October 14, 2009 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #590577
If you read in the General News section of YWN, you will have found out that Tootsie Roll and Gatorade will becoming getting a Hecsher and will be Kosher. I am completely enjoying my Jelly Belly products so much(especially, the cinnamon ones!! :)) I also enjoyed Oreos as well until I started keeping Chalav Yisrael.
So my question to the respected members of the CR is this, what food product/s would you like to see become kosher? Treif foods not included. Just list products where it would be possible to obtain a hechser.
I for one would love to see Wrigleys gum get a Hecsher, especially Big Red, a cinnamon flavored gum.October 14, 2009 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #895313
I also enjoyed Oreos as well until I started keeping Chalav Yisrael.
I bet the tootsie rolls (which I love) are going to be dairy.October 14, 2009 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #895314
Pork? No No, Just joking lol
But seriously, More organic and healthy products. There aren’t that many kosher ones out there, and I find that very sad.October 14, 2009 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #895315
I sustain myself on bread (with some salt) and coffee, and both have reliable hechsherim. I’m not on the madreiga yet of bread and water, but when I get there, I hear that in many places the water already has a good hechsher.October 14, 2009 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #895316
Dont forget your filter.October 14, 2009 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #895317
hersheys makes this cookies n cream chocolate which is chalav stam. someone once showed me a chalav yisrael version – anyone know what company it is? when i started keeping chalav yisrael, these chocolate was my biggest nisayon lolOctober 14, 2009 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #895318
Yeah, I also have a funny feeling the tootsie rolls will be dairy 🙁October 14, 2009 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #895319
Some hold you can eat candy that is not CY, if you can ascertain that it was made only with powdered milk. You’d have to accept this shita, and contact the Kashrus agency. Apparently this is pretty common with chocolate candies.October 14, 2009 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #895320
squeak, from your diet you must be in the Turkish equivalent of Federal Koilel. What are you guys learning there?
Hmmm…if I were still living in the US this Gatorade would be good news for me (if it is sugar free which IIRC Powerade isn’t). Otherwise, I would like to see kosher supervision on commonly available brands of chewing gum and of course I would like to see pas yisroel Dutch style hash brownies.October 14, 2009 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #895321
Considering that condensed milk is one of the ingredients in Tootsie Rolls, I’d say the probability of it being dairy is 1.
The WolfOctober 14, 2009 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #895322October 14, 2009 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #895323
According to the only accepted source on such matters, the Admou’r meCreedmoor, milk is fleishig because it comes from a cow. He must base his psak on earlier work by the Rabbanei Chelm or, more likely, on potential income for his new “KKK” (Kreedmoor Kosher Kartel) hechsher which will become quite a lucrative venture by labeling milk products as fleishig.October 14, 2009 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #895324
Milk from a geshuchten cow might be fleishig. Maybe you missed that word in his tshiva.October 14, 2009 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #895325
ooh, forgot about those!!October 14, 2009 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #895326
Nope, the Admou”r holds all milk is fleishig and that only cheese aged six months or more from cows aged six years or more is milchig.
Since we don’t know the age of any cow being milked, and the Admou”r’s famous Cholov Yisroel Funny Farm has all the cows registered as 65 or over so Medicare pays for the vet bills, all KKK certified cheese will use only Funny Farm cows and therefore be fleishig.
Update. He just told me that white chicken and turkey meat will be considered milchig since it is the same color as sour cream which he does hold to be milchig.October 14, 2009 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #895327
This is funny! You guys live in the kosher food capital of the world! Try surviving in a city with 6 kosher restaurants, and going to the supermarket not even knowing what’s kosher because most products don’t have the hechsher on the label. You have to check a list that’s always changing the status of its products, oh and whenever we see an American product with a hechsher (in costco or wal mart) we buy it even if we don’t need it.
But why am I complaining? Don’t worry you get used to it, and I guess its not that bad!;)October 14, 2009 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #895328
I live in a place where there are two kosher restaurants, and the milchig one suffers from a lack of supplies.
We have a tiny kosher store, an overpriced supermarket that carries some gourmet items that happen to have hechsherim but are useless luxuries, but we do have shechita and plenty of fish available.October 14, 2009 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #895329
mybat – oi vey! 6 kosher restaurants? No pizza and no ice cream? Boy, how the Yidden suffered!
