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January 6, 2009 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #589065believerParticipant
why is the world so against israel?? why are they only waking up now after all the rockets have been thrown and they are just defending their own country and civilians?? why didnt they see that rockets were being thrown at israel for the longest time????
January 6, 2009 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #861571feivelParticipant“ why is the world so against israel? “
they , want to be against Clal Yisrael.
we represent Hashem
we represent the Torah
we represent morality and the nagging reminder that you cant just do what your “heart” tells you to do
they dont want to be reminded that there is a Boss.
this is nothing new of course.
and its all according to Plan.
” why didnt they see that rockets were being thrown at israel for the longest time???? “
they see what they want to see.
January 6, 2009 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #861572intellegentMember“halacha hi beyadua she’esav sone es (l’?) yaakov”
January 6, 2009 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #861573believerParticipantthats a hundred percent true!!!!!!but why were there yidden protestig in london along with all the antisemetic goim????That was a massive chilul hashem!!!!
January 6, 2009 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #861574intellegentMemberfeivel,
if that is the case, do they think of israel per se as that, or just religious jews?
January 6, 2009 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #861575believerParticipantbut that still doesnt answer my question? why were there yiden protesting in london?? thats a massive chilul hashem. i just cant understand the logic. if they wanted to show that its wrong, let them do it in private. not among all the anti semetic goyim???
January 6, 2009 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #861576feivelParticipantintelligent
the Jewish People
believer
unfortunately many Jews are like goyim
January 6, 2009 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #861577intellegentMemberbeliever,
let’s try to be done l’kaff zchus and say that they’re crazy.
January 6, 2009 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #861578oomisParticipantWhen the truth is literaslly in front of one’s eyes and STILL one refuses to see, it can only be that Hashem is blinding that person. Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense. Muslim monsters blow up a frum woman expecting her parents’ only hope for a grandchild, along with all the others that died in Sbarro’s Pizza, they murder a beautiful young woman about to be married, along with her father, a noted doctor who often saved the lives of those worthless enemies of our people (maybe even one of them was the bomber), and so on ad nauseum, and THE WORLD IS SILENT! Israel defends itself and the world is up in arms. There was a video that chilled me, with an American anchor interviewing a Muslim American female reporter. The woman steadfastedly refused to acknowledge Hamas’ responsibility for what was happening, calling for the world to castigate Israel for its aggression. When asked if she thought Hamas bore any responsibility, she answered very emphatically, “ABSOLUTELY NOT!!” This can only happen with Hashem’s decision.
January 6, 2009 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #861579feivelParticipant“let’s……..say that they’re crazy”
thats what i said
January 7, 2009 2:09 am at 2:09 am #861580mazal77ParticipantDoes anyone expect the world to love Jews. Through out History, we are always the scapegoats to all the world’s problem. They dream of a world with out jews. Little do they know that without jews, they wouldn’t be in this world either.
January 7, 2009 3:15 am at 3:15 am #861581havesomeseichelMemberMost of the world has not even seen a Jew, but are quick to condemn Israel (and Jews at the same time). We need to realize that in the Goyim’s minds, Israel=Jews. Israel is the most condemned country by the UN. No, not Iran, N. Korea, Cuba, or Venuzuela not even America- ISRAEL! We will be blamed for everything wrong in the world, from terrorism to the economic crises. If they could, they would find a way to blame every hurricane, earthquake and tornado on us as well… they just arent creative enough yet 😉
We are the most hated nation on the planet, and there is nothing we can do about it. No matter what, we will be hated. Our existence proves they are just fools believing in lies. We show that they follow illogical and false paths.
January 7, 2009 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #861582JewessMemberIt’s the Jewish state that the world has a problem with. The world will always be against the Jews. We are a minority yet we are smarter and stronger than any other nationality.
Mark Twain said about the Jews:
“If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk.
The Jew saw them all, survived them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmaties, of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert but aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jews; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?”
