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Nobody answered yet how long they ate matza after coming out of mitzraim. Clue: until the mon fell. How long was that? Anybody?
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New riddle: When was the first time that klal yisroel kept shabbos en masse?
shticky guy- its a gemara in kidushin,first 14 days if im not mistaken and it tasted like mon
Morah Reyna: amar oyaiv erdof asig achalaik (Az Yashir) – I heard this one before.
Shticky: mon fell on 16 Iyor, so they ate matza from 15 Nison to 16 Iyor.
This isn’t a riddle, but rather knowledge. There seem to be two opinions as to the identity of the boy that Elisha brought back to life (the son of the Isha HaShunamis). Any idea who it could be? Hint: either one is a novi.
Name a person with the same name as a city in Eretz Yisroel.
Any answer on the 1st time klal yisroel kept shabbos en masse?
OK Here’s the answer:
The first time they kept ??? en masse (as brought down in the ??????) was in ????? , when ??? asked ???? for a day off each week for the Yidden so that they would be more productive and be able to work better, and when ???? agreed they got ??? off.
The first time they kept ??? en masse (as brought down in the ??????) was in ????? , when ??? asked ???? for a day off each week for the Yidden so that they would be more productive and be able to work better, and when ???? agreed they got ??? off.
That may have been the first time they stopped working for a day en masse, but they certainly didn’t keep the halachos of Shabbos en masse. Shabbos, as you are well aware, is not merely the ceasing of labor. There’s no reason to expect that absent a specific command to do so (which did not exist) that no one wrote a single word, or engaged in borer or even cooked a meal.
The Wolf
“That may have been the first time they stopped working for a day en masse, but they certainly didn’t keep the halachos of Shabbos en masse. Shabbos, as you are well aware, is not merely the ceasing of labor. There’s no reason to expect that absent a specific command to do so (which did not exist) that no one wrote a single word, or engaged in borer or even cooked a meal.”
If the midrash sez they kept shabbas, then tehy kept shabbas. Who do you think you are to argue against a midrash?
In the beginning of ?????? ???? ????? it says ????? ???? ??? ??? that Hashem retrospectively brought forward the gift of ???. The ?????? explain this to mean that Moshe arranged with Paraoh to davka be given shabbos off, even before ???, in spite of the fact that a lot of ????? had yet to be given.
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The answer to the mon is from rashi in shmos 16:1 who says on the pasuk that they arrived in midbar sin on 15th of the second month: that this stop in the desert was because the food that they had brought with them from mitzraim ended and they now needed mon, which teaches us that they ate remains of the dough for 61 meals.
And the Ramban says they now complained of lack of food, and it was a miracle that they were all fed on relatively small amounts of food for so long.
In the beginning of ?????? ???? ????? it says ????? ???? ??? ??? that Hashem retrospectively brought forward the gift of ???. The ?????? explain this to mean that Moshe arranged with Paraoh to davka be given shabbos off, even before ???, in spite of the fact that a lot of ????? had yet to be given.
I wasn’t disagreeing with that point. But simply taking a day off from work is not keeping Shabbos. Keeping Shabbos means refraining from the 39 melachos. There is no reason to say that that’s what they did in Egypt before the Halachos of Shabbos were given. So yes, they may have taken the day off from work, but they might have still written things, engaged in borer, carried in and out of their homes and so on. They may have had the day of Shabbos off from their toils, but I don’t think you can say that “kept Shabbos.”
The Wolf
The Wolf
but I dont think you can say that “kept shabbos”.
You’re 100% correct. I cant say that that’s called keeping shabbos. But the meforshim can and do. Thats how they explain the piyut.
And that remains true no matter how many times you put your name at the end of your post 🙂 lol
You’re 100% correct. I cant say that that’s called keeping shabbos. But the meforshim can and do. Thats how they explain the piyut.
So, you’re saying then that they kept Shabbos in Mitzrayim, with all the Halachos? If so, then what was given at Marah?
And that remains true no matter how many times you put your name at the end of your post 🙂 lol
That’s only because I’m a poor editor. I go back and edit my post and mistakenly sign my name again.
The Wolf
No they werent given ALL the halachos but the basic principle of resting. Dont forget, the 39 melachos of shabbos are learnt out from the mileches hamishkon which at that time had yet to be built (though it wasnt built by moroh either, I hear you say).
