd help us

    #1917744
    KGN
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    Bill didn’t steal the election.

    Joe did via rigging.

    #1917834
    Amil Zola
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    President Obama’s letter to President Trump.

    Dear Mr. President
    Congratulations on a remarkable run. Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure.

    This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don’t know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful. Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years.

    First, we’ve both been blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune. Not everyone is so lucky. It’s up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that’s willing to work hard.

    Second, American leadership in this world really is indispensable. It’s up to us, through action and example, to sustain the international order that’s expanded steadily since the end of the Cold War, and upon which our own wealth and safety depend.

    Third, we are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions — like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties — that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it’s up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.

    And finally, take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family. They’ll get you through the inevitable rough patches.

    Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.

    Good luck and Godspeed,

    BO

    #1918313
    Abba_S
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    Trump didn’t concide so his GSA is not releasing funds or office space for Biden’s transition team. So I am not sure how this is going to work. It maybe January 20 before they get access

    #1918333
    Reb Eliezer
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    #1918337
    ujm
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    The electoral college is certified on December 8 (by each state), votes on December 14 (in the fifty state capitals) and is counted on January 6 (in Congress.) Those are the dates that officially make one candidate the official winner and President-Elect.

    #1918350
    Gadolhadorah
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    The term “President-Elect” has about as much legal significance as a “Lame Duck President”. We currently have a “lame duck” stewing in the WH and “tweeting” rather than “quacking” but otherwise nothing has changed.

    #1918354
    ujm
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    GHD: Is what you’re trying to indicate that when Mr. Biden today held a news conference with a huge sign behind him saying “OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT-ELECT, JOSEPH BIDEN” it was all just a show-and-tell P.R. act, much like the media’s constant use of that title for him?

    #1918422
    Abba_S
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    Until Trump concedes or he uses up all his appeals he can still remain in office. In a standard eviction case the landlord goes to court to evict the tenant, which in this case is GSA who is siding with Trump. Getting him out will require a court order. The Democrats and the media for months have been talking about this, now they are going to be forced to do something about it. They can always impeach him but I doubt the Senate will approve.
    It’s been a week since the election and yet control of the Senate and even the House of Representatives haven’t been declared. Getting qualified candidates maybe a problem if the transition team can’t even get office space and funding. Likewise, whose going to quit a high paying job when they are not assured Senate approval needed to get the job.

    #1918460
    Gadolhadorah
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    Biden is playing it smart and allowing Trump some time to “accept” the outcome without piling on the humiliation of calling him a “loser” and c’v triggering some really crazy stuff which everyone fears is possible with this guy. Biden has been in D.C. long enough to have extensive experience with the federal government and doesn’t need immediate orientation briefings. His network of contacts have already established working relationships with senior career personnel in all the key agencies and they are in preliminary discussions, albeit at Starbucks and rented hotel suites rather than the decrepit federal office building in the Navy Yard used every 4 years for “official” transition team
    activities. I suspect within a few weeks, the reality will have sunk in and the Trumpkopf will be hiding out in Mar aLago planning his new Trump TV Network to challenge Fox and keep the MAGA spirit alive. If not, then as the Dems noted in their press release a few days ago, “the Secret Service and Federal marshals have well-established procedures to remove trespassers from the White House grounds”.

    #1918469

    Abba S: You wrote “Until Trump concedes or he uses up all his appeals he can still remain in office.”. The president remains in office until the next president takes the oath at noon on January twentieth. He doesnt vacate the white house until then.

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