*Mark Twain, September 1897*
I think jealousy and annoyance at the fact that no matter what – we will always be there, better than everybody else – is what pits so many against us. I don’t think that the world cares about whether the Jew is religious or not. A Jew is a Jew, no matter what.
January 7, 2009 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #861583SJSinNYCMemberIt’s the Jewish state that the world has a problem with.
No, its the Jews that the world has a problem with. They use Israel as an excuse for more Jew hating.
I think the world actually loves us – they love having a scapegoat! What would they do without us? There would be no one to blame but themselves…
January 8, 2009 2:04 am at 2:04 am #861584believerParticipanti think that they know deep down that we are unique and they just cant admit it!!! one day they will find out and hopefully it will be soon1!!!
August 24, 2011 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #861586minyan galMemberI am re-opening this old thread to post an excellent article that was published in The National Post, one of Canada’s national newspapers. As far as I know, the author is not Jewish.
When Arabs kill Arabs, the left falls silent
Aug. 20, 2011 |
As the news from Syria grows darker, the silence from the left in Canada grows louder.
In Syria anti-government protesters have told reporters that President Bashar al-Assad’s police are using torture in an especially perverse way. It’s not for information gathering, since they can learn who opposes them by simply photographing demonstrators in the streets. Now they torture to terrify rebels by promising them a hideous death.
The police pick up men at random, keep them a few days, then return them to their families, the many signs of torture readable on their dead bodies. It’s not enough to kill demonstrators with tanks and snipers or have gunboats bombard the port of Latakia. The people are willing to face death. The police want them to fear torture as well.
Seventy such deaths in detention have recently been documented, 40 of them in the city of Homs, a centre of anti-Assad feeling.
In the five months since the demonstrations began, the government has killed about 2,000 citizens. The official view is that the state is saving Syria from vicious gangs of criminals. State television reports that events are proceeding as they should.
Even Saudi Arabia and the Arab League have criticized Assad’s use of force. Barack Obama wants him to resign. So far, however, he remains committed to the homicidal style that kept his father’s Baath government in office for 29 years.
Last Saturday about 40 people with anti-Assad banners held a peaceful demonstration outside the embassy of Syria in Ottawa. They all appeared to be Syrians, according to the Ottawa Citizen reporter. They were talking about the monstrous government that’s ruling their homeland and the attempts by pro-Assad operatives in Canada to intimidate them.
But on that occasion, where were all the Canadian-born experts on the Middle East, those vociferous and selfrighteous moralists, who come out of the woodwork every time Israel appears to be in violation of some UN resolution or strikes back against an outrage like the killing of the bus passengers on Thursday near Eilat?
Where, during the Syrian protest, were the massed student armies from York University and Concordia and the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education? Where were the legions of academics and trade unionists who are always ready to declare what policy should be followed by the wise and the virtuous? Where, for that matter, were Dykes and Trans People for Palestine, who make such a great noise in Toronto and whose website proudly declares they support everyone’s rights?
It happens that the answers to these rhetorical questions are the same in each case: They were all at work on their next Israeli Apartheid campaign. The truth is that leftish Canadians have only one interest in the Middle East, the struggle between Palestinians and Israelis. That appears to be their entire foreign policy. They insist they are not prejudiced; they are devoted to human rights, nothing more.
But when they consider the world beyond Canada, and choose which cause deserves their energy, they usually select the Palestinians. Their chronically narrow focus on a single conflict is selfblinding. It produces a weird aberration of opinion.
When conflict appears elsewhere on the planet, whether it’s in Tibet or Sudan or Syria, our left-wing morality police go limp. They exhibit passion on one issue only. How can they be taken seriously?
In Philip Roth’s novel Deception, a Czech gentile in London asks her American Jewish lover, “Why does everyone around here hate Israel so much. Can you explain that?” Let’s grant, she says, that Israel is a terrible country. Her lover won’t grant that but she continues: “Still, there are many countries far more terrible. Yet the hostility to Israel is almost universal among the people I meet.” Why? How could that be?
