February 6, 2019 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #1675733Fake Yeshiva BachurParticipant
Should yeshivos allow bachurim to wear non- white shirts? Although it obviously doesn’t define a yeshivah bachur, It is considered to be the normal dress for a Ben Torah in today’s times. Or maybe yeshivos shouldn’t get involved, and devote their time to more important things?February 6, 2019 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #1675744
If it wants to be a white shirt yeshiva, it should require white shirts. There is nothing wrong with colored shirts, but they want everyone to wear the same thing.February 6, 2019 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm #1675736JosephParticipant
Are colored shirts okay for Shabbos? Why not?
Are shorts okay instead of full length pants? Why not?
Are white sneakers okay instead of black shoes?February 6, 2019 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #1675754
Joseph, that is a good point. Some make sure never to wear white during the week to keep it special for Shabbos. Shorts are not acceptable because they are immodest. White sneakers are not acceptable because they get dirty.February 7, 2019 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1675901GadolhadorahParticipant
Don’t enroll is a yeshiva if you don’t want to follow the rules, whether its white shirts, mandatory attendance at a Vasikim minyan, prohibition on Thursday night chulent or no smoking even outside the beis medrash or the dorms. You are a party to a “contract” of sorts….they commit to provide you with chinuch and you agree to follow THEIR rules.February 7, 2019 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1675916Yserbius123Participant
Yes. As an 8th grade Rebbi in the school I went to once said “Black shoes must be black like a RACIST_EXPLETIVE_DELETED with a closed mouth”February 7, 2019 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1675920Dr. NatParticipant
Yeshivos can do whatever they want, even if you don’t agree with or don’t understand their reasons. You are free not to go to a particular yeshiva and rather to go to a yeshiva that allows you to wear what you want. Or you can open your own yeshiva. It is a free county both ways.February 7, 2019 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1676240Yabia OmerParticipant
Ashkenazic mentalityFebruary 7, 2019 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #1676249Not commentingParticipant
Yabia Omer this has nothing to do with ashkenaz or Sephardic the reason a dress code of a yeshiva bachur or any Ben Torah for that matter in our days is due to simplicity and nothin more then that it is accepted world wide that a Yeshiva dress code is a regular simple dress code once you get into color “it’s not so simple anymore” this is coming from a Sephardic Baal tshuva of 22 yearsFebruary 7, 2019 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #1676261Not commentingParticipant
Also also just for the record Maran also wore white shirts and so did Hacham Ben-Sion Abba Shaul and so did Rav Moshe Levi and Rav Shalom Cohen and many more Sepharadi Rabbis of our generationFebruary 13, 2019 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm #1679387avocadoParticipant
It’s like in Mitzrayim when Klal Yisroel didn’t change their levush. Same idea.February 13, 2019 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #1679407
OP: my opinion is that yeshivos should allow it. They should recommend whote shirts and explain that its the uniform of a yeshiva bochur. Bochurim should make the choice.February 13, 2019 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #1679414JosephParticipant
funnybone: You’re affiliated with Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim?February 14, 2019 1:39 am at 1:39 am #1679451Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
“White shirts a must?”
For an Orthodox Jew purim costume? Yes, I would say they are. It just makes it much more convincing.February 14, 2019 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #1679900lowerourtuition11210Participant
I have heard that R’ Moshe Sherer Tzatzal always wore white shirts based on the passuk in koheles (9:8) בְּכָל־עֵ֕ת יִֽהְי֥וּ בְגָדֶ֖יךָ לְבָנִ֑ים וְשֶׁ֖מֶן עַל־רֹֽאשְׁךָ֥ אַל־יֶחְסָֽר:February 14, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1680065
this place is slow white shirts are niceFebruary 14, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1680064
reb yid should go back to his mishna then try gemaraFebruary 14, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1680062
funny bone is just a funny clownFebruary 14, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1680061
when does this get updated?February 14, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1680060
when i go out of town i wear pink shirtsFebruary 14, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1680059
helloFebruary 14, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1680058
i think joseph is modern orthodoxFebruary 15, 2019 1:25 am at 1:25 am #1680098
I don’t understand why you would think Joseph is Modern Orthodox.February 17, 2019 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1680859
SMS: can you provide a source to prove that I am a funny clown?
