July 13, 2010 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #703850☕️coffee addictParticipant
i just heard it means someone who is “frum” but goes to the beachJuly 13, 2010 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm #703851cb1Member
i would really like to know what exactly the term (tuna beigel)means
i am a member of hatzola and yesterday i left work to take a call and on my way back to work i noticed a text from a co-worker ‘why are u such a tunabeigel’ can anybody explain what that means?July 13, 2010 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm #703852Max WellMember
mbachur: A “frum” person cant go to the beach by definition. (Unless its some unknown separate gender beach where it is completely invisible AND inaccessible to the opposite gender.)July 14, 2010 12:46 am at 12:46 am #703853philosopherMember
Philosopher- why did you choose Belz Yeshiva as an example? Just wondering…
smartcookie, don’t wonder for too long. I’m not Belz, I’m from a different Chasidus. Actually I’m originally from a neutral Chassidishe background, if you know what I mean and I call myself a Chossid (or Chassideste) of the Aibishter. My husband and consequently my family and I are not Belze Chassidim. My husband is a farbrente Chosid from a different Rebbe.July 14, 2010 12:51 am at 12:51 am #703854missmeMember
Is he a lights and sirens aficionado?July 14, 2010 1:04 am at 1:04 am #703855☕️coffee addictParticipant
mbachur: A “frum” person cant go to the beach by definition. (Unless its some unknown separate gender beach where it is completely invisible AND inaccessible to the opposite gender.)
exactly!!! a person who portrays himself as frum in NY but in FL away from everyone else he goes to the beach (hence frum in quotations)July 14, 2010 1:15 am at 1:15 am #703856smartcookieMember
Philoshoper: lol! I like your description!July 16, 2010 3:12 am at 3:12 am #703857rebbe hahamMember
a tuna bagel is somone that needs to drive with his knees cause his hands are busy with two phones and a blue tooth to shomayimJuly 16, 2010 7:10 am at 7:10 am #703858sof davar hakol nishmaMember
i don’t know im not that educated in these areas, but over the course of time iv’e learned the definition –
a chassidish person whose in style and with it. Take it or lump it. i hate this labeling business its really chitzoniysdik and immature.July 16, 2010 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #703859rebbe hahamMember
i once heard that “frum” stands for, anything above you is “fr” finatically religious “u” you are in middle and anything below you is “m” modernJuly 16, 2010 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #703860WolfishMusingsParticipant
I must really be dumb as a stump. I’ve never heard the term before as referring to people. If you had asked me what a “tuna beigel” was, I would have told you it was a misspelling.
The WolfJuly 16, 2010 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #703861blinkyParticipant
I heard that too-its so true. Everyone views themselves as normal and everyone who is not like them aren’t (compared to them)August 5, 2010 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #703862
What’s a “Harry”?August 5, 2010 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #703863squeakParticipant
what “nerd” is to sciences
what “geek” is to technology
what “dweeb” is to appearances
“harry” is to frumkeit
The term does not reflect well on the user.August 5, 2010 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #703864
It doesn’t fit into the context I heard it used in but it may have been misused.
How does it reflect on the recipient?August 5, 2010 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #703865holtzichfestMember
a tunabeigel is a chasidishe guy who goes off the chasidish derech there are many levels of tunas some go way off and dont look like yidden at all but then you hear them rip out a chasidishe yiddish you know you met a tuna. some of them just decide to become litvish, others wear their white polo shirts tucked into their black jeans with small yarlmulkas and curled peyos behind their ears so there not so off just “chilling out”. there is another group of them known for shady business “ich hub a hooked up cadi mit a cherry light” where the money comes from i dont know. basicly if youre with the program you know one when you see one!!August 5, 2010 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #703866says whoMember
I never heard of this tuna bagel thing.August 5, 2010 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm #703867real shtarkParticipant
A harry is someone walks into a bais medresh with, his hat brim down and a knapsack sporting a white shirt cotton pants and sneakers!August 9, 2010 2:58 pm at 2:58 pm #703868
Still not the context I heard it used in.
When I began teaching I tried a technique a teacher used on my class. I stood in front of the class pretending to be totally oblivious to what was going on, spoke in a monotone, kept a poker face and had a permanent smile. The object was to see who the instigators are, which kids start misbehaving once others do and which kids will never misbehave.
Almost immediately I started hearing comments like “OMG, this guy is such a Harry”.
This worked until some students who had older brothers or uncles who knew me figured out that I wasn’t as innocent as they thought.
Recently I started getting harrassing phone calls from a collection agency asking for Harry Pepper and I was wondering if a student got a credit card or something in that name and gave my address.
(I finally got through to an operator who was willing to talk like a gentleman and determined that it probably wasn’t a prank. He also gave me enough info to figure out who the real Harry is- although I never reported him to the collection agency.)
