April 25, 2021 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #1967721
I want to buy a Zohar. Are there any kosher ones with English translation?April 25, 2021 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1967736commonsaychelParticipant
the place to buy it is a website called iamaveryboredbucherwithtomuchtimeonmyhands.comApril 25, 2021 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #1967775☕️coffee addictParticipant
I thought they had zman alreadyApril 25, 2021 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #1967785ParticipantParticipant
depends which hechsheirim you use. is ok good for you?April 25, 2021 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #1967867
I just mean I don’t want the kabbalah center Zohar. I want a real one.April 25, 2021 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm #1967902commonsaychelParticipant
@coffee addict, a lot of bucherim didnt get entry permits in time so they are stuck hereApril 26, 2021 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1967970rationalParticipant
Beethoven cannot be translated into English, and Shakespeare cannot be translated into Hebrew. So too, the Zohar cannot be translated into a foreign language. You’ll first have to learn some Aramaic and some Hebrew. Then you can only begin to learn Zohar. The Pseudo-Aramaic in the Zohar requires studying with someone with Yiras Shamayim learned in Kabbalah and Zohar. Don’t do it yourself, you will get nowhere very fast.April 26, 2021 10:52 am at 10:52 am #1968046
I get your point. I have heard it has been translated into English & Hebrew , but if not, I can read Aramaic. Having a Zohar in the home and to read on occasion for protection is good for everyone. If someone here has a source to buy one, please DM me.April 26, 2021 11:19 am at 11:19 am #1968017
I have a Zohar translated into hebrew by Rebbi Yehuda Ashlag which is very good. Go to the chabad website.April 26, 2021 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #1968106
The Chavas Yair says to learn kabbalah from a mekubal.April 26, 2021 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1968110
Learning it & having one in your home are two different things. Everyone will benefit from having a Zohar in their home.April 26, 2021 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1968111
So please post sources to buy a kosher one.April 26, 2021 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1968114
You should not be learning Zohar prior to reaching 40 years of age. (And that isn’t the only qualification.)April 26, 2021 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #1968162RedlegParticipant
There is a general problem with English translations o Kisvei Kodesh. Very often the “frum” translation is inaccurate due to poor English skills of the translator. as an example, I saw in a well known English Mishnayas, “melach S’domis” translated as “Sodomite salt”.
(If you don’t know what’s wrong with that translation, stick to the Hebrew.)April 26, 2021 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #1968177
There is another problem in English translation when revealing hidden secrets falls in the wrong hands.April 26, 2021 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #1968186
Artscroll is the Gold Standard in translating Jewish books.April 26, 2021 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #1968237
Artscroll does not have a Zohar for sale on their website. Where can I buy one for my home?April 26, 2021 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #1968243Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Maybe Zohar is too controversial for the Artscroll … (With all due respect, really, but understanding limitations)April 26, 2021 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #1968241
Are you at least 40?April 26, 2021 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #1968384
You don’t have to be over 40 to have a Zohar in your home.April 26, 2021 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #1968387
To decorate your bookshelf?April 26, 2021 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1968398
Ujm, you must not know anything about the Zohar and lack emunah. You sound very childish. Grow-up and ask a search knowledge as to why it’s important to have a Zohar in your home.April 26, 2021 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #1968412GadolhadorahParticipant
I will leave it to the heilege CR poskim as to whether there is an age limit or other reason for restrictions on the reading/studying of Zohar in ANY language. If you have concluded you want to do so, the Pritzker editions translated by Daniel Matt are considered among the best English translations along with those published Tisby, although the latter is less complete than the Pritzker publications. BOTH are available on Amazon.April 26, 2021 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #1968421April 27, 2021 12:34 am at 12:34 am #1968427ParticipantParticipant
I didn’t ask search knowledge but I am surprised its more important to own a translated zohar than the original text.April 27, 2021 7:31 am at 7:31 am #1968436
I never said it was more important to own a translated Zohar. Fake news. I asked, where I can buy a kosher Zohar and if it is not translated into English or Hebrew, that is okay.April 27, 2021 7:34 am at 7:34 am #1968498RedlegParticipant
At least in Shaas, Artscroll has better peirush but the Soncino has, by far, the most accurate translationApril 27, 2021 7:51 am at 7:51 am #1968480UniqueUsernameParticipant
IMHO – best Hebrew translation and explanation is Matok Midvash מתוק מדבש.
Translation/explanation style is similar to that of Artscroll Gemara.
