June 18, 2012 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #603821always happy27Participant
what is the best place to go to if you want to do yeshiva and college? where its a serious place with good normal guys,good rebbeim. ( preferably near the new york area)June 19, 2012 12:03 am at 12:03 am #909567Abe CohenParticipant
Touro’s Beis Medrash program.June 19, 2012 12:32 am at 12:32 am #909568
Are you modern orthodox or baal habatish?June 19, 2012 12:38 am at 12:38 am #909569MorahRachMember
TouroJune 19, 2012 1:09 am at 1:09 am #909570jbaldy22Member
Depends on your hashkafos but your best options are ohr hachaim, landers or shaar yoshuv. ohr hachaim has the added bonus that you can go to queens college if you want and yeshiva credits taken there are considered to be full touro college credits and not transfers.
Landers has college every day instead of second seder while ohr hachaim and shaar yoshuv are two nights a week instead of night seder.June 19, 2012 3:08 am at 3:08 am #909571147Participant
Yeshiva University, as its name implies, incorporates both facets, being a Yeshiva & a university.June 19, 2012 3:22 am at 3:22 am #909572mexipalParticipant
147 if you have nothing intelligent to say please don’t talkJune 19, 2012 4:07 am at 4:07 am #909573kfbParticipant
If you want to get a job after college; go to queens college or YUJune 19, 2012 5:00 am at 5:00 am #909574Sam2Participant
Mods, can we please close this thread? Not because it’s not a legitimate question, but because this thread will take the following trajectory:
1) Someone will see a perceived attack on Touro’s academics and feel the need to defend it.
2) Someone will see a defense of Touro’s academics and feel the need to attack it.
3) Someone will see an attack on Touro and feel the need to attack YU in response.
4) A pro-YU/anti-YU flame war will commence.
5) In the middle of said flame war, random people will enter and talk about how this undefinable “Modern Orthodoxy” is the root of all evil.
6) Said flame war will continue until you mods get bored of it and close the thread.
So, why don’t we all save some time, read the last flame war thread, and just close this one now?June 19, 2012 5:48 am at 5:48 am #909575
Sam: So you are saying you are pro-YU?June 19, 2012 8:54 am at 8:54 am #909576takahmamashParticipant
Mexipal, perhaps you should take your own advice – if you don’t have a way to say something nicely, please don’t talk.June 19, 2012 10:19 am at 10:19 am #909577147Participant
Likewise you mexipal, if you have nothing intelligent to say, please don’t converse.June 19, 2012 11:20 am at 11:20 am #909578RABBAIMParticipant
Think of Ner Yisroel Baltimore and U of Maryoand, Hopkins or other great options. Eclectic chevra, massive gentle slid shiurim and Rabbaim, great facility, ability to immerse without distraction, and almost 2.5 times the scheduled # of learning hours over many other options…… 7 days a week, 42 weeks a year, 2 or 3 sedorimm a day……… reach for higher. Talmud Torah intense pounding plus earning a degree.
Solid citizens come form there………June 19, 2012 1:33 pm at 1:33 pm #909579Sam2Participant
PBA: I’m saying I don’t like flame wars.June 19, 2012 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #909580ItcheSrulikMember
pba: The flamewar will happen naturally. You don’t have to force it.June 19, 2012 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #909581jbaldy22Member
@RABBAIM Ner Yisroel is a nice yeshiva with a great learning atmosphere but is impractical for a lot of college guys – they only allow guys to take two classes per semester and the only program they have left is with towson not university of maryland. Their college program is not nearly as good as it used to be. Thats why I suggested the landers, ohr hachaim and shaar yoshuv options as those still allow 4-5 classes per semester and allow guys to finish college within a decent amount of time.June 19, 2012 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #909582akupermaParticipant
1. What do you want to do for a living? For example, to be a doctor you want to go to a “real” university, with known high standards.
An easy to obtain “Bachelor of Talmudic Law” meets requirements for jobs that have only a nominal requirement for a degree, but won’t get you far in professions with more rigorous or competitive standards.
2. Depending on majors, one can do a degree through distance education.
3. If you want to go to college to get educated (as opposed to getting access to a career), you are already off the derekh so why worry.June 19, 2012 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #909583
pba: The flamewar will happen naturally. You don’t have to force it.
That was natural. I’m the one who starts it.June 19, 2012 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #909584zahavasdadParticipant
I dont recommend YU, not because of its Hashkafa, but because of the cost. Last I heard I think it was about $40,000 a year. A four year degree will cost at least $160,000 (Probably Higher)
Queens or Brooklyn College is about $5500 a year and the 4 year degree will cost you about $25,000. You need to earn a living to pay those costs. Its alot easier to pay back $25,000 than $160,000
And no a Tuoro degree is not as good as a YU or Queens/Brooklyn College degree. If you are going to invest time and money into a degree , get a decent oneJune 19, 2012 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #909585ItcheSrulikMember
akuperma: Can we just say point 3 wasn’t sarcastic so we can have two flame wars on this thread at once?June 19, 2012 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #909586working harderMember
OP, im not going to get involved in the above hashkafah battle, just a word of advice. Be careful from places that offer “REAL bachelors” degrees in their Yeshivas. MANY colleges will NOT honor transfer credits from Excelsior, or Thomas Edison college where some yeshivas get their guys credits from.
Whichever program you choose make sure that it is an accredited respected program and will allow you to go on to a better or Graduate program should you choose.June 19, 2012 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #909587zahavasdadParticipant
+1 Working Harder…
100% on the money, Places take degrees seriously, And dont take degree mills very highly or places that dont have standards (As they define them) You might not agree with the standards, but they are there
Dont waste your money on such places, Even online college are a waste of money. Their credits are not worth the paper they are printed onJune 19, 2012 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #909588lakewhutParticipant
YU is adjusting their tuition based on family incomeJune 19, 2012 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #909589optimusprimeMember
Look into Fairleigh Dickinson University. They have a BAIS Program that will enable you to learn in a Yeshiva and take classes during Bein Hazmanim.October 22, 2012 1:09 am at 1:09 am #909590dhl144Member
wow this forum is so funny with the back and forth argueing…feels like im in HS again..LOLNovember 27, 2012 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm #909591WiseyParticipant
What about someone who is looking for a lighter yeshivah with a diversity of learning and college due to health issues caused by a history of being a supermasmid. What place would the CR population suggest for such a bachur. (this is why I am “wasting” time posting here)November 28, 2012 7:37 am at 7:37 am #909592HealthParticipant
Wisey -NIRC, Balto., Md.November 28, 2012 7:41 am at 7:41 am #909593HealthParticipant
dhl144 -“wow this forum is so funny with the back and forth argueing…feels like im in HS again..LOL”
It sure is HS or even elementary school because we get to read posts like yours with incorrect spelling. LOL! (:0
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