In any case, once I saw this topic I thought some one may be able to shed some light on what a “Harry” is.August 9, 2010 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #703869dunnoMemberAugust 9, 2010 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #703870
“ich hub a hooked up cadi mit a cherry light”
Holtzich – you forgot the “lead’ner zitzin”!August 9, 2010 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm #703871SacrilegeMember
A tuna Beigel is a Chassidish guy who wears polo shirts with the top button buttoned. Is a big macher. Thinks hes all that. Will go to a baseball game and think that if he wears a Baseball Cap noone will realize that he is Jewish.October 25, 2010 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #703872
Anyone have any good Tuna Bagel stories? I have one, I was in the bank one friday, one teller had left the branch and went cross state to a diffrent branch. In comes the tuna bagel and asks the branch manager “Where is Mel Simon I havent seen him here any longer” The Manager replies – “He was transferred to a diffrent branch” the tuna bagel answers back “You mean to say he EXPIRED from this branch!” The manager replise in laughter no no no expired means to die he did nit die he just moved to a diffrent branch. LOL Can these guys get thier english straight!October 25, 2010 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #703873blinkyParticipant
The manager replise– you meant to write “replies”- so does that term you a tuna bagel bec. you can’t seem to get your spelling straight?October 25, 2010 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #703874WIYMember
This stuff happens all the time. Its not even that funny anymore. I just shake my head and feel bad for them.October 25, 2010 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #703875Michael JacksonMember
“ich hub a hooked up cadi mit a
Not sure what it is supposed to mean but it’s a line i’ve heard a few tuna’s saying in yeshiva.October 25, 2010 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #703876
I had a similar experience, but it was in Spanish. I needed to call a client in Argentina, but could not get past his switchboard, as I don’t speak Spanish, and my parner (who does speak) was not there at the time. So I asked a whse worker to place the call.
The switchboard tells my whse worker the person I want “retired”.
WHHAAT!!? I have this huge deal pending and he retired??!!
After the shock wore off, it seems that the dialect my worker speaks is a bit different than the one spoken in Aregentina, so “retired” means he went home for the evening.
Whew!October 25, 2010 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #703877postsemgirlMember
WellInformed- Leave him alone….he is a brisker… what do you want?October 26, 2010 1:43 am at 1:43 am #703878Smile E. FaceMember
you just had to drag food into it?! when will anyone learn that politics (jewish or otherwise) and food just dont mix?! and either way, it doesnt make sense, seeing as nobody seems to agree on the meanings of these terms… its like saying i bought a jar of peanut butter-some will tell you the only real peanut butter is JIF others automatically assume Skippy. then there are those who can only imagine homemade, and thats not even getting into things like reduced fat, crunchy, creamy, superchunk… the same way that in my not so humble opinion, when you say peanut butter, you obviously mean Skippy superchunk, but you meant Jif creamy, when people say these terms, everyone defines it in different ways…October 26, 2010 1:48 am at 1:48 am #703879
blinky – I didn’t know typos make someone a tuna bagel. wiy – Please don’t read it if it doesn’t intrest you. postsemgirl – Do you know what a brisker is?October 26, 2010 4:27 am at 4:27 am #703880postsemgirlMember
brisker- Yes I do. I know very well. Sheesh why can’t you take a joke?October 26, 2010 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #703881Just Askin 4 Ur thoughtsMember
The way I heard it, and I cannot back this up as I wasn’t there… The origins of the phrase “tuna beigel” was from a certain yeshiva back during the Veitnam War. When the draft was in effect, many frum boys enrolled in yeshiva to avoid going to the US army. As such, many chasidish boys, to whom the yeshivish derech was a whole other world, found themselves sitting in bais medresh. Well, there was one table in the back where the chasidish boys would sit and everyday they came to yeshiva with, yes you guessed it… Tuna Bagel Sandwiches. This led to the group being called “Tuna Bagels” – meaning, those boys who do not fit in with their surroundings. Today, we see tuna baigels as “modern” chasidish boys, cool chasidish boys, or rebelious chasidish boys. the term all gives the same conotation to all these types. When a person looks one way but acts another, not fitting in with the surroundings or when the picture doesnt match the actions. Chasidish boys who grew up sheltered, but now have every high tech gadet, cherry lights, and cell phone.
I hope this clears things up.October 26, 2010 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #703882rockerMember
What are cherry lights?October 26, 2010 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #703883
“ich hub a hooked up cadi mit a
Not sure what it is supposed to mean but it’s a line i’ve heard a few tuna’s saying in yeshiva.
