- This topic has 49 replies, 16 voices, and was last updated 2 years, 11 months ago by .
-
Posts
-
I want to buy a Zohar. Are there any kosher ones with English translation?
the place to buy it is a website called iamaveryboredbucherwithtomuchtimeonmyhands.com
Commonsaychel,
I thought they had zman already
depends which hechsheirim you use. is ok good for you?
@coffee addict, a lot of bucherim didnt get entry permits in time so they are stuck here
Beethoven cannot be translated into English, and Shakespeare cannot be translated into Hebrew. So too, the Zohar cannot be translated into a foreign language. You’ll first have to learn some Aramaic and some Hebrew. Then you can only begin to learn Zohar. The Pseudo-Aramaic in the Zohar requires studying with someone with Yiras Shamayim learned in Kabbalah and Zohar. Don’t do it yourself, you will get nowhere very fast.
I have a Zohar translated into hebrew by Rebbi Yehuda Ashlag which is very good. Go to the chabad website.
The Chavas Yair says to learn kabbalah from a mekubal.
You should not be learning Zohar prior to reaching 40 years of age. (And that isn’t the only qualification.)
There is a general problem with English translations o Kisvei Kodesh. Very often the “frum” translation is inaccurate due to poor English skills of the translator. as an example, I saw in a well known English Mishnayas, “melach S’domis” translated as “Sodomite salt”.
(If you don’t know what’s wrong with that translation, stick to the Hebrew.)
There is another problem in English translation when revealing hidden secrets falls in the wrong hands.
Artscroll is the Gold Standard in translating Jewish books.
Maybe Zohar is too controversial for the Artscroll … (With all due respect, really, but understanding limitations)
Are you at least 40?
To decorate your bookshelf?
I will leave it to the heilege CR poskim as to whether there is an age limit or other reason for restrictions on the reading/studying of Zohar in ANY language. If you have concluded you want to do so, the Pritzker editions translated by Daniel Matt are considered among the best English translations along with those published Tisby, although the latter is less complete than the Pritzker publications. BOTH are available on Amazon.
I didn’t ask search knowledge but I am surprised its more important to own a translated zohar than the original text.
At least in Shaas, Artscroll has better peirush but the Soncino has, by far, the most accurate translation
IMHO – best Hebrew translation and explanation is Matok Midvash מתוק מדבש.
Translation/explanation style is similar to that of Artscroll Gemara.
In the translation/commentary They differentiate between between the non-Kabbilistic parts (block script) and Kabbalistic parts (Rashi script)
Not too expensivesorry no outside links
Apparently, there is an inyan to have a Zohar is one’s house.
B’HatzlachaYou can download the Sulom version with Rav Yehuda Ashlag from hebrewbooks dot org.
Look at ebay for the above Hasulom version and google matok miidvash.
Zohars-R-Us. It’s shomer shabbos.
ebay itm/303466503213
im pretty sure that mir publications has a zohar with hebrew translation
I honestly think its comical how all the 45- year old CR users basically just sit on their computers waiting for a bochur to write something trollish and then attack the bochur for it.
So this is what we’ve come to.Redleg > At least in Shaas, Artscroll has better peirush
The problem is that their translation is BETTER than the original ….
They smooth any controversies and insults … all big questions are made smaller and nicer. Great to learn background to halakha, but not on understanding worldview of the Tannaim and Amoraim
“…its comical how all the 45- year old CR users basically just sit on their computers waiting for a bochur to write something trollish and then attack the bochur for it”
Actually, its considerably more comical to believe all the CR “gotcha” posters are 45 yo…..those youngsters are too busy to be bashing yungerleit for trolling. Its the more geriatric posters who are generally the most self-righteous, pompous and and judgemental@Gadol Hatorah- That is mostly true, but I have seen threads where people said that they were on the CR from their work computer when they were supposed to be working. Even sadder.
Dear Unique,
Masuk is the cream of the crop for reading the Zohar in line with the more widespread ideas of the Arizal. The Sulam is intended to read the Lurianic system into the Zohar. But both mix in many, many, outside ideas. And contribute to the common misunderstandings of the Zohar. Additionally, both translations are not wordy. One word will be used over and over, where the original uses many different terms. And, neither one understood Aramaic as a living tongue.Dear Ujm,
1. The criteria for Zohar are the same as any other midrash. Theological Jewish Meditation has restrictions.
2. Artscroll is far from any gold standard. They excellent at coherence and beautiful layouts. Much Torah has been studied because of their work. Though they have done little to advance accuracy or serious analysis.
Dear Reb Eliezer,
The plain words of the Zohar do not contain ‘secrets’ anymore than the Talmud does.
Dear Avi,
Levels of emunah, cannot be inferred from blog posts. And, the Zohar has no relationship to anyone’s beliefs. If one is still ascertaining a required level of belief, the entire rational behind all the basic Jewish texts becomes moot.
“having it and reading from it for protection is good for everybody”
“an inyan to have it in the home”
vei iz mir, how far we have fallen down the segula rabbit hole that nearly no is disturbed by this
See how the Zohar is used to explain our daily tragic events:
There are certain depictions in the Zohar, so plain words can also be secrets as they refer to something else.
n0mesrah, Thinking it over, you are right, there are secrets, but they are not revealed, so the plain words don’ t mean anything.
Dear Reb Eliezer,
See how the Zohar is wrongly used in it’s application to everyday life. I am mystified that when one uses the gemara or midrash in such a way, he is rightly chastised. But when is comes to the Zohar, people assume that this silliness is some deep truth that only the author’s of the Zohar could have alluded to.
Dear Avi,
It was in every post. But the moderator took it out. Such innuendo is reserved for the Zohar. Everywhere else, it must be censored.
Dear Avi,
But If this is guaranteeing that the hospitalized will make a full recovery, I’m all in.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.