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July 20, 2012 4:38 am at 4:38 am #1125211pcozMember
An oldie but a goodie..
When the benei yisrael travelled, the mishkan was not re-assembled in the same place that it was dismantled.
Nevertheless there is an opinion in shabbos 31 that with regards to the melacha of soser (destroying a building), you are only chayav if it is soser al menos livnos bimekomo – you will rebuild the building in the same place.
Seeing as we learn the 39 melachos from the mishkan – and seeing that reagrding the mishkan, the structure was not rebuilt in the same place – how could this be a limitation in the melacha?
The answer is that seeing as the benei yisroel travelled with the shechina – they were always ‘in the same place’ – next to the shechina. Their physical location was inconsequential to them compared to their closeness to Hashem.July 22, 2012 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #1125212nossondMember
Infinity, Zero, and Yesh Maayin
(This dvar Torah is so fundamental, please feel free to copy and distribute.)
Infinity and zero are opposites. Zero, more down to earth, is somewhat more manageable than infinity, but both are transcendental incomprehensible opposite forces, the eternal versus the void.
Mathematically, infinity and zero have unusual qualities. Unlike standard numbers, zero times or divided by any number is still zero, and infinity times or divided by any number is still infinity.
What does all this mean? HaShem is the infinite, the eternal spiritual source. Only one thing can bring forth something from nothing. Infinity times zero does not equal zero or infinity; it equals any number. When there was nothingness, tohu vavohu, everything could and did come forth. The infinite can do that to the void. Moreover, dividing something by the infinite is the source of complete limitation, complete nothingness. Ain od milvado. Divide something by HaShem and there is nothing. Divide something by nothing and it is infinite.
By Nosson Dovid H
Lakewood NJJuly 22, 2012 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1125213nossondMember
It just occurred to me to add the following:
We can now explain a well known portion of Tehilim (with a twist).August 31, 2012 5:05 am at 5:05 am #1125214sam4321Participant
What happened to this thread,any new vorts(baalhabooze?).August 31, 2012 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1125215
Here is a link to another thread with divrei torah on Ki Seitzei.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/%d7%a4%d7%a8%d7%a9%d7%aa-%d7%94%d7%a9%d7%91%d7%95%d7%a2#post-295551September 7, 2012 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1125217
PARSHAS KI SAVO
“Yitein Hashem Es Oivecha HaKamim Alecha Nigafim Lifanecha.” (Ki Savo 28:7)
Hashem promises us that if we do the mitzvos, the enemies that rise up against us will fall before us. Rav Shimon Schwab asks, “If we are doing Hashem’s wishes and are clearly blessed, why would an enemy be foolish enough to wage war with us?”
He answers that it is part of the teva, the nature of the world, that Sheker despises Emes, bad hates good, and Tumah confronts Tahara. Whether they will be victorious or suffering a crushing defeat, the enemy will attack its natural enemy.
“This,” says Rav Schwab, “explains Milchemes Gog U’Magog. Although during that time Hashem’s glory will be revealed openly to the entire world, nevertheless Gog U’Magog will gather their troop to wage war Al Hashem V’Al Moshicho. Although bad will never stop attacking good, we should all be zocheh to see the day that they will no longer be successful.”September 19, 2012 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #1125218
My 6 yr old son told me a cute pshat in shofar during a Rosh Hashana seuda, one that I never heard before.
The Soton knows that when Moshiach comes, the great shofar will sound, and Hashem will ??? the Soton for good. So when it is Rosh Hashana, Hashem in His everlasting rachamim, commanded us to blow the shofar, this way the Soton shudders and runs and hides (thinking that perhaps Moshiach arrived), and now when Hashem sits to judge the soton is not around to prosecute!September 24, 2012 2:34 am at 2:34 am #1125219
Oh please, the soton is a bit smarter than that. Also, why doesn’t blowing during the year make the soton hide?September 24, 2012 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1125220
maybe he does….
when someone pulls a trigger, even if you know that there are only blanks in the gun, there is still a natural tendency to cringe. no matter how many times it’s done. pshat is, that when someone’s life is on the line, you cringe/hide/shidder.September 24, 2012 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm #1125221
He may involuntarily cringe but not run and hide for enough time for us to get our tefilos in. Also, since he is a malach, a semi-divine being, he is completely controlled by his own intellect and not bound to the natural emotions and instinctive reactions that humans are. Therefore he probably wouldn’t even cringe/shudder.