Breaking news, kids. 6 kosher restaurants would have been a dream where I grew up (and when). Also, printing kosher symbols on labels was unheard even up to only a few years ago in certain countries. “Checking the ingredients” was how it was done, or by buying off a list distributed by the Rabbinate. Of course, ingredients were so much more straightforward in those days… you couldn’t imagine doing such a thing now if you keep kosher.October 14, 2009 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #895330
Look into Oreos. I just heard from somebody who is strict with chalav yisrael that they are not dairy, but dairy equipment.October 14, 2009 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #895331
I heard the same but until it’s more than a rumor, I can’t eat them.
Anyone have the source?
By the way, Jewess please send me an email at: email@example.comOctober 14, 2009 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #895332
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A600KiloBear, PowerAde also comes in a sugar-free version, PowerAde Zero; so does Gatorade.October 14, 2009 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #895333
Really squeak?!600 how do you do it? You probably make everything from scratch!
Wow and I was complaining!
But no good pizza here.:(
Whenever we go to the states our first stop is the pizza store!October 14, 2009 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #895334
No Mod 80, don’t hold by the Shtia of powdered milk.
Since I found some pretty good Heimishe versions of “Oreos” I don’t really miss them much. Now if I could find a chalav yisrael substitute for the Hershey’s Hot cocoa Mixes, that would be wonderful.October 14, 2009 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #895335
The ingredients for different Oreo products can be found on the Nabisco web site:
The ingredients won’t tell you if it’s kosher or not, but they will tell you if there is anything blatantly dairy in the product.
The WolfOctober 14, 2009 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #895336
Nothing dairy noted in the package ingredients list. Still need a reliable source for the actual lack of dairy ingredients of course.October 14, 2009 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #895337
I’d like to see a return to non-glatt meat being acceptable. It would bring down the cost of keeping kosher by increasing the supply of available kosher meat. Nikur hagid would also be nice for the same reason; that and for the filet mignon we would be able to enjoy in this Country.October 14, 2009 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #895338
Thanks. PowerAde Zero was not available when I most recently lived in the US (2005-7). Certainly not available where I am.
Yes, I make much from scratch, usually using the microwave because I am pressed for time. Most of the packaged kosher goods here, local or imported, are either not nutritious (candy and cookie items), overpriced, or usually both. Tehina is a rare find since the financial crisis made it too expensive in the local currency.October 14, 2009 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #895339
I have heard, not sure where, that plain Oreos are not dairy, but DE. The OU no longer marks things DE and labels all DE items as Dairy.October 14, 2009 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #895340
Also, IIRC, the shittah for powdered milk is from the Chazon Ish.October 14, 2009 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #895341
The OU never marks DE only the OK and maybe others.October 14, 2009 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #895342
where I live I wish there where more kosher restaurants,October 14, 2009 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #895343
I would like to See video surveillance by normal dairy farms so I can drink chalav yisroel milk which won’t curdle my stomach.October 14, 2009 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #895344
Thanks for the link Wolf, I don’t see any dairy ingredients listed on the Oreos ingredients listing. I think I may look into this. If its just Dairy equipment, then I don’t have a problem eating Oreos again!!October 14, 2009 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #895345
I would like to See video surveillance by normal dairy farms so I can drink chalav yisroel milk which won’t curdle my stomach.
Have you tried the new Ahava products? Not sure what they are called or even if the new owners have started production yet. There was a technical hitch recently that may not have been entirely resolved and I have no idea what is going on in the US anyway.October 14, 2009 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm #895346
In regards to Oreos –
A friend of mine called the OU and I called someone in the CRC (Chicago) and they both said that Oreos Should be treated as Parve but Dairy Equipment. The OU for years now doesn’t use the DE label and marks anything DE as D for a number of practical reasons. Oreoes have no dairy whatsoever but some plants use Dairy Equiptment.
I also called Nabisco and asked them about Oreos in regards to a dairy allergy and the lady told me that they are absolutely fine. She said that I should check by the ingredients where it has allergy information, it would say dairy under allergy information if there was any allergy concerns. She said however, I should check every bag I buy, because if a certain plant needs to use dairy – they would put it on the label. I asked about airborne particles and she said there is nothing to worry about. She said that ANY Nabisco product that has any amounts of dairy will always say dairy by allergy information. So the I said but why does it have a D by the Kosher symbol? So she said that it’s because some places use equipment that also processes dairy and some religious groups don’t eat food if it was processed on the same equipment as dairy stuff.
