Yiddeshe Cancel Culture

The charedi people have had cancel culture long before the left came up with it. Just wear the wrong color shirt, that’s it, you are canceled

Some Jews who should have been cancelled:

Pablo Christiani
Shabbatai Tzvi
Jacob Frank
Karl Marx
Trotsky (Stalin did cancel him)
Bobby Fischer

“the Washington Redskins are now the WFTs”

The man who created the ‘Redskins’ nickname was George Preston Marshall, one of the most vile racists in the history of American sports. He should have been cancelled.

Bobby fischer the chess master? Why?

“open orthodox travesty”

In honor of your slander I just sent a contribution to Yeshivat Chovevei Torah.

Bobby Fischer was a brilliant chess player and probably was mental to begin with.
He then became world champion while standing up to a collective action of Soviet chess federation. This whole adverse process could crack stronger souls. Later on, Victor Korchnoi ran away from USSR and also played against the whole country – and lost, in the process claiming that his opponent was getting forbidden drinks and that a Soviet doctor was hypnotizing him. In the hindsight, now that we know about polonium teas, it is hard to say whether this was real or paranoid…

You can survive mental ordeals though. Samuel Reshevsky, who lived in Monsey, did not played on Shabbat, and, at least in later years, played in a beret, and behaved in general. Also did not always like Fischer.

lets talk about bobby fisher, really? it says that a fire will go forth from the righteous and destroy the wicked. btw you notice how cancel culture only affects republicans and not democrats.
whats wrong with black face? whats wrong with the confederate flag? slavery has nothing to do with racism, slavery existed all over the world, in Russia, and Germany, called serfs. all over arab lands.
the Japanese had Chinese slaves. idi amin had white slaves. Jefferson Davis was fighting for states rights and lincoln didn’t go to war over slavery but rather to preserve the union. i dressed up like robert e lee with the confederate flag as a kid and i’m proud of it. robert e lee did what any man should do fight for your family and friends.

@bored-guy An easier way of stating your comment is “I hate black people”.

“whats wrong with the confederate flag?”

The same thing that is wrong with thr Nazi swastika flag.

@charliehall

“ “open orthodox travesty”

In honor of your slander I just sent a contribution to Yeshivat Chovevei Torah.”

It’s not slander. They are proud of their anti torah views.

What is horrible is that you support that group that actively promotes anti Torah positions.

I don’t think there is any sane Orthodox Jew that does not accept that the Open Orthodox leadership are the very definition of reshaim.

Many of their followers are simple tinokos shenishbu, because of their lack of Jewish education.

AAQ, the common denominator of Avi Weiss and Bobby Fisher is both are / were Jewish and suffered from untreated mental health problems.
@ Nishtdan, some are tenkos the rest are lehasis

If you really knew so little about Covevei Torah, you wouldn’t comment – maybe they’re really so bad that they deserve scorn.

ujm – After reading comments in the CR for a while, I have come to a conclusion that whatever you say the opposite is almost certainly correct. So based on your comments, I have to assume YCT and OO are in-fact not apikorsum and you cannot mock them.

I take it you are a supporter of Open Orthodoxy. Sorry for my lack of knowledge about them offending you.

Charlie, what about racists in one way but not another? Woodrow Wilson, the darling of progressives, introduced Jim Crow into the previously integrated Federal civil service and even had the chutzpa to tell black leaders that it was good for them. On the other hand, as President of Princeton, he hired the university’s first Jewish professors. As POTUS, he appointed the first Jewish Supreme Court Justice (Louis Brandeis) over virulent and blatantly anti-Semitic opposition.