In the translation/commentary They differentiate between between the non-Kabbilistic parts (block script) and Kabbalistic parts (Rashi script)
Not too expensive
sorry no outside links
Apparently, there is an inyan to have a Zohar is one’s house.
B’HatzlachaApril 27, 2021 8:48 am at 8:48 am #1968541
You can download the Sulom version with Rav Yehuda Ashlag from hebrewbooks dot org.April 27, 2021 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1968565
Look at ebay for the above Hasulom version and google matok miidvash.April 27, 2021 11:07 am at 11:07 am #1968581hujuParticipant
Zohars-R-Us. It’s shomer shabbos.April 27, 2021 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #1968707
ebay itm/303466503213April 27, 2021 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #1968727
@rebeliezer FYI those are by the kabbalah centerApril 27, 2021 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #1968766Yid92Participant
im pretty sure that mir publications has a zohar with hebrew translationApril 27, 2021 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #1968785Shmili_OOngarParticipant
I honestly think its comical how all the 45- year old CR users basically just sit on their computers waiting for a bochur to write something trollish and then attack the bochur for it.
So this is what we’ve come to.April 27, 2021 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #1968799Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Redleg > At least in Shaas, Artscroll has better peirush
The problem is that their translation is BETTER than the original ….
They smooth any controversies and insults … all big questions are made smaller and nicer. Great to learn background to halakha, but not on understanding worldview of the Tannaim and AmoraimApril 27, 2021 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #1968859GadolhadorahParticipant
“…its comical how all the 45- year old CR users basically just sit on their computers waiting for a bochur to write something trollish and then attack the bochur for it”
Actually, its considerably more comical to believe all the CR “gotcha” posters are 45 yo…..those youngsters are too busy to be bashing yungerleit for trolling. Its the more geriatric posters who are generally the most self-righteous, pompous and and judgementalApril 29, 2021 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #1969478Shmili_OOngarParticipant
@Gadol Hatorah- That is mostly true, but I have seen threads where people said that they were on the CR from their work computer when they were supposed to be working. Even sadder.April 30, 2021 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1969759
Masuk is the cream of the crop for reading the Zohar in line with the more widespread ideas of the Arizal. The Sulam is intended to read the Lurianic system into the Zohar. But both mix in many, many, outside ideas. And contribute to the common misunderstandings of the Zohar. Additionally, both translations are not wordy. One word will be used over and over, where the original uses many different terms. And, neither one understood Aramaic as a living tongue.April 30, 2021 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1969766
1. The criteria for Zohar are the same as any other midrash. Theological Jewish Meditation has restrictions.
2. Artscroll is far from any gold standard. They excellent at coherence and beautiful layouts. Much Torah has been studied because of their work. Though they have done little to advance accuracy or serious analysis.April 30, 2021 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1969771
Dear Reb Eliezer,
The plain words of the Zohar do not contain ‘secrets’ anymore than the Talmud does.April 30, 2021 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1969772
Levels of emunah, cannot be inferred from blog posts. And, the Zohar has no relationship to anyone’s beliefs. If one is still ascertaining a required level of belief, the entire rational behind all the basic Jewish texts becomes moot.May 3, 2021 8:48 am at 8:48 am #1970408twistedParticipant
“having it and reading from it for protection is good for everybody”
“an inyan to have it in the home”
vei iz mir, how far we have fallen down the segula rabbit hole that nearly no is disturbed by thisMay 3, 2021 11:53 am at 11:53 am #1970417
See how the Zohar is used to explain our daily tragic events:May 3, 2021 11:54 am at 11:54 am #1970425
There are certain depictions in the Zohar, so plain words can also be secrets as they refer to something else.May 3, 2021 11:55 am at 11:55 am #1970430
n0mesrah, Thinking it over, you are right, there are secrets, but they are not revealed, so the plain words don’ t mean anything.May 3, 2021 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #1970498
Dear Reb Eliezer,
See how the Zohar is wrongly used in it’s application to everyday life. I am mystified that when one uses the gemara or midrash in such a way, he is rightly chastised. But when is comes to the Zohar, people assume that this silliness is some deep truth that only the author’s of the Zohar could have alluded to.May 3, 2021 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #1970508
Coincidence how many times the number 45 was used in this thread hours before the tragedy?May 3, 2021 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1970559
It was in every post. But the moderator took it out. Such innuendo is reserved for the Zohar. Everywhere else, it must be censored.May 4, 2021 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #1970944
But If this is guaranteeing that the hospitalized will make a full recovery, I’m all in.
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