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  • #589448

    goody613
    Member

    Any suggestions?? Lately I can’t concentrate on my tefillos

    #656414

    an open book
    Participant

    take a minute or 2 before u start to clear your mind & focus on what you’re about to do

    #656415

    goody613
    Member

    Thanx i’ve tried that it works but towards the end my mind starts wandering

    #656416

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    goody: i used to fall asleep during davening, but then i tried concentrating on the words more, and B”H it has been working for me.$

    #656417

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    there’s a sefer ”pathway to prayer” that might help ya!!!!

    #656418

    amichai
    Participant

    start with berachos. try to really understand the meaning. use a siduur with eng. explanation if need be. stick with concentrating on that for a week and move on slowly. do not rush it. slowly we will have an appreciation for the tefillos. maybe someone can start a thread on understanding tefillos better. and when you do daven, send up a tefilla that hashem will help you. hatzlocha.

    #656419

    Joseph
    Participant

    goodyear613, Daven as much davening as you can concentrate on, with kavana.

    #656420

    flatbush27
    Member

    i once heard this. for the first 5 minutes dont look out of your siddur. if someone drops something or whatever distraction dont look up. do the 5 minutes for a week. then the next week do 10. every week add on another 5. it could even be less depending on the person, but if you try to do it all at once it wont work.dont do 5 the first day and 10 the next day. hatzlocha

    #656421

    APushetaYid
    Participant

    goody613: Try this i once heared a shiur.. and the speaker spoke about tefillah he said there are times that a person doesn’t have patience to daven… or can’t concentrate.. a person should never give up! bec. these are just eras.. nisoyins.. he gave a good idea… before davening tell yourself… ok today i will have kevuna by oshrie… take one kapital at a time. and then youll see after a while it will get better.. also of course ask hashem to help u concentrate!!!! thats the first step ! Good Luck!! and i wish u the best! to be close to hashem is JUST GREAT!!!!!!!!!

    #656422

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    there is a famous sign that says the following:

    Good morning, this is Hashem. I will be handling all your problems today. I will not need your help. So, relax and have a great day.

    If you think of this before davening (and of course- Da Lifnei Mee Atoh Omeid), you will have a good starting point of how you want to daven. It sets the right perspective. Just unburden yourself, ask for anything you might need, thank Hashem in the correct sections of davening for all the good He does for us etc.

    #656423

    moish01
    Member

    hey thanks for bringing this up. i really wanted to daven since the beginning of last week. i just can’t bring myself to. i dunno why but i feel like i haven’t davened in a long while. (maybe because i didn’t? that was a stupid why to phrase that sentence but i can’t think of a better way.)

    #656424

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    hope you read all the other tips… slow but steady wins the race

    #656425

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    ps- I am so happy (no expectations) that you miss davening/want to start again. Hatzlocho

    pps- when inspiration strikes, you must act upon it right away, do an action that directly correlates with the inspiration- otherwise you lose it and it fades away

    #656426

    moish01
    Member

    it’s not the actual davening. it’s picking up the siddur. (hey we should bring up the “and moish” thread. haha)

    and i never “quit” davening.

    #656427

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    you never quit davening cuz even when you’re saying “oh please g-d, let me survive this tackle”, you are davening

    #656428

    moish01
    Member

    haha. i guess i do put god in my life more than many other people.

    #656429

    an open book
    Participant

    🙂 moish01

    #656430

    moish01
    Member

    hey it even works sometimes 😉

    #656431

    an open book
    Participant

    does that mean ppl post lessons & things on here? cuz that would be great! its not so easy for me to get ahold of jewish books, even like that

    #656432

    goody613
    Member

    I just started learning Rav shamshon Pincus’s sefer on the siddur and it is very interestig and inspiring

    #656433

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    i’m proud of someone………!!!!!!!!

    #656434

    David S.
    Member

    This is a very interesting topic. Thanks for bringing this up. What I do is:Whenever you get off track during davening, concentrate on the letters and words in the siddur and their meaning, just focus in on them. that always works for me.

    Thanks, David

    #656435

    an open book
    Participant

    moish01: that reminds me of my friend, who was all suprised when they understood the material the 1 time that they listened in class 😉

    #656436

    moish01
    Member

    oh i meant in football. i don’t usually get crushed. but i guess there had to be one time god said ‘no’

    #656437

    an open book
    Participant

    moish01: i know, it just reminded me of that. but it was for a good reason, rite? u came here! (or were u already a member?)

