Where can I buy a kosher Zohar?

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  • #1967721
    avivaroni24
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    I want to buy a Zohar. Are there any kosher ones with English translation?

    #1967736
    commonsaychel
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    the place to buy it is a website called iamaveryboredbucherwithtomuchtimeonmyhands.com

    #1967775
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Commonsaychel,

    I thought they had zman already

    #1967785
    Participant
    Participant

    depends which hechsheirim you use. is ok good for you?

    #1967867
    avivaroni24
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    I just mean I don’t want the kabbalah center Zohar. I want a real one.

    #1967902
    commonsaychel
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    @coffee addict, a lot of bucherim didnt get entry permits in time so they are stuck here

    #1967970
    rational
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    Beethoven cannot be translated into English, and Shakespeare cannot be translated into Hebrew. So too, the Zohar cannot be translated into a foreign language. You’ll first have to learn some Aramaic and some Hebrew. Then you can only begin to learn Zohar. The Pseudo-Aramaic in the Zohar requires studying with someone with Yiras Shamayim learned in Kabbalah and Zohar. Don’t do it yourself, you will get nowhere very fast.

    #1968046
    avivaroni24
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    I get your point. I have heard it has been translated into English & Hebrew , but if not, I can read Aramaic. Having a Zohar in the home and to read on occasion for protection is good for everyone. If someone here has a source to buy one, please DM me.

    #1968017
    Reb Eliezer
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    I have a Zohar translated into hebrew by Rebbi Yehuda Ashlag which is very good. Go to the chabad website.

    #1968106
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Chavas Yair says to learn kabbalah from a mekubal.

    #1968110
    avivaroni24
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    Learning it & having one in your home are two different things. Everyone will benefit from having a Zohar in their home.

    #1968111
    avivaroni24
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    So please post sources to buy a kosher one.

    #1968114
    ujm
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    You should not be learning Zohar prior to reaching 40 years of age. (And that isn’t the only qualification.)

    #1968162
    Redleg
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    There is a general problem with English translations o Kisvei Kodesh. Very often the “frum” translation is inaccurate due to poor English skills of the translator. as an example, I saw in a well known English Mishnayas, “melach S’domis” translated as “Sodomite salt”.

    (If you don’t know what’s wrong with that translation, stick to the Hebrew.)

    #1968177
    Reb Eliezer
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    There is another problem in English translation when revealing hidden secrets falls in the wrong hands.

    #1968186
    ujm
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    Artscroll is the Gold Standard in translating Jewish books.

    #1968237
    avivaroni24
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    Artscroll does not have a Zohar for sale on their website. Where can I buy one for my home?

    #1968243

    Maybe Zohar is too controversial for the Artscroll … (With all due respect, really, but understanding limitations)

    #1968241
    ujm
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    Are you at least 40?

    #1968384
    avivaroni24
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    You don’t have to be over 40 to have a Zohar in your home.

    #1968387
    ujm
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    To decorate your bookshelf?

    #1968398
    avivaroni24
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    Ujm, you must not know anything about the Zohar and lack emunah. You sound very childish. Grow-up and ask a search knowledge as to why it’s important to have a Zohar in your home.

    #1968412
    Gadolhadorah
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    I will leave it to the heilege CR poskim as to whether there is an age limit or other reason for restrictions on the reading/studying of Zohar in ANY language. If you have concluded you want to do so, the Pritzker editions translated by Daniel Matt are considered among the best English translations along with those published Tisby, although the latter is less complete than the Pritzker publications. BOTH are available on Amazon.

    #1968421
    avivaroni24
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    @gadolhadorah thank you.

    #1968427
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    I didn’t ask search knowledge but I am surprised its more important to own a translated zohar than the original text.

    #1968436
    avivaroni24
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    I never said it was more important to own a translated Zohar. Fake news. I asked, where I can buy a kosher Zohar and if it is not translated into English or Hebrew, that is okay.