Translation: “I have a Cadillac with a cherry light (you know, a red flashing light) and all sorts of other gadgets on it.”
real-brisker, lighten up! Nobody’s insulting you. But, truth is, you really shouldn’t make fun of other people’s English when yours is far from perfect. And no, it’s not just typos, you make the same mistakes – grammatical and otherwise – repeatedly.October 26, 2010 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #703884sof davar hakol nishmaMember
LAer, c’mon, everyone makes mistakes. as you’ve probably already seen, spelling is NOT my strong point. sometimes i have time to fix it and sometimes not. yes it’s important to spell correctly, and have proper grammar, but this is not a job, resume etc this is just a simple blog!October 26, 2010 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #703885squeakParticipant
ahem?October 26, 2010 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #703886
LAer – No im not from LA im from NY and I dont put any effort into my spelling on a post that will be seen by a few people. I don’t use spell check on my post for that specific reason. I don’t think anyone these days grow up without useing spell check, yes its takka a nabeach, but no that wont make me a Tuna Bagel.October 27, 2010 2:54 am at 2:54 am #703887
sof davar, I never said that it was important to spell properly on this site. I said that it seems hypocritical to make fun of others’ English when yours isn’t exactly up to par.
real-brisker, touche! What does being from LA have to do with it? Trust me, there are lots of LAers who can’t spell. Why the attack? Like I said, I’m not trying to put you down, so chill out. And did I call you a tuna bagel? Did I say that bad spelling will make you one? Nope. But you were the one who insinuated that bad English makes you a tuna bagel. Did I hit a sore spot here?October 27, 2010 3:53 am at 3:53 am #703888
LAer – I guess you dont know the diffrence between somone that is not from LA. But me a New Yorker, YES I do see that someone from LA will be more midakdek on english on a simple post. Anyway if you weren’t saying that someone that spells wrong is or similar to a TB then what else were you contrasting?!?!?!October 27, 2010 6:27 am at 6:27 am #703889ramateshkolianMember
I certainly hope Hashem doesn’t read these!!!! It certainly wouldn’t help us in our case for moshiach…PLEASE people…. labeling is a symptom of our downfall. DONT give into it! Grow up and accept everyone for who they are (not what they DO, but as a human being and fellow Jew).October 27, 2010 11:09 am at 11:09 am #703890minyan galMember
“accept everyone for who they are (not what they DO, but as a human being and fellow Jew)”
Ramateshkolian – I wish that you would have posted this on thread with the Conservative/Reform debate. Many who post there don’t get the fact that we are all Jews.October 27, 2010 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #703891
real-brisker, again, I’m not trying to insult you. Why the (not so) subtle jabs at me? Okay, I get it, you’re great because you’re a New Yorker and you know that a major difference between LAers and NYers is that the LAers can spell (is that a bad thing?) and you’ve spent much time analyzing people from these cities, so you know best. </sarcasm>
You ask what I’m contrasting. I’m not. Did I say that I was contrasting? I was simply commenting on your post:
The manager replise in laughter no no no expired means to die he did nit die he just moved to a diffrent branch. LOL Can these guys get thier english straight!
All I said was that someone whose English is not so great should not be suggesting that others “get their English straight” – seems hypocritical to me. That’s all. Nobody’s calling you a tuna bagel, which is apparently one of the nastiest things someone can say about you.October 27, 2010 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #703892
By the way, the phrase “tuna bagel” is not whats really used anymore. Those guys are refered to as “square-backs”, refering to the haircuts they get, visible from under the $3500 shtramel, as opposed to the really emese chassidishe chevrah, who get 1s or zeros.
“Hockers” are another good choice, but squarebacks is really the way to go.October 27, 2010 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #703893
LAer – I am not saing that there is a pesul in spelling correctly! I am just saying that there is nothing wrong with misspelling words on a simple post. How many times do I have to say this? Spelling wrong on a post is not hypocritcal to making fun of somones english.October 27, 2010 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #703894not IMember
I am not sure which “emeser” Chassidim you are talking about..
Aren’t they supposed to get triple zero haircuts?
Not sure where this ties in anyway!
Can you quit the business about spelling..October 27, 2010 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #703895
You have your opinion, I have mine. Let’s agree to disagree. Truce?October 27, 2010 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #703896cokeMember
real-brisker and LAer i think the two of you should grow up and stop fighting about nothing important. If you feel this major urge to fight, then you can go right ahead, but just try to be bigger than that!October 27, 2010 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #703897
“Not sure where this ties in anyway”
Not I –
The fact that you don’t know how this ties in is a good sign! It means you don’t know any of the “hocker / tuna bagel / square-back people. (Sad to admit, I know more than a few)
Believe me, when you see one, you’ll know it. And then you’ll say, “oh, thats what BPT meant”October 27, 2010 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #703898
bpt – I know excatly what your talking about. coke- can you please keep your nose in your own business. laer – OKOctober 27, 2010 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #703899ramateshkolianMember
BP Totty- That’s the way to go???
As if we NEED labels?? This is a sad reality that we feel like we define eveything and anyone- we’re normal= they’re too frum, they’re not frum enough phenomenon. Just be confident about who you are without the need to put other people into categories. Can you imagine a Gadol Biysrael using these labels. It makes me sick. Let people be who they want to be. If you truly feel compassion for those less religious than you, get involved in Kiruv!
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