    #656439

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    very nice! I like your meforesh

    #656440

    an open book
    Participant

    thank you that was nice!

    #656441

    goody613
    Member

    thanx ames it’s a great book goes through basically every word of davening

    #656442

    kapusta
    Participant

    I dont know if this is a tip, but its very interesting

    when it says in shmoneh esrai baraich alenu or refuainu or any other bracha its not just a request for parnassa or for health but its also to help us realize what Hashem is capable of doing, giving us parnassa and healing us is nothing for Him.

    #656443

    torahtziva
    Member

    goody613: daven in a quiet shul where there is no talking.

    #656444

    torahtziva
    Member

    finger on the place.

    #656445

    goody613
    Member

    in the back of pathway to prayer he has 50 suggestions mostly know what your saying

    #656446

    goody613
    Member

    an interesting one was that whenever you say something meaning You (irCHA, rahamecha) you should emphasize it so you’ll realize youre talking to Hashem

    #656447

    an open book
    Participant

    ?

    are you giving tips to yourself now???

    #656448

    kapusta
    Participant

    AOB lol but like ames said before this thread will (hopefully) be used as a davening support group so it was for all of us also 🙂

    #656451

    kapusta
    Participant

    ames no words for you! How was lunch? 🙂

    #656452

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moish- i forget which topic started the ‘modeh ani’ kaballah… but I wanted to check and see how it’s going. or- Is it still goin? please update me on the status. I appreciate it 🙂

    #656453

    moish01
    Member

    uhhh… it was ok for a week or so… i don’t remember if i’ve been saying it – could be i am and i just don’t realize it… that’s not good is it?? wow i can’t believe i forgot about it

    #656454

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    no prob- whatever the case, now you’re aware of it again. Needing reminders are the norm… the key is to keep at that one thing. Don’t jump around starting a million different things all in one week. None of it will stick. Whatever your mood- stick to this one thing… STAY FOCUSED, TAKE CONTROL. Hatzlocha!!

    #656455

    moish01
    Member

    well if it DID become routine already i’m gonna be so disgusted at myself. that make me no better than all the rest of the fakers of the world.

    #656456

    torahtziva
    Member

    don’t talk during chazaros hashatz

    #656459

    moish01
    Member

    oh don’t worry, torahtziva. i NEVER do. (i think the last time i was in shul was on yom kippur and no one talks on yom kippur so i’m safe)

    #656460

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moish- you’re not being a faker!! You are first creating good habits. Step One.

    whew- sorry bout the yelling 😉

    gotta run soon- will be around for another few minutes

    #656461

    moish01
    Member

    oh i don’t know if i really work so quickly – i told you i can’t remember saying it but that it might be because i’ve been saying it and got used to it.

    #656462

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Moish, a faker is one who pretends to do something l’shem shamayim and then lords it over others. Clearly, that is not you.

    #656463

    moish01
    Member

    not true. i’m sure some of those fakers are so good at it that they have themselves fooled too. you don’t know the type? i think i do.

    #656464

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Moish, they may have fooled themselves, but it doesnt mean they are doing it l’shaim shamayim. They are still doing it to lord it over others. Just because they fooled themselves, doesnt mean they fool the rest of us…

    #656465

    moish01
    Member

    oh really? and who exactly do you think is gonna get into the “best” yeshiva after high school? and gonna marry into the “best” family? of course they fool the whole world.

    hey maybe if they are such good fakers then it really becomes real? i’m nauseous just thinking about it.

    #656466

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Moish, the fakers marry the fakers (you know the “best”). Come on, would you really want to marry the kind of girl that wants to marry a faker guy? You need a real girl – someone who is a person, NOT a faker. Their life is all facade…although sometimes I envy the simplicity of not having to think…

    #656467

    moish01
    Member

    well i’ll be honest, i haven’t given a single thought to marriage. i’m not even going there. i just meant in general. guess what? i think most people are fakers. so even if i don’t get stuck with one – who’s gonna guarantee that my kids won’t be? ugh i’ll disown them.

    i think the only reason MY family isn’t living in a fantastical cocoon is because they have to deal with ME.

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