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    BisBoy
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    Can someone please explain to me WHY do so many people go to Uman? What is to see there?

    #1571811

    WolfishMusings
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    Can someone please explain to me WHY do so many people go to Uman? What is to see there?

    The Kever of R’ Nachman of Breslov.

    The Wolf (who has never been to Uman and has no intention of ever going).

    #1571823

    reform rabbi
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    One word – R’ Nachman

    Many people consider R’ Nachman their guide in life. They gather together, as R’ Nachman asked, at R’ Nachman’s place for Rosh Hashanah. The gathering, where you meet like minded fellows, gives you insight and understanding of life andavodas Hashem that you can’t get otherwise.

    #1571869

    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Don’t get sucked in. I think this is just a response to the Satmar kever thread. Either that or just very coincidental timing.

    #1571866

    BaltimoreMaven
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    Rebbe Nachman spent the last five months of his life in Uman, and specifically requested to be buried here. As believed by the Breslov Hassidim, before his death he solemnly promised to intercede on behalf of anyone who would come to pray on his grave on Rosh Hashana, “be he the worst of sinners”; thus, a pilgrimage to this grave provides the best chance of getting unscathed through the stern judgement which, according to Jewish faith, God passes on everybody on Yom Kippur

    #1571864

    Chaver
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    To get closer to Hashem!

    #1571842

    Takes2-2tango
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    Uman y’hah shmah rabah mevoorach etc.

    #1571966

    Takes2-2tango
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    ChaverParticipant
    To get closer to Hashem!
    —_————————
    Just curious what people did to get closer to hashem before uman?
    Or maybe they didnt untill uman came along.

    #1572121

    yytz
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    About 40,000 go each year. Rebbe Nachman taught his followers it was very important to visit his grave on Rosh HaShana. Some Breslov chassidim go every year, while others might go once in a lifetime.

    The most distinctive teachings of Breslov chassidus are the importance to praying to Hashem in one’s own words (hitbodedut) and going to Uman. (There’s a lot more, too, including a special emphasis on studying the Shulchan Aruch each day, “it is a great mitzvah to be happy always,” etc.)

    Many BTs are attracted to Breslov teachings, and so many people (especially Israelis) who are on the path to becoming frum go to Uman, and it can be an important spiritual experience for them, which encourages them. There are also many frum non-Breslovers who go–Chabad, dati leumi, Yeshivish, etc.–because they have some interest in Breslov chassidus.

    #1572332

    Avi K
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    Wolf, the Kotzker said that the world is a mashal and the nimshal is money. The Ukrainians profit. Tour operators profit. Airlines profit. A few years ago some breslovers wanted to reinter Rabbi Nachman in EY, which he certainly would have wanted. The Ukrainian government adamantly refused. There was a similar promo about Rabbi Elimelech’s grave and within EY there is Amuka (Yonatan ben Uziel’s grave).

    Takes, they learned Torah. They made aliya.

    #1572554

    1
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    There’s more spirituality in yerushalayim than in uman.

    #1573035

    yytz
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    Avi K: The vast majority of Breslov chassidim were opposed to moving the kever to Israel. It’s far from clear Rebbe Nachman would have approved of such a move. He chose to move to Uman before his death for a specific reason — because it was near the graves of the Chmielnicki pogram victims, and he wanted to be buried near them.

    Rebbe Nachman explicitly taught that the gravesites of tzaddikim literally have the kedushah of E”Y. So it’s clear he would be in favor of people visiting Uman from Israel–at least his chassidim.

    However, unlike most other Chassidic rebbes Rebbe Nachman placed a great emphasis on the importance of visiting, and living in, Israel. (Rebbe Nachman taught that we should all yearn for visiting Israel even if we can’t, and Reb Nosson wrote many prayers on this theme–in Likutei Tefilos, which Rav Kook was known to often have with him.) For that reason, the vast majority of Breslovers live in Israel. Well-known Breslover rabbis, like Rabbi Lazer Brody and Rav Shalom Arush, are always trying to convince people to make aliyah.

    #1573291

    Avi K
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    Yytz, if the grave has the kedusha of EY why not live there already? Besides, they are giving parnassa to a people who antisemitic cruelty even shocked the SS ym”s. They even have a city call Chmielnitzky and a statue of him ym”s in the center of Kiev. Moreover, as Rav Kook pointed out, EY has the greatest tzaddikim of all time – the Avot and Emahot. According to RN’s sheeta that is at least double kedusha. BTW, both
    Rav Ovadia and Rav Mazuz blasted them for going on Rosh HaShana and leaving their families.

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