January 13, 2011 8:35 pm at 8:35 pm #594180
thinking and thinkingMember
I know that one is not supposed to discard bread until it is moldy.
However, nobody in my home eats leftover challah.
And nobody eats the ends of loaves of bread.
I would LOVE to send the slightly stale challah and bread ends back 70 years in time to my relatives in the Holocaust, or even to starving children now in 2011, but that is not feasible.
So… is it better to keep lots of bread piled up in the corner of the counter until it is moldy, or is it ok to save counter space and discard it, knowing full well that it is just taking up space until it gets moldy?
Please don’t tell me to cook and bake with the leftover challah and bread, nobody here will eat homemade croutons or challah kugel or the like…January 13, 2011 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #728059
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a) Chalah kugal
b) stuff chicken
c) feed the birds/ducksJanuary 13, 2011 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #728061
make bread crumbsJanuary 13, 2011 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #728062
Burn it with the chometz.January 13, 2011 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #728063
It is Shabbos Shira this week, a pefect time for bread crumbs.January 13, 2011 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #728064
Make stuffing if you want to use it, or French toast. Otherwise do what we do and throw it out for the birds on Sunday morning. Btw, this will sound crazy, but we know the birds KNOW we are going to put out the challah for them. They gather at our house every Sunday morning and WAIT for my husband to come back from shul and throw out the challah to them. The do not do this ANY other time. I believe they recognize him, and they don’t fly away when he comes out, as birds normally do.January 13, 2011 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #728065
The WolfJanuary 13, 2011 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #728066
App. once a week, I take all the left over bread and challah – break it up and put it outside for the sparrows, they come in droves, especially now in the winter when they cannot find any food. Don’t do it daily or they will come every morning and leave droppings all over, but once a week does not cause a problem and you are feeding birds and not beeing baal tashchus!January 13, 2011 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #728067
make croutons – for soup & saladJanuary 13, 2011 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm #728068
we freeze the bits and pieces and make stuffing.
Basically you take the challah, add some water and then squeeze out. Mix in chopped up onions, celery or zucchini, ground beef, eggs, salt and pepper. Bake with chicken pieces on top or pour a can of chicken stock on top.
Its super yummy.January 13, 2011 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #728069
thinking & thinking– I hear you & await a good answer, too!! I rarely make challah kugel, @ the most, & rarely my husband makes french toast. We have loads of leftover challah that sits in the dining room,(sorta piling up) & a couple of times I respectfully double wrapped it & threw it out, but felt guilty cuz I didn’t know if I was doing the right thing :/January 13, 2011 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #728070
my shviger kisses any bread she throws away.January 13, 2011 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm #728071
make stuffing. with apple and sage. deliciousJanuary 13, 2011 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #728072
have a nice inexpensive Sunday outing with your kids and go to the beach and feed the ducks!January 13, 2011 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #728073
Try to buy less bread and challah so you won’t have so much left over. Throw out leftovers. I am not into putting food out for birds cause it attracts all sorts of animals.January 13, 2011 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #728074
I let my leftover bread become moldy. Then I put it into a platic bag and throw it into the garbage.
I hope I’m doing what’s right.January 13, 2011 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #728075
definitely not Joseph
SJS? Seriously not Jospeh??? Surprise surprise! 😉January 13, 2011 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #728076
thinking and thinkingMember
Thanks for the suggestions. I make a bit more challah than we need in case unexpected guests come, which sometimes happens.
So, it seems that my best bet is to install a special shelf where the challah and bread ends (I make homemade bread in the weekdays, but nobody eats the ends) will sit until moldy, unless someone has a better idea…..
As I stated in the original post, my family does not eat things made with bread or breadcrumbs, otherwise that would be a good idea:)January 13, 2011 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #728077
I’m still waiting for a (halachic) answer with you….January 13, 2011 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm #728078
maybe you could give it to your neighbors,maybe they could use it and theyll be so exited for it youll give them what to make sunday for supper maybe they never have extra with theirs…..January 13, 2011 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #728079
by the way i just thought you could make pizza challah on motzei shabbos its deli we love it.January 13, 2011 10:46 pm at 10:46 pm #728080
When you say you dont use breadcrumbs, do you ever make meatballs, shnitzel, anything with ground fish?January 13, 2011 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #728081
Kapusta- you have a recipe for garlic bread?January 13, 2011 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #728082
I do NOT recommend throwing it out for the birds.