Shticky Guy
Shticky Guy
Shticky Guy
(I love editing my posts).
“So, you’re saying then that they kept Shabbos in Mitzrayim, with all the Halachos? If so, then what was given at Marah?”
Yur still arguing on a midrash? Do you think you know what happened in mitzrayim better than chazal?
i know a Rav that makes up torah riddles for him family all the time—and they are really hard, from what i hear
So why dont you try to get hold of them and post them here, then I’ll be a fan of fan of pd
No they werent given ALL the halachos but the basic principle of resting.
OK, so we agree then. We’re just quibbling over the meaning of the words “keep Shabbos.”
The Wolf
Name a person with the same name as a city in Eretz Yisroel.
Ariel.
the Shunamite’s son was Ido Hanavi (her sister was Avishag Hashunamis)
How many times in last week’s sedra (shelach lecha) does it mention the word Meraglim?
emlf: isn’t one explanation Yona?
Shticky Guy – the answer is none.
Here’s a few:
Who in tanach had the same name as her sister-in-law?
Give 3 examples of men in tanach employed by their shver to be?
Who was ‘the upside down horn’?
otb- for your second riddle heres 2 ppl so far- Moshe and Yaakov
on the ball- Yaakov, Moshe, and Dovid
Besides for Aharon – who else was a brother of Moshe Rabenu.
We all know the phrase
??? ???? ????
in Megilas Esther.
But where does say
??? ???? ????
When is better to davka wash hands without a cup after using the bathroom?
5 two letter words in a row: ki yad al keis kah
5 words starting with alef in a row: omar oyeiv erdof asig achalek (shalal…) from oz yashir
men employed by their shver: yaakov/lavan, moshe/yisro
there’s a great book called crack it! with an orange cover that has alot of these torah riddles
Morah Reyna – five words with the same letter? That’s in Az Yashir., in Parshas Beshalach
-Amar- Oyev -Erdof -Asig -Achalek Shallal
On The ball –
Yaakov employed by Lavan as a shepherd (Rachel, Leah)
Moshe employed by Yisro to tend his flock Shemos 3:1 (Tziporah)
David Hamelech Employed by Shaul Hamelech as a musician and a Warrior Shmuel Alef, 18:20(Michal)
So, employed by a shver-to-be we have so far Yaakov, Moshe and Dovid. I can think of one more – anyone?
Here’s a real riddle:
Take away one letter from my new name and you have my king’s name.
Who am I?
on the ball- was the other one Yosef?
otb- is it Yosef? Cuz was worked for potifar and he ended up marriying asnas.
Not sure cuz he wasn’t employed exactly he was a slave
just got on…kudos to everyone for posting these riddles 🙂
??????? (Yirm. 37:3,13)
(Nechemya 3:30, 13:13)
(Ezra 10:39)
yes I was thinking of Yosef
(Bamidbar 15:11) ??? ???? ????
Am Yisrael Chai – what do you mean by those references in Yimiyahu, Ezra and Nechemiah?
otb, btw it’s better to use koach gavra when washing w/o a cup by manually turning the faucet on & off each time.
This is to be done when the cup is ng (a hole, slanted, etc.)
Avigail (w/o yud is Dovid’s sister,w/ yud is Dovid’s wife)
AYC – Re sisters in law – correct.
Re – the washing hands riddle; I was thinking of a time when it’s better to use no keli than a perfectly kosher keli.
if it’s tamei l’mais, e.g.?
perfectly kosher and tahor
the name Shelemiya is in those references; remove the yud to get Shlomo
OTB, when you will eat bread immediately afterwards, according to the opinion that you should not be mafsik with Asher Yatzar between the bracha Al Netilas Yadayim and eating.
Sorry AYS, Shelemiya wasn’t a new name was it? Also I meant a contemporary king.
Ravshalom – thats’s right.
That is – according to some shitos, I hasten to add
???? & ???? were the new names for ????? & ????? (Divrei Hayamim aleph 4:22) & ??? ??
ADD a letter to get King Yehoash! (not what u r looking for,I know!)
So – nobody knows who was Moshe Rabenu’s brother besides for Aharon? It’s not a trick question. He was his real brother.
Another riddle:
My brother’s name is four words but mine is only two.
Who am I?
????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ????, ??????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????, ??? ???? ??????? ?? ??? (?????? ????? ??,??)
otb- can be the shevatim Dan or Gad (in hebrew) and Yosef
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