Can you provide a picture to show that Joseph is MO?
Is a pink shirt lo silbash for a man?
Hello to you too.
It gets updated when approved by mods.
What’s up with comment about Reb Yid?
Hmmm…maybe this post proves that I am a funny clown…lolFebruary 18, 2019 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #1681360BneiBarakObamaParticipant
Yeshivos need to be run like a business. There is a demand for yeshivos that demand only whit shirts, and there is also a demand for yeshivos that allow colored shirts to be worn.February 18, 2019 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #1681364tgsmParticipant
Free world, free country, white shirt, pink shirt or no shirt at all we are all still Jewish & let us all be thankful about that.February 18, 2019 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #1681588
tgsm: a yeshiva is a private enterprise and can create rules.
Did anyone ask if wearing a colored shirt negates their religion? Or if we shouldn’t be thankful for being Jewish if we wear pink shirts?February 19, 2019 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm #1681969apushatayidParticipant
“It’s like in Mitzrayim when Klal Yisroel didn’t change their levush.”
What color robes did they wear in mitrayim, I must update my wardrobe asap.February 19, 2019 1:02 pm at 1:02 pm #1681977apushatayidParticipant
“Are colored shirts okay for Shabbos?” Is there an inyan to specifically wear white on shabbos? If there is, then that would answer why not.
“Are shorts okay instead of full length pants?” I wouldnt swim in full length pants.
“Are white sneakers okay instead of black shoes?” If I was playing basketball I would wear white sneakers over any color shoes, every time.
Everything has its proper time, and place.February 19, 2019 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #1682576
The mishna in Maseches Megilla (perek 4) says that someone who only wants to daven in white shirts is suspected of heresy.February 19, 2019 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #1682578
The Gemara in maseches shabbos (119b) says that Rav Anan used to wear black shirts on Friday to show the contrast between Friday and Shabbos (As per the mesilas yesharim’s understanding of the gemara)February 19, 2019 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #1682579
Yosef hatzaddik was the ben zekunim and was rewarded with a colored tunic.February 19, 2019 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #1682587
The mishna in Maseches Megilla (perek 4) says that someone who only wants to daven in white shirts is suspected of heresy.
It doesn’t say shirts. Maybe it’s talking about pants.February 19, 2019 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #1682591
Shirts are also begadim, and when it comes to heresy you can’t make up your own kulos.February 19, 2019 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #1682590
Yosef hatzaddik was the ben zekunim and was rewarded with a colored tunic.
What color is your tunic?February 19, 2019 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #1682595
Shirts are also begadim, and when it comes to heresy you can’t make up your own kulos.
So I suppose your tallis is pink.February 19, 2019 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #1682598RichardMParticipant
וְשֶׁ֖מֶן עַל־רֹֽאשְׁךָ֥ אַל־יֶחְסָֽר
So is hair gel also mandatory?February 19, 2019 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm #1682599
Pink tallis is beged isha, They’re also twice the price of a standard tallis. So feminists who buy them are truly paying a pink tax.
Yaakov got all the spotted and striped sheep, Lavan got all the white wool sheep. Clearly Yaakov wore colored shirts.February 19, 2019 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm #1682611
Tallis can’t be beged ishaFebruary 19, 2019 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #1682614
Yaakov obviously wore white shirts. It says ויצא יעקב.
Tell me, do you think Yaakov would go out in a colored shirt???February 19, 2019 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #1682615
And he obviously wore Charles Tyrwhitt, like any good yeshiva bochur, and they’re not made of wool.
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