March 14, 2017 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #1228580
Baruch Hashem Klal Yisroel has a good quantity of gedolei rabbonim and poskim.March 14, 2017 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #1228581
Avi K again. Rav Elyashiv was that until recently. What secular knowledge did he have? I don’t know the answer, but everyone will agree that he was the ultimate address for every shaaloh.March 14, 2017 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1228582
Rav Elyashiv was both the godol hador and the posek hador.March 14, 2017 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1228583hashalem613Participant
Rav Belsky ZT”l told many of us that you can only make a Bracha ???? ?????? ????? on Rav Chaim and Rav Steinman today. I asked him regarding ??? ???? and after listing many names to him, the only one he considered was Reb Dovid. I think that would certainly be an indication of being the ‘Gadol of America’.March 14, 2017 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #1228584
hashalem613, I assume you mean ???? ?????? ??????. The mistaken version posted above means something entirely different, and possibly blasphemous.March 14, 2017 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #1228585
hashalem613, Now that we’ve got that out the way, I think that may be the answer to the OP. If Rav Belsky said it, and he himself was definitely among the Poskei Hador in America, that’s good enough for me.
Just for those of us living across the pond, does Reb Dovid Feinstein have an official position?March 14, 2017 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #1228586
Reb Dovid is Rosh Yeshiva at Mesivta Tiferes Yerushalayim in Manhattan, just as Reb Moshe was.March 14, 2017 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #1228588
The Gadol Hador Of America is Hagaon Harav Mordechai Aderet Shlit’a as per Rav Chaim KanievskyMarch 14, 2017 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #1228589
Does he also have published teshuvos?
Why do us Europeans never hear about the American Torah world? Who is Hagaon Harav Mordechai Aderet?March 14, 2017 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1228590
Reb Dovid’s published numerous seforim though I don’t know if there’s sh”ut printed from him.
He’s also a member of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah.March 14, 2017 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #1228591
I cant say I am an expert in every Rav in the US, but I have heard of most of them
I never heard of Hagaon Harav Mordechai Aderet. I had to google him and he is still unfamiliarMarch 14, 2017 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #1228592
I did google Harav Mordechai Aderet. He seems quite a kano’i l’shem shomayim. Can someone let us know, where he learned, who his Rabe’im are, etc?March 14, 2017 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1228593
He learned in Kfar Chassidim by Reb Elya Lopian And then went to Ponovitch where he got very close with Reb Shach and Rav shmuel Rozovtzky who gave him semicha. here is a video of reb chaim praising him very highly
this is a YWN article on reb chaim naming rabbi aderet head of his yeshiva and the video is thereMarch 14, 2017 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #1228594
Thank you. I thought you said he lives in America?March 14, 2017 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1228595
Rav Chaim praising him does not make him the Gadol HaDorMarch 14, 2017 10:46 pm at 10:46 pm #1228596hujuParticipant
Jared Kushner?March 15, 2017 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1228597☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
I am not a gadol (or Modern Orthodox).March 15, 2017 12:53 am at 12:53 am #1228599Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant
Randomex – neither am I, but what was that comment in response to?March 15, 2017 1:10 am at 1:10 am #1228600☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
Randomex, Rav Herschel Schachter, Rav Gedalia Schwartz, Rav Mordechai Willig.
🙂March 15, 2017 2:10 am at 2:10 am #1228601Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant
btw, the Rabbanim mentioned are not MO either (at least some of them aren’t to the best of my knowledge). They are Rabbanim (perhaps Gedolim) for the Modern Orthodox.March 15, 2017 2:11 am at 2:11 am #1228602
Which of those three isn’t personally MO?March 15, 2017 2:46 am at 2:46 am #1228603
Geordie613 he is the Mora Daasra of Khal Beit Eliyahu of Great Neck. his shiurim can be found on Torah Anytime. very inspiring!!!!March 15, 2017 6:25 am at 6:25 am #1228604Avi KParticipant
Lilmod, what is the difference?March 15, 2017 9:29 am at 9:29 am #1228605
Geeps, Right, thank you. Ive gone back to read it again closer. So he’s established a yeshiva in EY and he lives in the US. That’s what was confusing me.March 15, 2017 10:05 am at 10:05 am #1228606
He might very well be a talmid Chachim and a great Tzadik, but he is not even the gadol Hador for even Great Neck , NY , let alone the US(Great Neck, NY is considered part of of the Queens, NY Kehila (Vaad of Queens)) All the Rabbanim in Great Neck are Part of the Vaad of Queens. And he is definatly not the Morah D’Asrah of the Queens KehillaMarch 15, 2017 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #1228607It is Time for TruthParticipant
A major part of being a gadol Hador
(although hardly the Definition of )
is being a Manhig
Reb Dovid prefers to refrain from that role.
When they asked him to join the Moetzes ,he at first declined. Eventually he agreed , but largely from a distance.
When they were being Maspid Rabbeinu Yitzchak Elchanan at his Levaya, They lamented him as the Rashkaba”g
When asked [Translated] How come they wouldn’t call him gadol hador?
