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June 2, 2011 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #597243shlishiMember
A moderator mentioned there are 9 year old children in the Coffee Room. (I’m not sure if he meant readers or posters.) Poster “always here” expressed shock at this revelation and indicated she doesn’t want to be having conversations here with children that are her grand-children’s age.
Is it appropriate for young children to be reading YWN or the Coffee Room? Is it appropriate that they post?
Must adult posters and moderators insure all posts are children-appropriate?
What age requirements, if any, should exist for reading or posting?
June 2, 2011 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #774681YW Moderator-80Memberthere are thousands of people who read the posts here every day. we have no control whatsoever as to who can access this site. we have no way to enforce age requirements for posting either.
we try to make sure that all posts are appropriate for all teenagers and adults. as for children it has to be left up to their parents to monitor what they read.
i am not stating any kind of official policy, only YW Editor can do that. i am just stating what i as a moderator try to accomplish, among other things.
June 2, 2011 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #774682ZeesKiteParticipantModerator meant posters. Hi everyone, Mommy lets me roam here freely!
Did I post anything inappropriate?
June 2, 2011 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #774683ravshalomParticipantDo you actually get multiple thousands of hits from unique IP addresses in the Coffee Room each day?
June 2, 2011 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #774684bptParticipantThere’s no way of knowing the age of CR readers, but kind of like the “grandma rule” if its fit to be read in the CR (or using terms that are pareve enough to satisfy the mods) then I think if a child has internet access, they will be safe here.
No guarantees about what happens in other sites, but the CR is a safe haven.
My personal hunch? That other poster was just trolling or campaigning. That’s why he was sent packing.
June 2, 2011 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #774685☕️coffee addictParticipantsince I can’t post in this in the thread which we are talking about (the one with the troll)
I wanted to tell the Editor,
From the original post it sounded like a “Joseph”
June 2, 2011 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #774686YW Moderator-80Memberno he was neither a joseph, nor the joseph
people are starting to see joseph everywhere
he is becoming a legend, or like elvis
June 2, 2011 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #774687YW Moderator-80Memberpretty soon we will return to the days of Mcarthyism.
there will be accusations and denunciations of being joseph
the trials will begin
blackballing will ensue
June 2, 2011 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #774688adorableParticipantmod 80- can you talk to mod 42 so that you both make up stories that make sense and not ones that contradict each other.
June 2, 2011 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #774689YW Moderator-80Memberwhat is the contradiction?
June 2, 2011 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #774690shlishiMemberadorable: How old are you? I was wondering if you’re the 9 year old poster the mod referred to. (I hope you don’t mind my asking.)
June 2, 2011 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm #774691adorableParticipanthe said that pacman and some others are joseph and you say they are not. HONESTY IS A MUST
June 2, 2011 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #774692YW Moderator-80Memberpacman and some others, (canine is a recent one) most certainly ARE joseph
where did i say they werent?
coffee addict was referring to ‘michaelc”
June 2, 2011 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #774693adorableParticipantOh i got it. Thank you for clarifying. why do you let them back on here?
June 2, 2011 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #774694adorableParticipanthow many email address’s does the guy have? why are you letting him post? now i dont feel so bad that I was under attack from him the other day, after all what can you expect from Joseph?
June 2, 2011 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #774695adorableParticipantshlishi- I am insulted
June 2, 2011 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #774696gefenParticipantI am so funcused by the last few posts!
But anyway, back to the topic at hand, if any of my kids were 9, i would not allow them to roam freely on the internet – not even on ywn. my youngest is 16 and they know how i feel about the internet in general – B”H they feel the same way. only appropriate websites are visited by our family.
but it is a good point that if whatever goes up on the cr is appropriate for teens and adults, it should be ok for younger ones too. after all, this is a frum website. there should be no allowances for anything inappropriate here.
then again, i feel like always, i wouldn’t want to be talking to a 9 yr. old here. however i do understand that there’s no way to control that.
BTW – WHAT IN THE WORLD IS “TROLLING”? i’m sure after being on the cr for this long, i should know that by now and this prob sounds like a dumb question.
June 2, 2011 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #774697always hereParticipantI think that pacman/canine/joseph styles are quite easy to discern, IMO.
as far as young ones participating in the CR: yes, I was pretty shocked. (actually, my oldest grandchildren are 6 3/4 y.o., but 9 y.o. technically could be).
do you really think that YWN parents allow their young (under bas/bar mitzvah age) children to read, & possibly post, here in the CR?!
& no, I don’t think it’s appropriate for them to be here.
June 2, 2011 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #774698bptParticipantBTW – WHAT IN THE WORLD IS “TROLLING”?
It may have other meanings as well, but I use it to describe the action of posting with the sole intent of stirring up controversy. That, and posting topics that are sure to bring on loshon horah, nivul peh, ect.
June 2, 2011 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #774699HAKOL TOVMemberI think it’s sad that theyre 9 year olds roaming this place. What has this world come to? That such young kids can freely roam the internet…how sad…
June 2, 2011 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #774700YW Moderator-80Membercomes from a fishing term, trolling for fish
you put the bait in the water, lean back and wait for the fish to bite
June 2, 2011 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #774701always hereParticipantah, Mod 80, I wish I was trolling (for fish) right now!! *sigh*
June 2, 2011 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #774702YbAMMemberModerator-80:
More specifically, you slowly drag the bait, as if it was a living thing (something sincere in the case of a forum) to fool the fish (posters).
The origin of the term, from “trolling” is why I, in my overly precise way, insist on calling such people “trollers” rather than “trolls” since the former is “one who trolls” and the latter is a mythical Norse beast who lives under a bridge.
