There are other Issues Affecting Jews besides Yeshiva Funding

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    The askonim shouldn’t only use Yeshiva funding as a cause for getting the funding, I know zionism has become a dirty word among the charedi world but anti-zionism is today’s nazism. It’s delusional to think that kissing up to get a few dollars from Mamdani is the answer when he’s calling for globalizing the intifada and making Israel support a crime. You’re falling into the same trap as the askonim in 1930s Poland.

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    ujm
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    Pro-Zionism is today’s pro-Nazism.

    You’re falling into the same trap as the Biryonim (בריונים) of Jerusalem.

    #2463583
    HaKatan
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    Zionism has not “become a dirty word”, as if it was always so wonderful. Zionism is fundamentally anti-Jewish and is diametrically opposed to Judaism.

    Regarding the comparison to the 1930s, first, some background:
    Throughout galus, whenever a place turned hostile to Jews, Hashem always arranged other places to open up to take in the Jews. The sole exception was the Holocaust, because the Zionists interfered in that hashgacha and lobbied governments against allowing Jews into their countries, and on and on.

    There are at least two fundamental differences between today and 1930s Poland.
    1. The Zionists then needed rivers of Jewish blood spilled to get “sympathy” from the nations in order to get their Zionist “State”. But, at this point, they already have their Zionist “State”.
    2. We have a mesorah from Rav Chaim Volozhin that the last station in galus for Torah is in America.

    #2463587
    yeshivaman613
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    Is there anything that one could say on YWN that actually gets moderated? Or is this just a forum for anyone to spew whatever cefira or conspiracy theory that pops in their head?

    #2463732
    ☕️coffee addict
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    @yeshivaman613,

    The moderators in their infinite wisdom wants to get us ready for life under Mamdani so they don’t police the posts and instead are in the process of hiring social workers

    😜🤣

    #2463731
    somejewiknow
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    @yeshivaman613
    the problem is that if they started filtering out the kefira, they would have to silence the zionist voices. not sure WHY that’s the problem exactly, but that seems to be the problem.

    #2463797
    HaKatan
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    somejewiknow:
    Presumably, the problem is that their advertisers wouldn’t like that silence.

    #2463862
    ZSK
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    Askanim should not exist. Period.

    HaKatan:
    “We have a mesorah from Rav Chaim Volozhin that the last station in galus for Torah is in America.”

    Again, provide a documented source.

    #2463867
    @fakenews
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    Having read through Rav Elchanan Wasserman’s Ikvesa D’Meshicha, I’m getting a kick out of parts of this convo.

    #2463904
    HaKatan
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    ZSK:
    Links are not allowed, but see please Judaism StackExchange question #82218.

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