The response was “Because Reb Yehoshua Leib is alive [in Yerushalayim]”!March 15, 2017 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #1228608
All manhigei hador are gedolim. But you can have a “godol” who is not a manhig hador. The greatest gedolim are the manhigei hador.March 15, 2017 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #1228609It is Time for TruthParticipant
Rabban Shel Kol Bnei HaGolahMarch 19, 2017 8:44 am at 8:44 am #1238187YesOrNoParticipant
Who is the Godol Hador?
Popa Bar Abba of course!!!March 19, 2017 8:44 am at 8:44 am #1238188YesOrNoParticipant
The Gemara says that Papa Bar Abba was a very Large person!March 19, 2017 8:56 am at 8:56 am #1238194Avi KParticipant
Geordie, Rav Eliashiv consulted with leaders in the secular world. However, not all groups addressed their questions to him. Chariedi Sepharadim, for example, asked Rav Ovadia.
Joseph, Rav Yaakov Ariel and Rav Dov Lior are two. Rav Eliezer Melamed is also up there.
ZD, \i think that the residents of Great Neck will be very surprised to discover that they live in Queens. Is there no Vaad of Nassau County?March 19, 2017 9:12 am at 9:12 am #1238202
There is no Vaad of Nassau County
Even though Greek Neck is in Nassau County, they are part of the Vaad of Queens. The Vaad of Queens is not exclusively in Queens. West Hempstead is also partially part of the Vaad of QueensMarch 19, 2017 10:32 am at 10:32 am #1238313iacisrmmaParticipant
ZD: Is it that the Great Neck community is part of the Vaad of Queens or that the kosher establishments chose the Vaad of Queens as their hechsher?
If you look at the Vaad’s website they don’t list Great Neck as part of their “community”.March 19, 2017 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1238354
The Hashghcahs in Great Neck are under the Vaad of Queens and the Rabbanin there are members of the Vaad of Queens. I think one or 2 opted out (Due to trying to be more liberal than the Vaad of Queens allowed)
Great Neck is right next to Queens, and many of the schools take student from both the Queens community and Great Neck, so it makes sense they are joined even if they are technically in different countiesMarch 19, 2017 10:49 am at 10:49 am #1238358apushatayidParticipant
And the local Costco bakery is under the chaf k, does this make them the gadol hador of the neighborhood or all Costco shoppers. What does kashrus certification have to do with being a manhig? Heck, every cab driver is a manhig.March 19, 2017 10:57 am at 10:57 am #1238384
The Vaad of Queens is not just Hashghcha, Its all encompasing even doing conversions, that even Rav Belsky would tell people to go to , if they wanted to convertMarch 19, 2017 11:18 am at 11:18 am #1238403apushatayidParticipant
And yet, when my Uncle in queens has a shayla, he calls his Rav; not the vaad. The vaad is not the manhig on my queens.March 19, 2017 11:24 am at 11:24 am #1238405
They dont poskin individual Halachas, but rather community Halachas. Your local rav polskins individual issues.
However if a Rav poskins something not in line with the community like womens prayer groups, then they will interveneMarch 19, 2017 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #1238435
If the Vaad is out of line, the Moetzes will intervene.November 2, 2018 8:01 am at 8:01 am #1615529
I don’t think there’s any rabbi today that has such a status. There are famous rabonim and roshei yeshiva, but there’s no one alive today in America who has the status of a Rav Moshe Feinstein e.g.November 2, 2018 8:06 am at 8:06 am #1615530GadolhadorahParticipant
Such a simple question with an obvious answer.November 2, 2018 10:21 am at 10:21 am #1615618
There most certainly are Gedolei HaDor today in America.November 2, 2018 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1615690
Gedolei hador isn’t the same thing as “the gadol.” I never went to BMG or Philly e.g. and I wouldn’t consider the Rosh Yeshiva to be my gadol.November 2, 2018 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1615694
The Moetzess has little control over the Vaad of QueensNovember 2, 2018 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1615695Bachur3Participant
If anyone actually wants to know , it’s rabbi Kalish from Waterbury , although he’s a little young he definitely is the GHNovember 2, 2018 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #1615716
Bachur 3, learn were you taught how to use commas and periods?November 2, 2018 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm #1615735GadolhadorahParticipant
In real terms, the only “gadol” that matters is your local rav o posek who guides you in your everday life and perhaps any more “senior” rav who your on rav relies upon from time to time for especially difficult matters. Beyond that, the guidance we have under daas torah is “aseh l’cha RAV” not “aseh l’cha Gadol”.November 2, 2018 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm #1615749besalelParticipant
Zs dad: are you sure that all of the rabbis in great neck are part of the vaad of queens? the website for the vaad appears to list all its member shuls and lists none in great neck (although i did find something that showed that the rabbi of young israel in great neck was once a president of the vaad). aren’t most jewish institutions in great neck persian?
the vaad website also only lists one bukharian shul in queens. is there only one bukharian shul in queens? are there no other sefaradic shuls in queens? i thought that queens had a very large bukharian jewish community.
considering the fact that queens has such a large bukharian community and that great neck’s persian community far out numbers the non-persian community i am not sure why the vaad of queens is at all relevant to this discussion.November 3, 2018 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #1615839Do the right thingParticipant
Can we say there is a Posek Hador. Or the Posek that the Rabbonim refer the questions that are too hard for them?November 3, 2018 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #1615868LoshenhoraParticipant
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