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  • #2433143
    DaMoshe
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    A. Under a bridge
    B. In his parents’ basement
    C. In a cave
    D. In the BMG Coffee Room

    #2433459
    ujm
    Participant

    I live in Gateshead.. Close to Harav Avrohom Gurwicz שליט״א and Harav Yitzchok Ehrentreu שליט״א.

    #2433475
    Ex-CTLawyer
    Participant

    UJM/Joseph is not a youngster
    E. In Brooklyn with wife and his unmarried children

    He and I often disagree but have always been cordial and respectful to each other

    #2433485

    Monsey 4 unit townhouse, with 1 for each wife or pilegesh.
    He posts while they are all at work.

    #2433777
    FrumWhere
    Participant

    This topic needs to be dropped. It is bordering on מלבין חבירו ברבים. It is also not nice, I don’t know why YWN is allowing it. If you don’t like ujm, don’t air your foolishness here, please

    #2433845
    Neharda
    Participant

    Lets not do sinas chinam right after tisha bav the nations all hate us enough without us hating our brother joseph. Hopefully we have learnt what happens when brothers don’t like their joseph brother and lets not let history repeat itself

    #2433884
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Frumwhere,

    I highly doubt Joe is getting embarrassed by this thread his skin is too tough to get embarrassed by an unknown person on this site

    #2433909
    GadolHadofi
    Participant

    FrumWhere and Neharda,

    Perhaps you missed the unifying topic that Joseph started during the Nine Days:

    Is none2.0 Orthodox?

    which appears to be the impetus for this. I don’t recall seeing your posts complaining about that one. Did you somehow miss it or are you being a tad hypocritical?

    #2433913
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    I vote to DELETE this entire discussion,
    which never should have been started.

    This Coffee Room should be a place where
    Jews respectfully disagree with each other,
    by using facts and logic.

    This Coffee Room should *NOT* be a place where
    Jews make personal attacks against each other,
    especially so soon after Tisha BeAv.

    This entire discussion is much-too-close to
    becoming a personal attack against one person.

    Again, I ask that the moderators DELETE this discussion.

    Thank you.

    #2433996
    none2.0
    Participant

    Anywho it’s ok y’all I get it. You don’t understand. Rather villify the messager then listen to the message. Things that are too complex or too simplistic or too life-changing or too hard to come to terms with always get rejected. You can villify me and everyone else for that matter. But we all know when the computer shuts off and the only person you have to face is yourself. You _know_ the truth. It’s easier to push away reality. Then it is to accept that all the effort you put into one way of thinking your whole life, may be wrong. Or simply doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. I’m sorry guys. I’m not here to make y’all uncomfortable I’m here to stand firm in the gap of ridiculous add ons to morality that we as humans need to put in the past. It’s time to stand firm in our humanness and our understanding of self and of reality and start making choices based off common sense. What you wouldn’t accept as a relationship with anyone in your life is the same way you wouldn’t accept fallowing people or anyone, blindly. It’s not normal. It’s not natural and it’s not the way G-d designed us. And _thats_ how you know it’s not Devine

    #2434187
    none2.0
    Participant

    Also I _dont_ propose deleting this thread even despite it being whatever it is. I know why it happened it’s humorous and adorable lol and funny. I can take a hit. My views will never just be “accepted” villification only makes me stronger lol. my rhetoric more true. My views more hated cuz it’s a self hatred. But, I don’t propose taking it down in the name of being “nice” to one another cuz only allowing “our way” I also a form of censorship and control. We need to learn to handle the battle and become stronger. If this broke me I’m a snowflake. Thankfully I’ve been vilified long enough that this is nothing. It’s like an humorous fly on the wall. How can this bother me lol. So relax. We need to become strong to withstand adversity.

    #2434216

    coffee > I highly doubt Joe is getting embarrassed by this thread his skin is too tough

    Despite my own remark, I don’t think this is a halakhically valid argument. For example, you should not use a derogatory nickname even if the person does not get offended.

    #2434293
    mentsch1
    Participant

    Man, the coffee room has seriously deteriorated
    Gadol I have no problem with the thread started by ujm. you may feel it is lashon hora, yet ujm seems wise enough to have come to the correct conclusion. None is clearly not a believer in torah shel bal peh (by his own admission in the other thread). And if that is the case then ujm was correct in pointing that out and warning off others. The chafetz chaim himself credits a simple jew with warning him off from talking to a known haskalanik (and therby saving him)
    So we all owe ujm a debt of gratitude.
    This thread on the other hand was unwarranted.
    And frankly I do not understand the moderators on this site and what (and who) they allow.

    #2434524
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    “Despite my own remark, I don’t think this is a halakhically valid argument.“

    I don’t think embarrassing someone that wouldn’t get embarrassed is like killing him since the blood isn’t draining from his face

    #2434576
    none2.0
    Participant

    “Ujm is wise enough to come to the correct conclusion”
    Really. And I’m wise enough to conclude your a loser therefore I should tell everyone about it. Your not a loser. But a+b doesn’t justify c

    #2434600

    coffee, see CM 228:5
    יזהר שלא לכנות שם רע לחבירו אע”פ שהוא רגיל באותו כנוי אם כוונתו לביישו אסור:
    One must be careful not to give a negative nickname to another person. Even if the person is regularly called by that nickname, if your intention is to embarrass them, then it is prohibited.

    based on BM 58
    Although the victim grew accustomed to being called that name in place of his name, and he is no longer humiliated by being called that name, since the intent was to insult him, the perpetrator’s punishment is severe.

