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    Curiosity
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    We fall complacent to all rational fears and obvious warning signs. Whether it is regarding terror or tyranny, plague or war, we seem to go about our day-to-day existence without preparing for what is so obviously present around the next bend. We, as a people, should know better than all others to always be vigilant and not allow the complacency of younger, less experienced nations infect our mindset, like we always do. At the foot of the Mountain, we prostrated to a golden calf, and yet, the Divine Wrath did not burn against the audacious treason and public immorality. No! It was for being stiff-necked for which we were about to be annihilated (Sh. 32:9).

    #1090767

    goofus
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    Yup, the fire in Washington State is terrible.

    #1090768

    akuperma
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    If you were better read in history, both the the Jews and the goyim, you would realize that in the world is a lot less amoral, less wicked, less perverse, than it ever was before. Not to mention that the standards of living even of the poorest are well above what they were in the past. You should stop worrying yourself into a frenzy. Be happy. Do Mitsvos.

    P.S. You seem to believe that learning Torah is done by Yidden because HaShem ordered to, even though we hate it. We like learning.It’s fun. Why do you think people look for heterim to learn during the times it is prohibited, or debate whether one can learn in shul during davening. Try it some time.

    #1090769

    👑RebYidd23
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    The world may be whatever it is morally, but a thousand years ago there were no nuclear weapons.

    #1090770

    Curiosity
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    edited since we are not allowing a repeat of some recent threads

    Be happy. Do Mitsvos.

    At least we agree on two things.

    P.S. You seem to believe that learning Torah is done by Yidden because HaShem ordered to, even though we hate it. We like learning.It’s fun. Why do you think people look for heterim to learn during the times it is prohibited, or debate whether one can learn in shul during davening. Try it some time.

    Don’t know what this has to do with my comment.

    #1090772

    Sam2
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    Curiosity: Maybe it shows the world is in decline, but the world as a whole is pretty close to the moral peak in recorded history, even if it may currently be on the way back down.

    #1090774

    Curiosity
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    Sam2, according to Chazal the last straw for the dor hamabul was the same legalization and shtar writing for forbidden relationships that we are seeing now. This is only the second time in history that this is happening en masse. The first time, God destroyed the world.

    Chazal also say that at the end of days “pnei hador kipnei hakelev.” Last week one of the leading presidential candidates was ripping on Democratic leaders for “leading from behind” and swaying with the wind of public opinion, which is the pashut interpretation of this chazal, who lived in a time of monarchs and tyrannical rule, where one could get hanged, or worse, for dissenting against their rulers.

    #1090775

    BarryLS1
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    Curiosity: you’re 100% correct. The world is imploding. Pre-Moshiach Nevuos are happening in front of our eyes. Jews are way too complacent because they don’t want to see what is happening or they would actually have to take steps to deal with it.

    It’s human nature. Things happen in increments and people just adjust accordingly. Eizeh hu chochom, hu roeh es ha’nolad.

    #1090776

    👑RebYidd23
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    We all see it, but it’s been many years in the making.

    #1090777

    147
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    We must WAKE UP The fireworks outside celebrating America’s tragic 239th birthday with freedom of immorality, are keeping me awake.

    #1090778

    BarryLS1
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    RebYidd23: For those that actually see it and do nothing is far worse. Most people function in their own world.

    #1090779

    👑RebYidd23
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    What do you expect them to do? They have been trying their best all along.

    #1090780

    Little Froggie
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    I’m UP now.

    Now what?

    #1090781

    Naftush-2
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    I propose a psak: Anyone who says “Jews wake up!” must explain what the awakening should be composed of. Make tshuva? We beseech Hashem for the ability three times a day. Reverse the new mabul-on-the-way? Please explain how. Etc.

    Agav, Naftush-2 is really Naftush-1; I floundered around for my password until the system gave up, so I started over.

