Why I'm never giving blood again. By popa.

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  • #1157790

    Someone is having a bad day…

    #1157791

    gefen
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    who?

    #1157792

    popa_bar_abba
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    Also, the assertions that blood donation is harmless–are imbecile.

    Besides for the regular risk and side effects, (I almost fainted after I donated, and got a whole sheet about possible side effects), there is a very real risk that if you get in an accident within the next few days or weeks you could die of blood loss before help arrives because of the pint you already lost.

    Health will confirm for us.

    #1157793

    If you’re O+ you can’t give blood to anyone with Rh- blood.

    #1157794

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Oy,

    I’m sorry gatesheader

    #1157795

    Health
    Participant

    PBA – They think you’re controvesial?!? I think noone should donate blood!

    E/o -“What -are you crazy?”

    If there was no blood -the Gov. & Pharm. companies would finally make a suitable substitute. All the fake blood so far has always been rejected by the FDA. Now I smell a rat. It is possible every single one was dangerous, but it’s also possible that the FDA is playing politics. If you don’t know already, the blood business is a big business. Blood Banks sell blood products for a lot of money. These blood banks have tremendous clout with the Gov.

    E/o -“So what’s the difference? Who cares whether it’s real or fake?”

    Using fake blood will save much more lives. It can be readily available, like in pre-hospital or battlefield settings. Storing it should be much easier than real blood. There is no chance of anyone getting a infectious disease from it, as opposed to real blood. Real blood even though much safer than it used to be, still poses a slight risk. And it would reduce medical costs. That means less medical insurance premiums. And no, I don’t own any stock in these Pharm. companies.

    #1157797

    You’re right, your obligations are between you and G-d and none of us have a right to an opinion. That is if you keep your thoughts or actions to yourself, but you put a serious topic out on a public forum and in a really inappropriate way, that makes it open season on opinions. Sorry that we didn’t all laugh, it wasn’t funny.

    I see. Is that your best response?

    I think you really need to let this one go. It wasn’t funny and I don’t think you ever meant it as a joke, otherwise you would have just apologized for offending people and let it go. Not one person on this thread is laughing with you. Give blood, don’t give blood, it’s your prerogative, but to come out on a public forum and keep defending a position that people are telling you is offensive is babyish and you might need to look into counseling to help you figure out social cues. Giving blood or not is a choice and you are absolutely free to make your own choice, but you’re not free to make offensive comments such as – “bloodsucking jews”, “you can all go to blazes” “I’ll mix it into my own blazing matza” without expecting some backlash. Dude, you’re not funny.

    #1157798

    A Heimishe Mom
    Participant

    Well, I beg pardon for not taking this as a joke. You certainly did not indicate as such when you posted. And one never knows what one may post here!

    If you donate as bein adam l’makom that is a level above bein adam l’chaveiro.

    Keep giving. Hatzlocha Rabbah.

    #1157799

    gefen
    Participant

    Popa – nu? so ur gonna be in chicago for Pesach?

    Gatesheader – who’s having a bad day?

    #1157800

    squeak
    Participant

    Sounds like more than one person is having a bad day. I just went back and read all of popa’s posts again to see if I could read it in a way that comes across as serious. I couldn’t. It was even funnier the second time around. Especially the high pitched sanctimonious voice.

    Sometimes the hecklers take over the show. You can throw your beers at the performer if you like, but not me.

    #1157801

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    And I thought this was a pretty lame troll thread when it started…this has got to be one of popa’s most unlikely successes.

    #1157802

    2scents
    Participant

    yeah! now Popa is worried about side effects.

    THIS got be rolling!

    #1157803

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Give blood, don’t give blood, it’s your prerogative, but to come out on a public forum and keep defending a position that people are telling you is offensive is babyish and you might need to look into counseling to help you figure out social cues. Giving blood or not is a choice and you are absolutely free to make your own choice, but you’re not free to make offensive comments such as – “bloodsucking jews”, “you can all go to blazes” “I’ll mix it into my own blazing matza” without expecting some backlash. Dude, you’re not funny.

    Oh, so now you say that you were really just responding to me calling you “bloodsucking jews” and the other offensive stuff I said.

    I’m perfectly happy to take abuse for that. I wrote that to be funny, and there’s nothing I’d like more than to be told I am being offensive. That was precisely the response I was looking for.

    But, I am not happy to be told that you want me to continue giving you my blood, and that not only don’t you have to thank me for it, but you have the gall to give me mussar about how I should be happy to do it.

    Squeak: I certainly think the thread is funny. And I haven’t stopped trying to put funny things in my responses. But it’s gotten pretty serious. I really am dismayed by the responses; I hope all these people get some counseling before they think about becoming parents.

    #1157804

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    can we add bloodsucker to PBA’s subtitle?

    #1157805

    A close friend of mine has a brother with Aspergers and some mental health issues. He loves to post his opinions on message boards, but unfortunately people don’t realize his situation and get into arguments with him all the time. If they met him in person they wouldn’t have the same response. It frustrates my friend to see these useless arguments. I’m going to take a lesson from her experience and assume that if you still haven’t let the “joke” go, this is not about your sense of humor and not respond again. Good luck!