    #2434601

    Mentch,
    I think none2 clearly believes in Oral torah as he engages in the oral discussion about the Torah, expressing his opinions and listening to others. He is simply partly not familiar with the Oral Torah that is already written down or does not understand how it worked out. But this is ignorance or mis-education mixed with some skepticism due to weaknesses he observed in reading opinions of those who claim to believe in Oral Torah.

    Just look through this coffee room – I would count any post that ignores Jewish tradition of honest arguing is posted by a non-believer in Torah Shbaalpe.

    #2435343
    Avram in MD
    Participant

    “A. Under a bridge
    B. In his parents’ basement
    C. In a cave
    D. In the BMG Coffee Room”

    E. In your head, rent free

    #2435387
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Aaq,

    Thanks for teaching me the Halacha

    #2435409
    Gedol Hador
    Participant

    ujm, who is Rav Yitzchok Ehrentreu? Never heard of him. Do you mean Rav Avrohom Ehrentreu? Or Rav Yankel Ehrentreu?

    #2435573

    coffee> Thanks for teaching me the Halacha

    either I am not getting the irony or they did not discuss that in your cheder?! Or everyone was such a tzaddiq that this never came up?

    #2437506
    chiefshmerel
    Participant

    UJM: Considering you live in Gateshead, and you mentioned your proximity (definitely geographic but also hashkafic?) to Rav Avrohom Gurwicz, what do you make of him explicitly saying to vote for Eretz HaKodesh in the WZO election a few months ago? It’s described at https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2376328/harav-avrohom-gurwicz-rosh-yeshivas-gateshead-its-a-chiyuv-to-have-a-say-in-the-wzo.html, where you notably didn’t comment on an article that you probably would treat contentiously if it were almost anyone else.

    1) Is he your Daas Torah?
    2) If so, did you vote for EH?
    3) Do you believe his views are ideal for all Jews, even though not everyone will realistically follow those?
    4) Is Rav Gurwicz an apikorus, am haaretz, or any other derogatory term that you and others in your ilk like to throw around on this site when referring to Zionists and their supporters/collaborators?

    Disclaimer: I understand that there is a wide variety of views, and I’m not discounting any of them or those who espouse such. My understanding is of אלו ואלו. I probably wouldn’t seek Rab Gurwicz’s opinions on a lot of things for the sake of following them due to my lack of affiliation with Gateshead Yeshiva and Rav Gurwicz himself. But when I do hear about his opinion, it’s definitely worthy of respect, even if I or anyone I find more hashkafically similar disagrees. (For reference, I accept his authority, as well as that of any rav I disagree with, specifically if I ask him the question myself and he understands the situation before giving a tailored answer. I didn’t seek his opinion on this issue, so especially as he is largely a daas yochid in Charedi communities in Chutz La’Aretz, it isn’t necessarily binding on people who have no affiliation with Gateshead Yeshiva.)
    My question is about your portrayal of a straight and narrow path. You are against rabbi-shopping, so it sounds like Rav Gurwicz is your Rav. I want to understand how you justify such opposition. I voted for Mizrachi and would not try to recruit for EH, but am still super curious how you’d explain this.

    Looking forward to direct answers on each of my four numbered questions!

    #2437991
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    On August 5th, I disagreed with this discussion,
    and I recommended that this entire discussion be deleted.

    Since then, UJM has started a new discussion, titled:
    “The Fourth Reich of Israel”.

    I changed my mind. I was wrong.

    Everyone should know where UJM lives and what he looks like.
    Everyone should know where UJM works and what his job is.
    Everyone should know where UJM prays and learns.

    UJM is a Baal Motzi Shem Ra against MILLIONS OF JEWS.

    UJM is a MOSAIR against MILLIONS OF JEWS.

    UJM is a RODAIF against MILLIONS OF JEWS.

    What is the punishment for being a Baal Motzi Shem Ra against MILLIONS OF JEWS?

    What is the punishment for being a MOSAIR against MILLIONS OF JEWS?

    What is the punishment for being a RODAIF against MILLIONS OF JEWS?

    #2438112
    GadolHadofi
    Participant

    chiefshmerel,

    Crickets, huh? Don’t hold your breath for answers. In addition to claiming residence in Gateshead and Meah Shearim, he’s also married to three wives, has eighteen children, worked as both a chip designer and nuclear engineer, gives shiurim and answers a halacha line.

    Don’t expect answers from the arch-troll who lives a very rich fantasy life. In other words, he’s a nasty, compulsive liar who can’t even do that very well. Not surprising, given his highly questionable genealogy.

    #2438408
    YHirshman
    Participant

    No outside links please.

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