But usage demands that “troll” is correct so I recognize the quixotic nature of my complaint.
June 2, 2011 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #774703gefenParticipantbpt,mod80, and YbAM – thanks for explaining that.
June 2, 2011 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #774704always hereParticipantYbAM~ yes, you are technically correct. (thanks for your post).
June 2, 2011 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #774705YW Moderator-80Memberif precision is your forte
the norse mythical trolls were said to live in mountains and caves
the grimm brothers started the under the bridge thing
June 2, 2011 9:01 pm at 9:01 pm #774706adorableParticipantmod- you forgetting to speak ENGLISH
June 2, 2011 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #774707TheGoqParticipantI don’t want to read posts that are immature, i will write them yes but read them no thanks
June 2, 2011 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #774708YbAMMemberModerator-80:
Which suggests a question… What do Coffee Room trolls live under?
June 2, 2011 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #774709always hereParticipanthas anyone, besides myself, seen ‘The Fremont Troll’ in Seattle, WA.? .. it’s a huge sculpture under the Aurora bridge. 🙂
June 2, 2011 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #774710YW Moderator-80Memberadorable
look up the words you dont understand
you will thereby improve your literary skills
June 2, 2011 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #774711adorableParticipantits ok. i would rather not try to figure it out and waste my brain cells for that
June 2, 2011 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #774712ursula momishMemberGoq: how do you know a post is immature until you’ve read it? See–this looked ok until now. Nyah, nyah! 🙂
Well, people are always talking about getting children to read and improving their writing skills, so really how can we complain when posting involves both?
Truthfully, though, we don’t let our kids use the computer, even though they would probably understand it much better than I do and they would write more coherently, too.
June 2, 2011 9:11 pm at 9:11 pm #774713real-briskerMemberThe Internet is open to the public, If the 9 year old kids are on the net without parents knowledge then they can be going anywhere, and this place would be safer then many many others. And if it is with parents knowledge, then obviously the parents let them read the posts.
June 2, 2011 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #774714always hereParticipantadorable~ are you kidding or serious? .. I can’t tell.
June 2, 2011 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #774715ZeesKiteParticipantgefen: “i wouldn’t want to be talking to a 9 yr. old here”
So. You don’t want to talk to me? (Well at least Mommy taught me to capitalize the “i”, unless you’re doing it out of modesty.)
June 2, 2011 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #774716Mother in IsraelMemberHow did the mods know my age? I just turned 9 this week.
June 2, 2011 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #774717ZeesKiteParticipantMother in Israel: I think it says somewhere that you can’t become a mother under a certain age. My Mommy told me that. Thats how I knew she was older than twelve when I was born. (Besides, I know all the kids in my class, you don’t fit in)
June 2, 2011 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #774718bptParticipantSo, some of you are 9? Ok, lets take a quick test:
Who is more popular, Hello Kitty or Hannah Bananna?
June 2, 2011 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #774719Midwest2ParticipantWho is Joseph? What has he done to become a legend in his own time? Is he a missionary, a political operative, malicious, or just a plain head case? What are the main characteristics of a “Joseph” post? Is he a relative of “Rufruf,” the only “canine” poster I can think of?
Please solve this mystery for me 🙂
June 2, 2011 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #774720gregaaronMember@(9yr old)Mother in Israel:
Apparently (no pun intended), being on the internet is not your biggest problem…:-p
June 2, 2011 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #774721Midwest2Participantbpt – It isn’t Hannah Banana, it’s Hannah Montana, and I think she’s way cool. Hello Kitty is so last decade.
June 3, 2011 12:24 am at 12:24 am #774722HaLeiViParticipantHe is no relative of RuffRuff. He’s somebody that made himself many usernames and aroused the editor’s ire.
I think it did lead to McCarthyism, quadragintinity, blockings, deletions, editings, and folklore.
June 3, 2011 12:25 am at 12:25 am #774723HaLeiViParticipantTo those who didn’t get MII’s quip, read the dry eyes thread.
June 3, 2011 12:32 am at 12:32 am #774724gefenParticipantzeeskite – yes i’m very modest (and shy) 😉
soooooo….. ur 9 yrs. old? how cute! i’m glad ur mommy let’s u talk on the cr. she must be soooooo nice. so since ur 9, i’m not gonna talk to u anymore k? bye bye. btw – have any bridges to sell? 🙂
June 3, 2011 12:44 am at 12:44 am #774725kapustaParticipantits ok. i would rather not try to figure it out and waste my brain cells for that
Oh, you’re makin’ it so hard to keep quiet. 😉
June 3, 2011 2:00 am at 2:00 am #774726LemonySnicketParticipantI remember from a few years back (when I was still a lurked) there was this character named Moshe Rose who would also draw the ire of everyone. Is he/it Joseph as well?
June 3, 2011 2:18 am at 2:18 am #774727wanderingchanaParticipantShould we be talking about quadragintinity with 9 y.o.s around??
June 3, 2011 5:17 am at 5:17 am #774728always hereParticipantI had commented in the past, when I felt a strong young-ish teen presence on board, that perhaps there should be a ‘cocoa room’ section of the CR.
Mod~ altho’ you said that anyone can read the posts, is there at least a minimum age for actually signing up/registering as a CR member? … TIA
June 3, 2011 10:50 am at 10:50 am #774729chocandpatienceMemberalways here: “Mod~ altho’ you said that anyone can read the posts, is there at least a minimum age for actually signing up/registering as a CR member? … TIA”
How could that be enforced?
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