    #1157806

    Bar Shattya
    Member

    I havent really read anyones posts besides popa’s, but popa is making a sound argument that you guys ARE bloodsucking jews and I dont know why he should take that back. (unless maybe he loses some advertisers because of it.)

    #1157807

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    A close friend of mine has a brother with Aspergers and some mental health issues. He loves to post his opinions on message boards, but unfortunately people don’t realize his situation and get into arguments with him all the time. If they met him in person they wouldn’t have the same response. It frustrates my friend to see these useless arguments. I’m going to take a lesson from her experience and assume that if you still haven’t let the “joke” go, this is not about your sense of humor and not respond again. Good luck!

    So what you are saying is that if someone disagree with you, you assume that they are retarded. How wonderfully open minded of you.

    #1157808

    miritchka
    Member

    “A close friend of mine has a brother with Aspergers and some mental health issues. He loves to post his opinions on message boards, but unfortunately people don’t realize his situation and get into arguments with him all the time. If they met him in person they wouldn’t have the same response. It frustrates my friend to see these useless arguments. I’m going to take a lesson from her experience and assume that if you still haven’t let the “joke” go, this is not about your sense of humor and not respond again. Good luck!

    So what you are saying is that if someone disagree with you, you assume that they are retarded. How wonderfully open minded of you. “

    Popa: from Barshaatya’s post, it sounds that if you dont get responses in person or if you do get responses on a forum, then you may have problems in the mental capacity. I’m quite confused…I may just not donate blood so as not to pass on whatever it is i’m missing…;)

    #1157809

    cinderella
    Member

    “Dude, you’re not funny”

    Actually,it was pretty funny. But what was even more hilarious is how you took him so seriously. Dude,lighten up.

    #1157810

    Avram in MD
    Participant

    popa_bar_abba,

    Thank you so much for your donations of blood. B”H I have never needed to receive a blood transfusion, but if I ever did, I know my life would have been saved thanks to generous people like you, who took the time and felt the discomfort to donate.

    I don’t think very many people in this thread are “getting” it.

    #1157811

    the.nurse
    Member

    Popa

    As someone else mentioned, you did not post whether you are O positive or O negative. I’m going to assume you are O positive since that blood type is pretty common. In that case, you CANNOT give blood to O negative, A negative, B negative, or AB negative! So there! So much for being able to give blood to everyone…….

    (If you’re O negative, then u have my most sincere apologies) 🙂

    #1157812

    Avram in MD
    Participant

    All,

    Let’s deconstruct this thread a little bit.

    First, popa_bar_abba signed his OP as “the little red hen.” In that story, the little red hen asked some other barnyard critters for help planting wheat, then tending to it, reaping it, threshing it, milling it, baking, etc. At each stage, the other critters refused to help. When it came time to eat the bread, however, all of the critters jumped up to “help”, but the little red hen refused them, and ate the whole loaf herself.

    In the blood donation case, the “little red hen” (the OP) can bake the bread but cannot eat it, while the “barnyard critters” (the other posters) can eat or bake the bread but cannot bake any for the little red hen. So, the hen is asking (in popa_bar_abba’s classically inflammatory way), “why should I go through the trouble to bake bread for all you critters???”

    I cannot guess what popa_bar_abba wanted as a response. We could thank him for his baking, or mock him for his blood type I suppose:-) I think he was expecting to be attacked for his anti-Semitic tone, but I don’t think he was expecting a wave of “who cares whether you can eat our bread or not… keep baking bread for us anyway because we’re hungry!”

    Unlike popa, however, I don’t interpret those responses as a sign of “entitlement.” To be in a position of need is difficult emotionally, so for a giver to act scornfully towards the receiver is cruel. People are responding negatively to this cruelty, but are missing the mark on what exactly about popa’s post is bothering them.

    #1157813

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Avram in MD: Thank you.

    The.nurse: When I started the thread, I didn’t know about that, so I hadn’t checked. I since checked and am indeed O+ which means that I cannot give blood to any one with RH-.

    So, the math works out that I can give to 3 “other” groups, and only receive from 1 “other” group (O-). And the only “other” which I can receive from is the most desired one.

    Or, to break it into percentages: When you take out the O+ blood slaves (37%) like me, we can say I can give to 48% of the “other” population, and can receive from only 6% of the “other” population.

    So I think my rant is still justified.

    But if it isn’t, then it is on behalf of all the O-‘s out there who give to 100% and only receive from 6%.

    Here is the percentages breakdown I found online:

    O+ 37%

    A+ 34

    B+ 10

    AB+ 4

    #1157814

    soliek
    Member

    “So what you are saying is that if someone disagree with you, you assume that they are retarded.”

    well we know that popa is mildly retarded…

    #1157815

    mommy100
    Member

    Hi Popa

    just want to make you aware that Chai Lifeline has a blood program where you can specifically request that you only want to give to O blood type patients.