Additionally I know two people who have extremely severe dairy allergies and break out by even the slightest amounts of dairy – well beyond botul b’shishim, and they both eat Oreos with no problems.October 14, 2009 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #895347
A600KiloBear: wow! that’s gotta be hard, no Tahina. Esp If your israeli.
It’s hard enough for me Pesach w/o it but a whole year? wow!
what do you put on your shwarma? Do they at least have Hummus?
I’m not sure if this counts for this thread, but I would love to see
Heinz Ketchup get a Kosher L’pesach Hechsher as well as Hellmans Mayo.
However Frenchs mustard or any other, doesn’t stand a chance, as it is Kitniyos.
(unless your S’fardi, then you can even eat Pita & rice on Pesach)October 14, 2009 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #895348
All the imported kosher items here are all overpriced and expired.
Another problem is that the items that are on the kosher list are not all mehadrim, whatever that means…. Or for ashkenazim its not even permissible. I guess like in the states where all the meat isn’t chalak bet yosef and everythings bishul goy for sephardics.October 14, 2009 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #895349
Actually we have hummus from EY and I keep forgetting to buy the takeout hummus from the restaurant. I am American originally. The Israelis here bring some back from home but they don’t have room for enough for themselves let alone for me.October 15, 2009 12:13 am at 12:13 am #895350
Kraft cheese – they have so many promotions that you can often get it free or really cheap!October 15, 2009 12:30 am at 12:30 am #895351
Can we add things that we wish would be Cholov Yisroel???
I am desperate for Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups and no one that I’ve been able to find makes a pareve or CY version.October 15, 2009 12:55 am at 12:55 am #895352
Lakewoodwife, by adding foods that we wish could be chalav yisrael? that list would be endless…
Think of all those ice creams, chocolates, baked goods, pasta dishes… Maybe it’s a good thing I keep chalav yisrael, otherwise I would be gaining alot of weight…October 15, 2009 1:56 am at 1:56 am #895353
Entenmann’s stuff to become Cholov Yisroel- used to taste great back in the day when i ate it! i’m trying to keep only cholov yisroel these days!
& some how when i go to a store like Shop Rite i wish all those stuff were kosher!
& i’m really excited to try Gaterade when it gets a hechsher!October 15, 2009 3:31 am at 3:31 am #895354
I wish for pig to become kosher (as per Or Hachaim on Parshas Shemini)October 15, 2009 3:41 am at 3:41 am #895355
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SJS, I was thinking of that too. Except for meat/ poultry, cheese is one of the most expensive foods I buy. If Kraft cheese had a hechsher, that would help a lot, especially with the great promos on Kraft & Nabisco that seem to run every summer and fall.October 15, 2009 3:45 am at 3:45 am #895356
all those mini cakes in the deli’s for like 25 centsOctober 15, 2009 3:50 am at 3:50 am #895357
Cantoresq, nikkur of the back of the cow is very time-consuming and not economically viable. There are those who still do it. You can probably get some genuine fillet mignon in Israel, although the dcows there are of lower quality.
Our “glatt” isn’t really “glatt”. The beis yosef calls our meat 100% treif. It’s some chassidish hybrid of non-glatt and glatt, designed to minimize deception by a bodeik who isn’t fully a yorei shomayim.October 15, 2009 3:52 am at 3:52 am #895358
Why am I getting hungry just by reading this? 🙂
Mmmmm entenmanns……October 15, 2009 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #895359
I was thinking of starting a farm of bnei pekuah animals, minimizing kashrus problems, increasing yields, and allowing more parts of the animal to be used.October 15, 2009 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #895360
I wish for pig to become kosher
I read a short story titled “The R-Strain” by Harry Turtledove (the famous alternate history author) about a future where someone genetically developed a pig which was a ruminant. The scientists then asked a rabbi whether or not the pig was kosher — since it now chewed it’s cud and had split feet.
The rabbi debated the issue with himself and, ultimately, ate the pig.*
* Please don’t start in on how the rabbi’s decision was wrong. Turtledove is a sci-fi author, not a halachic authority and the story isn’t meant to pasken.October 15, 2009 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #895361
Admit it. Secretly, you really want to see it debated here.
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