- This topic has 32 replies, 19 voices, and was last updated 12 years, 9 months ago by .
-
Posts
-
remember to light a candle for R’ Elimelech M’Lizensk. anyone have the complete name?
I’m a litvak, so no. But hatzlacha rabbah.
I think more important than to light a candle is to say the tefilah of the Noam Eliemelch: that we should merit to see only the good in others and not what they are lacking. It’s a long tefliah but of course worth every word even if you are a litvack
Re bookworm: could you or someone post a link to this tefilah? Thanks.
Kapusta, Moshe Rabbeinu was bigger than the Noam Elimelech but it’s not the minhag to light for his yahrtzeit. We also say tachanun on Moshe Rabbeinu’s yahrtzeit. Why should a Rebbe be treated better than Moshe Rabbeinu?
Kapusta, this isn’t fighting, it’s arguing, and not in a squabbly way. It’s a yeshivish milchemto shel torah with no hard feelings. When Rabbi yochanan lost Reish Lakish’s chavrusashaft, he complained that his current chavrusa used to bring raayos instead of stiros. Only by arguing (again, without egos, just leshma)can one get anything clear.
His full name is Rabbi Elimelech Ben Eluzer!
Isn’t the Noam Elimelech supposed to be referred as “Rebbe Reb Meilich”?;
Boy, these men. Here I am, an almost thoroughbred Litvakess, asking for a link to the tefilla. No drama, just a sincere netiya.
Agreed kapusta, let’s discuss.
i’m an einekel!and anyways i think he said if u daven by my kever on my yartzeit i’ll go to HASHEM for u
goody613: so why didn’t you go??????????????
Actually, Kapusta, I thought better of it. A sensible discussion may deteriorate into a litvish-chassidish bashing thread. So let’s just all follow our own gedolim on this. But if you light a candle for the Noam Elimelech, you should definitely light one for Moshe Rabbeinu, who was the greatest member of Klal Yisroel ever (13 ikkarim of the Rambam, Mahara”l in Netzach Yisroel ch.3, etc).
some people refer to him as “the heilege rebbe reb meilich”. Chassidim often light candles for yurtzeits of rebbes, as a way to remember them, and to bring a little light in to teh world, as a memory of the “light” we lost when they were niftar. don’t know if they do it on 7 adar (moshe rabeinu’s yurtzeit). (they do keep a candle lit for a whole year after a parent is niftar.)
I’m sure that there are kabbilistic reasons for lighting candles but I think that the original minhag of lighting candles for a yahrtzeit is because in the days before electricity, candles were the source of light for the shul and house so it was considered a big zchus to light a candle in order that people could learn Torah. There was a concept of “Ner lamoar”. If someone wanted to learn at night he could only do this while there were candles lit so donating a candle to a shul or lighting a candle in one’s home in order to use it for Torah learning was a zchus for the neshama of the niftar. People can fulfill this nowadays by learning or donating money to a shul/yeshiva.
I went to Lizensk twice- now I’m afraid to make a chazaka cuz then I’m up the creek without a paddle 😉
also i value the chassidish point of view on the torah, i actually own a mikraos gedolos ‘meorei hachassidus’, with the classical peirushim and targumim aka Onkelos, Targum Yonasan ben Uziel, Yerushalmi, Rashi, Rashbam, Even Ezra, Seforno, Ba’al HaTurim, Or HaChayim, Rabbeinu Bachyay Sifsei Chochomim, Toldos Aharon, and the Ramban, and also a bunch of chassidishe meforshim, like Toldos Yaakov Yosef, the Degel Machane Efraim, the Noam Elimelech, Kedushas Levi (The Berditchever Rebbe, R’ Levi Yitzchok), Avodas Yisroel (Maggid from Koznitz), Meor Einayim (R’ Menachem Nachom from Chernobyl), Pri HaAretz (R’ Mendel ben R’ Moshe from Vitebsk), Ohev Yisroel (R’ Avrohom Yehoshua Heshel), and Meor VaShemesh (R’ Kelonimus Kalman HaLevi Epstein). I missde this thread over the Noam Elimelech’s yartzeit, so now I need to wait for the Rebbe’s next yartzeit to light a candle for him.
But if the yahrtzeit of the Nosm Elimelech is big, isn’t the yahrtzeit of Moshe Rabbeniu even bigger?
I will try to light a candle for many tzadikims’ yartzeits, (I couldn’t do all the yartzeits of tzadikim, B”H I’d spend all my parnossoh on yartzeit candles and matches) Moshe Rabbeinu included
Today is the Yahrtzeit, again, of the Noam Elimelech.
Another year, and more Yeridos Hadoros. We need Moshiach now! And the return of all our Gedolim to us.
“jothar litvaks can light too… cant hurt :)”
yes it can…if someone burns themselves
Make a brocho and a l’chaim.
How long ago was The Rebbe Reb Meilich niftar?
If you can explain why I should light a candle on a yahrtzeit I’ll do so. Yes, this is a general question. btw I once asked the gabbai in a chassidish shul this question after seeng hundreds (literally) of lit candles on the table. He called me a kalte litvak but he could not answer my question.
Hershi : 225 years ago ….
Just a short message from ayc: ayc is an ainekel of him, and says that the correct name is R Elimelech ben Elazar Lipman.
They had last names 250 years ago?
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.