    #1090782

    BarryLS1
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    The thing to do now is to make Aliyah and help make Israel the Country it’s supposed to be and show Hashem how much we want the Geulah. Sitting still and living with Eisav just doesn’t do that.

    #1090783

    Joseph
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    Living amongs Yishmaelim isn’t better than among Eisav. The State of Israel is a pagan State that brings much spiritual danger to its Jewish inhabitants. And the physical threat from the Islamists is greater than the physical threat of the Church outside the State.

    #1090784

    zahavasdad
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    I would rather live in a place that allows such things, than a place that has a yearly pogrom or a place where every year on easter the Rabbi is required to bend over and get kicked in the rear by the local Priest (This was done in the Roman Ghetto to show the jews who was in charge)

    #1090785

    flatbusher
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    Curiosity said: “P.S. You seem to believe that learning Torah is done by Yidden because HaShem ordered to, even though we hate it. We like learning.It’s fun. Why do you think people look for heterim to learn during the times it is prohibited, or debate whether one can learn in shul during davening. Try it some time.”

    I don’t know how true this is. I wouldn’t say we hate but many a boys do not like to learn, either because they find it too difficult to master or they are just not interested. So I think it is safe to say you can speak for yourself, but I don’t know how many would agree with your premise that learning is fun. It’s a chiyuv and you need to do it, fun or not.

    #1090786

    Joseph
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    Actually, it was akuperman who said that, not Curiosity. But his point was that, ideally, it should be enjoyable. And it is for many and very likely most.

    #1090788

    Shloimydr
    Member

    perhaps this will assist us all

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-haven%e2%80%99t-the-gedolei-hador-leaders-of-klal-yisroel-made-a-zman-teshuva-with

    may teshuva start immediately as a nation towards the bringing of mashiach

    #1090789

    Sam2
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    Joseph: Israel is far from a pagan State. It might not be Al Pi Torah, but that is a harsh thing to say.

    #1090790

    sm29
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    What helps to wake up and improve ourselves is for each of us to figure out what one needs to work on, and then make a continuous effort to do so. If we’re not sure, then we should ask Hashem to help us figure it out. Whether it’s bein Makom, or bein chaveiro, we need to do both. Rabbi Lipschutz mentions it beautifully in an article on Parshas Balak, about our mission to remain the Holy people that we are meant to be. Of course, we all slip, but we can still stand back up.

    #1090792

    Shloimydr
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    sm29

    the problem is NOBODY is ready to wake up & admit EVEN TO THEMSELVES that they have a issue, everyone thinks their way of life is perfect sinless & their children are perfect with no issues to help them improve & grow

    nobody can help themselves until they admit that they have an issue & 80% of solving an issue is first admitting to the problem a person has. its only the final 20% that is the issue itself.

    im hoping people will finally wakeup & face reality so they wont have so many issues, cause one a person sees what s/he needs to work on every issue can be solved one at a time.

    May hashem be with you as you try to improve yourself & fix all issues in your life

    #1090793

    Curiosity
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    Shloimydr, Amen.

    Rabbi Gavriel Sassoon gave a powerful speech on 17 tammuz in which he stressed that we must submit ourselves to the ratzon Hashem. YWN had pinned a link to it in the main page. I highly recommend listening to it. It will send a chill up your spine if you listen.

    #1090794

    golfer
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    Thank you shloimdr. V’chain le’mar.

    And may I request that you remember to capitalize words referencing your Creator.

    #1090795

    golfer
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    147, you are quite the globetrotter.

    You post from Australia.

    You post from Eretz Yisrael.

    Now you’re listening to July 4th fireworks!

    #1090796

    sm29
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    Shlomidr, you have a good point. People don’t want to introspect. Either too busy, or don’t want to admit. That’s why we have days for introspection like Elul, to remind us. This reminds me of a funny motivational video where an actor was screaming at people to “Just do it”, and “make your dreams come true”

    Things might be discouraging, but we can and should be the holy people we are meant to be. And if we fall, don’t despair, we can still go forward

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