    #1968498
    Redleg
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    At least in Shaas, Artscroll has better peirush but the Soncino has, by far, the most accurate translation

    #1968480
    UniqueUsername
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    IMHO – best Hebrew translation and explanation is Matok Midvash מתוק מדבש.
    Translation/explanation style is similar to that of Artscroll Gemara.
    In the translation/commentary They differentiate between between the non-Kabbilistic parts (block script) and Kabbalistic parts (Rashi script)
    Not too expensive

    sorry no outside links

    Apparently, there is an inyan to have a Zohar is one’s house.
    B’Hatzlacha

    #1968541
    Reb Eliezer
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    You can download the Sulom version with Rav Yehuda Ashlag from hebrewbooks dot org.

    #1968565
    Reb Eliezer
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    Look at ebay for the above Hasulom version and google matok miidvash.

    #1968581
    huju
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    Zohars-R-Us. It’s shomer shabbos.

    #1968707
    Reb Eliezer
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    ebay itm/303466503213

    #1968727
    avivaroni24
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    @rebeliezer FYI those are by the kabbalah center

    #1968766
    Yid92
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    im pretty sure that mir publications has a zohar with hebrew translation

    #1968785
    Shmili_OOngar
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    I honestly think its comical how all the 45- year old CR users basically just sit on their computers waiting for a bochur to write something trollish and then attack the bochur for it.
    So this is what we’ve come to.

    #1968799

    Redleg > At least in Shaas, Artscroll has better peirush

    The problem is that their translation is BETTER than the original ….

    They smooth any controversies and insults … all big questions are made smaller and nicer. Great to learn background to halakha, but not on understanding worldview of the Tannaim and Amoraim

    #1968859
    Gadolhadorah
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    “…its comical how all the 45- year old CR users basically just sit on their computers waiting for a bochur to write something trollish and then attack the bochur for it”
    Actually, its considerably more comical to believe all the CR “gotcha” posters are 45 yo…..those youngsters are too busy to be bashing yungerleit for trolling. Its the more geriatric posters who are generally the most self-righteous, pompous and and judgemental

    #1969478
    Shmili_OOngar
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    @Gadol Hatorah- That is mostly true, but I have seen threads where people said that they were on the CR from their work computer when they were supposed to be working. Even sadder.

    #1969759
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Unique,
    Masuk is the cream of the crop for reading the Zohar in line with the more widespread ideas of the Arizal. The Sulam is intended to read the Lurianic system into the Zohar. But both mix in many, many, outside ideas. And contribute to the common misunderstandings of the Zohar. Additionally, both translations are not wordy. One word will be used over and over, where the original uses many different terms. And, neither one understood Aramaic as a living tongue.

    #1969766
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Ujm,

    1. The criteria for Zohar are the same as any other midrash. Theological Jewish Meditation has restrictions.

    2. Artscroll is far from any gold standard. They excellent at coherence and beautiful layouts. Much Torah has been studied because of their work. Though they have done little to advance accuracy or serious analysis.

    #1969771
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Reb Eliezer,

    The plain words of the Zohar do not contain ‘secrets’ anymore than the Talmud does.

    #1969772
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Avi,

    Levels of emunah, cannot be inferred from blog posts. And, the Zohar has no relationship to anyone’s beliefs. If one is still ascertaining a required level of belief, the entire rational behind all the basic Jewish texts becomes moot.

    #1970417
    Reb Eliezer
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    See how the Zohar is used to explain our daily tragic events:

    That Zohar Wasn’t Really Saying That..

    #1970425
    Reb Eliezer
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    There are certain depictions in the Zohar, so plain words can also be secrets as they refer to something else.

    #1970430
    Reb Eliezer
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    n0mesrah, Thinking it over, you are right, there are secrets, but they are not revealed, so the plain words don’ t mean anything.

    #1970498
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Reb Eliezer,

    See how the Zohar is wrongly used in it’s application to everyday life. I am mystified that when one uses the gemara or midrash in such a way, he is rightly chastised. But when is comes to the Zohar, people assume that this silliness is some deep truth that only the author’s of the Zohar could have alluded to.

    #1970508
    avivaroni24
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    Coincidence how many times the number 45 was used in this thread hours before the tragedy?

    #1970559
    n0mesorah
    Participant

    Dear Avi,

    It was in every post. But the moderator took it out. Such innuendo is reserved for the Zohar. Everywhere else, it must be censored.

    #1970944
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Avi,

    But If this is guaranteeing that the hospitalized will make a full recovery, I’m all in.

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