    #1157816

    Health
    Participant

    PBA – Not fair! E/o is just cursing you out. Not one commented on me that I’m totally against anyone giving blood.

    #1157817

    mewho
    Participant

    PBA was that a ”purim shpiel”

    I happen to have O+ blood and have on occassion been called to donate for specific recipients. When called , i went gladly and if I was not anemic I did donate.

    I would gladly do that today but unfortunately I take meds that no longer allow me to donate.

    I would ratehr be off the meds and share my O+ with those in need.

    Thank you

    #1157818

    menucha12
    Member

    firstly giving blood is healthy thats why some people give blood as often as possible it helps circulation and secondly so what if you dont get blood back you gave and thats a good thing to do

    #1157819

    Sam2
    Participant

    Actually mods, Health is right. Can we remove his earlier post so that no anti-Semite comes on here and thinks that Orthodox Jews are against saving lives?

    #1157820

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    PBA – Not fair! E/o is just cursing you out. Not one commented on me that I’m totally against anyone giving blood.

    I’d suggest adding in some anti-semitic references.

    I think the funnies thing ever would be if some neonazi website picked up my post.

    #1157821

    tb
    Participant

    On a totally serious note (as opposed to the rest of this thread) I would like to thank the O+ people who donated blood for my O+ baby when he had his heart surgery recently – And to the Philadelphia Bikur Cholim for coordinating it.

    #1157822

    Health
    Participant

    tb -“as opposed to the rest of this thread”

    Excuse me. There is nothing Non-serious about my post.

    #1157823

    panni55
    Member

    mewho: I’m totally with you. I used to donate regularly, several times a year. Now I’m on meds that prevent me from donating blood. I also was on a bone marrow replacement donor list. I was called down a couple of times for more bloodwork as I was match. Unfortunately, it was never close enough. It NEVER occured to me to refrain from these activities because of minor discomfort, I have TINY veins, or any other reasons.

    I started donating blood when my father needed it and the blood supply in the hospital was so low that they would’nt give transfusions unless the blood was replaced.

    That was before Bikur Cholim drives. If anyone who can gives blood, he should be blessed as he is literally giving someone life.

    #1157824

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    What blood type did the Korban Pesach in Mitzrayim have?

    #1157826

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    What blood type did the Korban Pesach in Mitzrayim have?

    type BAAAAHH

    #1157827

    147
    Participant

    YW Moderator-42:- Going in order of events:- What Blood Group was Makas Dom? The 1st of the 10 plagues.

    #1157828

    msseeker
    Member

    PBA, this thread is hysterically funny! Thanks for the well-needed laughs in this busy time. Keep it up!

    #1157829

    147
    Participant

    Here is the percentages breakdown I found online:

    O+ 37%

    A+ 34

    B+ 10

    AB+ 4

    There was a time when “O” was over 50% of the population,if not 60%, and “A” & “B” were both aproximately just over 10% of the population {“AB” always having been very few}, so popa_bar_abba:- Consider yourself lucky, that nowadays there are more people whom you can receive from, and fewer people who have to turn away from their blood group to come unto you for “O”.

    #1157830

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    I actually was thinking, isn’t this sheli sheli vshelcha shelcha (anshei sodom)

    #1157831

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I actually was thinking, isn’t this sheli sheli vshelcha shelcha (anshei sodom)

    Still better than the other posters here: ??? ??? ???? ???, ???

    #1157832

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Pba,

    No one says they aren’t going to donate except you

    And believe me everyone hopes they won’t need YOUR blood

    Oh and if you are wondering I donate blood when I can and I’m B+

    #1157833

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    Just had the zchus of giving for a local baby pre op (O-)!

    #1157834

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    That’s very nice of you syag

    #1157835

    kapusta
    Participant

    Just had the zchus of giving for a local baby pre op (O-)!

    Thats amazing.

    Nice to see you around. 🙂

    *kapusta*

    #1157836

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    syag: that is very kind of you.

    #1157837

    MorahRach
    Member

    Joke or not.. Giving blood is such a mitzvah we should all be so lucky to give. I’m due to give its been too long. Has anyone ever given platelets? A friend of mine z’l was in need of blood and platelets, I was so scared because I ha never even heard of platelets at the time. ( in my defense I was in college) I went, I gave, I cringed, and bH didn’t even hurt me. Also I am o+ so I try to give blood when I can. We all should!

    #1157838

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Thanks for reminding me, there’s a blood drive in queens today that I was hoping on going to

    #1157839

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    There is a blood drive on wednesday where I spend my days. But I can’t give, because it is only 7 weeks minus a day.

    #1157840

    big deal
    Participant

    Starbucks sponsors blood drives?

    #1157841

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Actually, I found out that they are also having it next week Wednesday. Now, I will have given blood 8 weeks previously on thursday. So the question is, does the 56 days count the day that you give, and the present day?

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