Which cities in the US will have summer camp open?

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  • #1861503
    sariray
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    Being that Brooklyn and possibly even jersey camps will not be opening, and I am expecting a baby this summer, my
    Husband and I would like to rent a house for the summer somewhere where Frum day camps will be open so my kids can have a fun and Busy summer . Does anyone know which cities/states are allowing summer camps ? Somewhere where there is a nice Orthodox Jewish community and some kosher supermarkets… keeping my five boys roaming the streets of Brooklyn this summer is NOT AN OPTION CUOMO .

    #1861580
    Goldilocks
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    Let’s see if I understand you correctly.
    You’re planning on having a newborn baby in your house this summer.
    You’re looking for a day camp for your five boys…which means you’ll be getting five batches of fresh germs delivered to your doorstep daily.
    Um…

    #1861577
    Joseph
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    The Catskill region is part of the regions of New York State that Gov. Cuomo is opening up. As such, it appears likely summer sleep away camps as well as day camps in the Catskills will be in operation in late June/early July.

    #1861595
    CG1994
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    Joseph-where are you getting that from? Catskills is part of mid-Hudson region which is currently close. Unless something drastic changes no-summer camps will not be opening.
    Camps in Ohio and Florida are opening if that helps.

    #1861610
    Joseph
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    Isn’t that region scheduled to open on May 28?

    #1861616
    CTLAWYER
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    Connecticut is allowing camps to open camps to open June 29 with very strict set of rules and restrictions. You might find a day cam and home rental in the Waterbury area to suit your requirements.

    Since the regulations limit groups to 30 including staff and a counselor to 9 campers I don;t think it will be economically viable for camps to operate,

    I have been on the board of a Jewish community sleepaway camp for 40+ years. They have also operated a day camp on the grounds for a few years. Last year there were 300 sleeping in camp plus 200 in day camp.

    This year, no day camp and in order to comply with the group of 30 rules (mess hall, religious services, swimming, etc. There will be only 60 campers and 20 staff. The costs will be astronomical, almost $300 a day per camper (and this is a non-profit camp). I voted to keep the camp closed this summer, but was on the losing side. Now we’ll see if the state approves the camp’s plan of operation and it actually opens. IO highly doubt it.

    #1861647
    Gadolhadorah
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    As Goldiolicks notes, the OP make zero sense and may be a troll. No rational yiddeshe parents would remotely consider bringing home a new baby in these times to a home where there are five mobile petri dishes (aka ‘boys”) returning to that home every afternoon after a day of rolling around with dozens of other boys from other families. Unless you are going to test all the campers daily or require them to wear masks and socially distance, you are literally putting the life of the newborn at risk. Perhaps they are planning for mother and baby to be “quarantined” from the rest of the family but otherwise, the concept is beyond crazy.

    #1861653
    DovidBT
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    almost $300 a day per camper

    What’s the normal cost?

    #1861683
    Gadolhadorah
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    Just speaking to a friend on the difficult choices implied by the OP and perhaps staying at home would be equally risky. The kids will still be out on the streets of Brooklyn coming home each day with potential issues and the data show that infants have low infection rates although this new Corona-related syndrome is worrisome.
    Sad that we even have to deal with this Hobbesian choice.
    To Sariray: much naches and good health with the baby and the whole family whatever choice you make.

    #1861688
    CG1994
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    Joseph-hopefully but that is phase 1-do you realize that camps are phase 4 and each phase is 15 days?

    #1861703
    yehudayona
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    I believe the Kawasaki-like illness hasn’t been seen in infants. From what I’ve read, Kawasaki itself usually hits kids up to age 5 (mean age 4), while for this new illness, the mean age is 8.

    #1861702
    Joseph
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    What’s the status of bungalow colonies?

    I understand the vacation homes owned in the Catskills have no problem as the government cannot keep homeowners out of their homes; even if it is a secondary/vacation home. But the bungalows that are rented are different; will they be able to open?

    #1861780
    Gadolhadorah
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    As of now, the earliest that rentals of bungalows, hotels etc. could be rented in NYS under Cuomo’s phased reopening plan wold be sometime in early to mid July, assuming there are no unforseen spikes in mortality/hospitalization rates. Those who open earlier risk loss of their occupancy permits and I suspect the local towns would be vigilant in monitoring any violations considering how opposed they have been to ANY opening. That would still allow for 6 or 7 weeks of vacation, assuming there are some who want to leave the city.