He replies that it’s an article of faith among the left. They are wedded to unrealistic hopes for social justice and they resent Israel’s failure to live up to their ideals. People expect moral perfection from Israel and are appalled when Israel doesn’t deliver.
Israelis are expected to live by the highest standards and, in difficulty, “turn the other cheek.” Roth’s male character offers a shrewd point: “You criticize most harshly the people who behave best, or the least badly.”
That novel appeared 21 years ago. Since then, leftists have grown steadily angrier at Israel. Its strange destiny is to be the only open democracy in the Middle East, the only state with free speech and free judges – and to be nevertheless the favourite enemy of the Canadian left.
August 24, 2011 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #861587mikehall12382MemberThe only country that I know of, that stands 110% with Israel in recent history is Canada and it’s Prime Minister Steven Harper…
here is a quote taken directly from the Prime Minister
“Unfortunately, Israel at 60 remains a country under threat – threatened by those groups and regimes who deny to this day its right to exist … And why? Make no mistake, look beyond the thinly veiled rationalizations: Because they hate Israel, just as they hate the Jewish people.”
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he is prepared to suffer any political backlash that comes his way for speaking out against anti-Israel rhetoric.
Harper told an audience Monday that while Israel is receptive to fair criticism, Canada is obligated to stand up for its ally when it comes under attack from others.
TOO bad the US doesnt have a leader like this………….
August 24, 2011 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #861588minyan galMembermikehall, I know that Harper is an amazing supporter of Israel and I hope that his staunch support does not cost him the next election. It seems that every time Israel retaliates for acts against them, more anti-Israel supporters emerge. What really gets my goat are the groups of so-called Jews who “stand” with the “Palestinians”. They are quite vocal around here and always manage to get good press coverage. Most of the “antis” are not the types that would read The National Post and perhaps learn something. They are more the National Enquirer types. Yet they have managed to infiltrate most Canadian universities and colleges. Most of the big universities celebrate “Israel Apartheid” week. Harper cannot do this on his own and he and his party will have big challenges to face.
August 24, 2011 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #861589mikehall12382Memberminyan gal…I kow exactly what you are saying EH!
August 24, 2011 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #861590HaLeiViParticipantHow much are the Canadian people behind the Prime Minister with his Israel stance?
August 24, 2011 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #861591HachamMemberI would tend to think the Canadian public is almost about the same pro-Israel as the American public is (which is overwhelmingly the case.)
August 24, 2011 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #861592mikehall12382MemberIt didn’t hurt the Prime Minister, last election this past May he won a solid majority in the House of Commons…as for what Canadians think..I’d say similar attitude as Americans. Some don’t care, some are very anti Israel, and some support it…but I would say those that don’t care and are anti make up a strong majority.
March 21, 2012 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #861593menucha12Memberbecause israel and jews are special
eretz yisroel has been special since it was created
filled with milk and honey it has tons of special sights and views
it has different terrains it has us who live there
(we are extra special and soo humble JK LOL)
all the nations have risen against us throughout history
and we always have survived and moved on and be’ezrat hashem we will continue to
March 21, 2012 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #861594akupermaParticipantOur continued existence is a refutation of the core beliefs of Christiantiy and Islam. We were there. We are the only independent witnesses. And we say the New Testament and the Koran aren’t true by the very fact we refuse to convert.
Other than Christians and Muslims, we get along fine with the goyim.
March 21, 2012 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #861595yichusdikParticipantakuperma, I don’t always agree with you, but you are right on on this one. As Rabbi Michael Skobac, one of the leaders of Jews for Judaism out it, we are a rebuke to Christians. after all, we are the “experts” when it comes to messiahs. We introduced the concept to the world, and as long as we reject their understanding of it we are rejecting their raison d’etre, their reason for being. As for the muslims, again, our mere existence is a rebuke to their contention that we “corrupted” the Torah and killed the neviim, and that we didn’t accept their “last” prophet. Also, in the last 100 years, their countries have suffered humiliating defeats one after the other, some at the hands of the Jews. They don’t do well with humiliation.
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