Avi K,

I have often written that the Progressive Movement in the early 20th century had a strong racist component to it. Wilson was just the most obvious manifestation. Wilson was indeed a vile racist although of the gentile aristocratic variety. Ironically, his widow, descended from some of the earliest settlers of Virginia, would be classified as Black by Virginia law in 1924 because she was a ninth generation descendant of Pocahontas, making her 1/512 American Indian. That was the “one drop” rule. Wilson gets credit for appointing Brandeis (a LaFollette Progressive Republican) to the Supreme Court and for vetoing a racist immigraiton law, but he also appointed James McReynolds to the Supreme Court and as you said segregating the civil service. Wilson was a rasha who did some good things for Jews. (There are numerous other examples in history: Julius Caesar and Oliver Cromwell come to mind immediately.)

But Wilson was not unique. The great accomplishment of the Progressive reformers who took over the state government of Virginia in 1901 was to institute a poll tax in order to disenfranchise black voters (and poor whites as well). Most Americans have never heard of Andrew Jackson Montague but he was the Progressive Governor who led this effort. Another big leader in this effort was the Progressive newspaperman Carter Glass, who would later become famous as the father of the Federal Reserve system and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, two major Progressive accomplishments. Virginia’s poll tax had been around since 1619. but had only been linked to voting in 1876. A miracle occurred in 1882 when a multiracial political party took control of state government and repealed that linik but the Progressives restored that link in 1902. Texas did the same at about that time, in another Progressive reform. But Montague and Glass made peace with the racist political machine they had overturned and each served decades in Congress (Glass in both houses) with the machine’s approval.

Republicans were no better. Starting about 1890, leaders of the party made systematic attempts to purge Blacks from any and all leadership roles in the Party all over the South. William Howard Taft and Herbert Hoover, who ironically were not personally racist and were also associated with progressive causes, were leaders in this effort. While the 1920 Republican Platform opposed lynching (and the Progressive Republican Governor of Kentucky managed to get a strong anti-lynching law through the legislature and even ordered the National Guard to open fire on a lynch mob), Calvin Coolidge openly sought KKK votes, two Republican KKK members were elected Governors (Indiana and Colorado). By 1936 they realized that they had alienated their most loyal voters and did a 180 degree turn; from then until 1960 the Republican Party was better on Civil Rights than the Democratic Party but Black voters never returned.

ujm – After reading comments in the CR for a while, I have come to a conclusion that whatever you say the opposite is almost certainly correct. So based on your comments, I have to assume YCT and OO are in-fact not apikorsum and you cannot mock them.

Sounds like the argument of an elementary school kid

“suffered from untreated mental health problems”

Rabbi Weiss does not need me to defend him, but it is typically people against whom he protests who have the untreated mental health problem of vile unjustified anti-Semitism. Would that more of our leaders had the courage of Rabbi Weiss.

Charlie, explain the difference, if any, between Eric Yoffie and Avi Weiss.

@UJM

For one, Yoffe does not portray himself as Orthodox, meaning no one thinks he is representing a Torah position. Weiss portrays himself and his movement as Orthodox, thereby leading many astray.

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Charlie, here are plenty of self appointed publicity hounds who think they are doing the right thing ranging for the JDO on one end to Neturie Karta on the other.

“According to our rav open orthodox are the malshinim that you have in mind in shmonei esrei.”

Your Rav seems very informed about Open Orthodoxy. Interesting. I doubt my Rav know anything more about Open Orthodoxy then something about female rabbis. Probably why I prefer my Rav. I guess there are some that prefer their Rabbi putting down others so they can feel holier than thou.

@ENS

“ I doubt my Rav know anything more about Open Orthodoxy then something about female rabbis. Probably why I prefer my Rav.”

So you prefer Rabbis that do not know what they are talking about.

And that is Emes not Sheker. Aha.

At a minimum, you should tell your rabbi that you believe he does not know what he is talking about.

Charlie, the South was NOT extremely hostile to states rights. For example, in 1832 South Carolina, under the doctrine of states rights, threatened to secede over 2 tariffs passed by Congress.

“And he causes people to go astray from the Torah.”

Yet another lie. I personally know many people whom he brought to Torah.