    #1861783
    TGIShabbos
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    I’m surprised no one brought it up— why would you travel hundreds (or thousands) of miles away from your OBGYN, the hospital you plan on delivering in, and away from the resources at home? Forget about asking a YWN coffee room, speak with your medical doctors about your plan.

    #1861793
    CTLAWYER
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    @DovidBT
    In 2019 the daily cost for a 7 week whole summer stay broke down to $225
    For 2020 with the new rules and restrictions in place it will be $298.25
    There will be far fewer activities, no out of camp trips, less staff, no contact sports, no team sports that require more than 4 players on a team (due to the 9 campers to a counselor maximum), that means no baseball (9 players on a team) or basketball (4 players on a team). No wrestling or boxing, a Dramatic or musical presentation in the Rec hall could only have a cast, support staff and audience numbering 30.

    With a limit of 30 in a group, they are planning to close the mess hall and deliver meals to each bunk to be eaten outside at a picnic table in nice weather or inside if it rains.

    Sounds like a terrible summer for a huge cost. Other board members who opposed the opening think the season will be cancelled once final regulations are known and the health departments get involved.

    I know that the cabins/bunkhouses have toilets and sinks with cold water only. Hot water is available in the shower houses. I can’t imagine the health department accepting cold water for sanitizing the cabins each day.

    #1861821
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    CTL- that sounds like a paragraph description written by a bunch of board members who have never stepped foot in a camp. Less activities, no off ground outings? That’s hogwash. There are already venues willing to sanitize and resanitize for family groups in the midst of this, let alone this summer. No wrestling? You can’t be serious. Wrestling?

    #1861824
    DovidBT
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    Jousting with six-foot lances could be a safe alternative to close-contact sports.

    #1861829

    Syag: “Less activities, no off ground outings? That’s hogwash” Hogwash?????? This is exactly what was in the letter sent from the organization representing the sleepaway camps.

    LETTER FROM ASSOCIATION OF JEWISH CAMP OPERATORS IN SULLIVAN COUNTY:

    • No out-of-camp trips
    • No visiting day
    • Staff will not be permitted to leave camp on their day off

    CATSKILLS SUMMER CAMPS UPDATES: Letter From Town of Thompson Supervisor; Letter From Jewish Camp Operators

    #1861838
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Thank you. I stand corrected on the off ground trips. That is a safety measure they have chosen i would assume. But i stand by the rest. Especially less activities. Don’t underestimate the creativity and resourcefulness of camp counselors. They do amazing things in low/no budget camps and with severely disabled campers who others think “can’t do much”. Don’t sell them short.

    #1861896
    yehudayona
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    “No visiting day” would make parents absolutely giddy.

    #1861902
    zahavasdad
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    Hotels are considered essential in NYC and they are open (Some might be closed because of lack of Business)

    #1861930
    sariray
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    I thank you all for your concern about the safety of my unborn baby… Hashem has been protecting infants who are exposed to germy siblings in large Jewish families for all this time, I’m
    Not about to start worrying now. As for COVID, my husband and I already have antibodies so we’re assuming my kids may as well. I’m not particularly attached to my OBGYN and as I’m
    Intending to travel to a US city not to a third world country, I’m well assured they’re capable of delivering a baby. My biggest concern is that my children have a busy and productive summer. I’ve spoken to several camp directors here in Brooklyn and it seems camp is not happening. If not for the impending birth I would be considering some
    Traveling or entertaining the kids myself. Now I am looking for ways to get them out of the house in a safe way. Seems like there’s not much in the tristate area so far. Pls keep the suggestions coming

    #1861977
    An opinion5
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    I heard Camp Coolam/Yachad in Monsey has a plan for this summer.

    #1862279
    CTLAWYER
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    CT’s Governor has announced that NO overnight Camps may operate in Connecticut this summer.
    No day camp that was not already in operation by May 5 may start operating until June 22 under strict guidelines and inspections.

    Most day camps in southern CT have announced they will not run including a number operated by Chabad

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