September 2, 2012 10:07 am at 10:07 am #604751Joseph613Member
I often console myself when reading anti traditional or anti chareidi posts by reminding myself that from the time that Moshe faced mockers all the way to the days of the modern-day Maskillim – the Jewish nation has had its fair share of internal problems. Can anyone list other instances in Jewish history where the mesorah was threatened by “ancient bloggers?”September 2, 2012 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #894476icedMember
Doson and Aviram, the Egel, Korach, Samaritans, Saduccees, Zealots, Karaaites, Enlightenment, Reform, Conservative, Bloggers.
I’m sure I’m leaving many more out, even obvious and well known ones.September 2, 2012 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #894477lesschumrasParticipant
Actually if you look in Succos daf yud aleph there is a machlokes as to whether Rav held a certain position; each had a mesorah that contradicted each otherSeptember 2, 2012 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #894478CuriosityParticipant
Umm… guys, it’s probably better not to be making a list for Israel’s ????? right before Rosh Hashanah… just sayingSeptember 2, 2012 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #894479yichusdikParticipant
Imagine that. And I console myself knowing that the practical and worldly perushim won out over the elitism and fundamentalism (in the most accurate sense of the word) of the tzedukim.September 2, 2012 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #894480sheinMember
The tzedukim were more worldly.September 2, 2012 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #894481RebRYMember
The Bloggers are so bad, all the apikurses that they write against the Torah and Hashem. Frum Satire is funny though how he makes fun of the frum life because a lot of what he says is true.September 3, 2012 2:41 am at 2:41 am #894482Sam2Participant
Shein: Look at the Mishnayos in Yadayim. Most of the cases where the Tzedukkim accused Chazal of being wrong were where the Tzeddukim wanted to be more Machmir in Tumah V’taharah cases and Chazal said no. (Also, read any of the historical works (including the Frum ones) that will tell you that a lot of the anti-Mesorah sects in Bayis Sheni were actually more Machmir than the Mesorah, which was why they were against Mesorah. They felt they were better than Mesorah. That’s why the whole community was in Kumran. They wouldn’t live in an area with other Jews because they felt they were all Tamei.)September 3, 2012 2:45 am at 2:45 am #894483sheinMember
I didn’t comment about their being more machmir.September 3, 2012 11:44 am at 11:44 am #894484yichusdikParticipant
By worldly, I mean dealing with the halachic ramifications of everyday things like farming, relationships, property; I mean giving guidance to the lives of the majority of Jews who didn’t live in cities, and didn’t have wealth.
The Tzedukim were most concerned (Jewishly) about their prerogatives in and around the bais hamikdosh, and about their state of purity.
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