The rats may get it first.January 13, 2011 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm #728083
Why do not make a smaller size challah and have an extra one in case guests will show up?January 13, 2011 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #728084
still not the answers we’re looking for, eh thinking & thinking?
🙁January 13, 2011 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #728085
you smear some margarine on it and sprinkle it with garlic powder and saltJanuary 13, 2011 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #728086
meatballs made with ground fish are called Gefilte fish.January 13, 2011 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm #728087
back to the original question about bal taschis, there is no issur to trow out food. The issur is to spoil food. You dont need to eat something you dont like and you deffinitly dont have to take a second portion just not to make baal tashchis, any piece bigger then a czieyis you trow out in a mennor that dosent cause bizi oichlin e.i. you wrap it before so it dosent get dirty from all the trash.January 13, 2011 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm #728088
we don’t want recipes, thank-you. we want to know if we have to wait until challah’s moldy before we can throw it out.. or if there’s a respectable, acceptable way to throw it out without letting it sit around ’til it gets moldy, when we ARE permitted to throw it out!January 13, 2011 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #728089
always here: Why aren’t any of these answers halachic?January 14, 2011 12:38 am at 12:38 am #728090
haha ItcheSrulik– making garlic bread, bread crumbs, meatballs, etc?!
deiyezooger– thank you!January 14, 2011 2:03 am at 2:03 am #728091
Popa has a rule about baal tashchis:
I am not a garbage. It is no less baal tashchis for me to eat something when I do not want to eat, than to throw it out.January 14, 2011 2:06 am at 2:06 am #728092
We save it for a trip to the beach, we feed it to the birds. It’s really exhilarating!January 14, 2011 2:15 am at 2:15 am #728093
Mail it to France with a stamped reply envelope. They send it back as a delicious form of “toast.”January 14, 2011 2:16 am at 2:16 am #728094
80, garlic powder and salt? And margarine? Who are you really?!
Smartcookie, make garlic oil and then transfer onto bread. Add dried parsley for color. (and maybe a drop of salt but I’m not sure its necessary.) But please, please, do not use garlic powder.
Oomis, I didn’t mean gefilte fish, I meant meatballs and then separately ground fish, but I think ground was the wrong term. I meant something in the way of a fish patty.January 14, 2011 2:32 am at 2:32 am #728095
Yay! More familiar people! Mod 80 were you inducted during the time I was here last? (Approx. A year and a half ago)January 14, 2011 2:45 am at 2:45 am #728096
How do you make garlic oil?January 14, 2011 9:40 am at 9:40 am #728097
The Best BubbyParticipant
To make garlic bread you take fresh galic and either crush it or put in food processor and mince it. Put on to bread that has been smeared with marg and then add italian seasoning on the bread. Wrap in silver foil, or if you want more crunchy bread, put on baking tin and bake in oven for about 10 minutes. Check this frequently and do not let to burn. Delicious!
To make garlic oil, add peeled garlic cloves that has been “pocked” with a knife and add to olive oil. Leave for a few days or longer for flavors to meld. Can add other spices as well, if you want.
Feed the birds on Sunday. Make an extra challah and give to an elderly person or sick people in your coommunity. I do this every week before Shabbos and Yom Tov. It is a great mitzvah to do.
My Parents Z’TL would eat any bread, as long as it was not moldy, due to the concentration camps Y’SZ. If they did have to throw away some bread they, too would kiss it and then give to the birds.January 14, 2011 9:48 am at 9:48 am #728098
How do you make garlic oil?
Heat some oil and put in some chopped garlic. (Garlic tends to burn very quickly so watch it. The whole thing should take about a minute.)January 14, 2011 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #728099
always there: They are all halakhic answers, i.e. 100% in keeping with halakha.
If you were looking for cute rituals that make you feel cool because they are new to you and/or strange, try a different religion. The neopagans are good at that kind of thing.
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