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HaKatan: I didn’t say anything about omissions. Your answer is a non-answer – exactly what I expected from you.
yankel berel:
The Avnei Nezer never stated that the oaths are inapplicable and/or irrelevant. The Avnei Zezer agrees that the oaths are indeed relevant and applicable, as brought by numerous poskim throughout the ages and as unfortunately whose deadly punishment was seen – and documented – by chazal throughout the ages.As mentioned to you above, but seemingly ignored:
“No, he does not dispute it. In fact, from True Torah Jews Org site (read the whole thing):
“He answers that the Jewish Oaths were imposed on the roots of the Jewish souls in Heaven…At this point, the Avnei Nezer is bothered: …how could there be a punishment for violating them? He answers that “I will permit your flesh as the gazelles and deer of the field” is not to be understood as a direct punishment, but as a cutting off of Hashem’s protection that comes as a result of the sin…Hashem’s providence and supervision is removed from the body, and the body is left as ownerless as the wild animals, which have no soul.”Clearly, it would be devastating to violate the oaths, even according to the Avnei Nezer and it is very dishonest to imply otherwise – as the Zionists idolaters do.”
So, yes; you are left with, at most, an academic question.
BUT zionists aren’t WORRIED about kurais or mass death. They think it is honorable for jewish boys to die en masse for their political state. Thats how they worship their god. That’s what their dati leumi priests teach them.
you willfully ignore the CLEAR FACT that AVNE NEZER writes that the shavu’ot are NOT LEHALACHA and THEREFORE ARE OMITTED BY ALL POSKIM
so you are left with a dispute .
according to satmar rav they are halacha , according to avne nezer they are not halacha
according to avne nezer they are merely A SIMAN for the persons connection to HKBH and his neshama
when will you acknowledge this oh so clear DISPUTE …..
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satmar rav takes issue with avne nezer’s pshat in the gemara in his vayoel moshe mentioning him by name
but I have not found that he directly addresses the issue of the gaping hole in all halachik codifiers which avne nezer clearly raises .
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.@yankel-berel
“but I have not found that he directly addresses the issue of the gaping hole in all halachik codifiers which avne nezer clearly raises .”lol. you must be either joking or have zero integrity. Satmar Rebbe actually wrote a whole book about this question called “Vayoel Moshe” and that includes a specific “mamar shalosh shevios” where he ask and strengthens this question from multiple angles, He specifically brings the avnei nezer’s statement that the shevios are “not l’haluche” and the Satmar Rebbe double down and emphasis the point the Avnei Nezer is making. The Satmar Rebbes kasha on Avnei Nezer was NOT about the clear point of “lo l’haluche”, rather his kasha on the Avnei Nezer was in how he understood Rashi (a kasha he is metaretz to matzdik the Avnei Nezer).
This isn’t even hard to find, as Vayoel Moshe has long been printed with an index of sources. “Avnei” starts with an “Aleph”.
So, @yankel-berel, are you indeed joking or do you simply have no integrity?
“BUT zionists aren’t WORRIED about kurais or mass death. They think it is honorable for jewish boys to die en masse for their political state. Thats how they worship their god. That’s what their dati leumi priests teach them.”
This is pure slander and you know it.
Stop calling RZ Rabbonim by terms such as “priests”.
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