(I hope nobody minds a bit of “out of the box” thinking)September 25, 2012 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #1125222
There was once a person who approached someone who raised turkeys and wished to purchase one. He agreed to sell him, but in 3 months time. After the time was up he purchased the nice large turkey, and the farmer pointed out, “remember the small turkeys 3 months ago? Look how nice and fat they are!”
The person said, “In all honesty they are really nice and big, but I was surprised at the amount of time. I mean 1-2 weeks okay, 3 weeks maybe, but what in the world takes 3 months??”
The farmer chuckled and with a wave of the hand said, “Mine aren’t raised like all the other turkeys you’ll find. Mine are the very best, the juciest, and delicious tasting turkeys. the other farmers out there just stuff the turkey with food for 2-3 weeks straight, and inject them with growth hormones etc. The way I raise them, is much differently! I starve them for 2 weeks, then stuff them for 2 weeks then starve them for 2 weeks and stuff them for 2 weeks. By the third month they have such an appetite, i let them eat themselves, and they eat so much, i don’t have to inject them or overstuff them, they do it themselves, and now are the most fattest and juciest turkeys.
A person’s heart breaks on Y”K and he does teshuva for all the sins he committed, and promises never to do it again. The Yeitzer Hara says, great! let him starve for 2 weeks. Then about a couple of weeks after Sukkos, he goes back to his bad ways. Next Y”K comes and he starves himself. Eat Starve Eat Starve Eat Starve…..you see where this is going..
After 120 years we will get to the Bais Din shel maalah, they will find you to be the juciest turkey, steeped in cheit, and worse then we can ever imagine!
when one does teshuva you have to realize it is a loooong process and is imperative to erase all delights and pleasurable feelings from cheit from one’s heart so that we NEVER go back to the old ways. Otherwise we become one big fat turkey in the hands of the Yeitzer Hara to feast on.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/yom-kippur-thoughts#post-407763October 3, 2012 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1125223
Since this is supposed to be for nightly Divrei Torah and none are appearing I’ll stick one in off the top of my head- Usually we pour wine on the mizbeach but on sukkos we also pour water why? Because going through the whole year we have been doing aveiros and are red like wine but after getting a chance to do Teshuvah we are clean and clear like water.
(comments would greatly be appreciated so that this thread would resemble a virtual beis medrash with pilpul flying back and forth and not a silent beis hakvaros)October 4, 2012 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1125224
I think you can learn a mussar vort from the blackening of the aravos.
We see that someone without taste or smell (chochmah or yiras shomayim) as soon as he is cut off from the tree of life and not kept in water (Torah) he withers away.
Also the elongated aravos represent the mouth when it is closed the way it should be.
Also I was wondering how someone could have Torah and not maasim tovim or the reverse(???? ??????) if the Mishnah in Avos says “?? ??? ???? ??? ???? ??? ??? ???? ??? ????’October 5, 2012 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #1125225
Moshe Rabeinu was the greatest prophet to have ever lived and achieved closeness to HaShem that is insurmountable. However, upon Moshe’s death in VeZos HaBracha, he gets what seems to be a mere two-word eulogy; ‘and Moshe died there EVED HASHEM…’ (32;5). This was the question bothering Rav Elchonon Wasserman which he addressed in his eulogy of the Chofetz Chaim. Rav Elchonon said that the words ‘eved HaShem’ are the greatest accolade that a person can be given…
For we have a halacha that ‘that which is owned by a servant is owned by his master’ (eg if my servant picked up a lost object I am the object’s owner). Thus, said Rav Elchonon, the Torah calling Moshe Rabeinu an ‘eved HaShem’ meant that any talent, skill, and all aspects of Moshe’s life were spent using them for his Master, HaShem. That was a greatness of Moshe, and is a high level that we can emulate in our own ways.
Sometimes two words can be more elequent than even 1000.
There is a joke that they say: Shmerel went to borrow a horse from his neighbor, Berel. “Sure, you can borrow my horse,” replies Berel. “But one thing you have to know about this horse. He is trained to start when you say ‘Baruch Hashem’ (thank God) and he stops when you say ‘Shema Yisrael’.” So Shmerel gets on the horse and practices. “Baruch Hashem” he says, and the horse breaks into a trot. “Shema Yisrael” he announces, and sure enough, the horse stops. After practicing a few times, he feels confident and begins his journey. As he is riding along a road, he sees that the road ends up ahead with a steep cliff. Suddenly Shmerel realizes that he has forgotten the word needed to make the horse stop. “Ashrei yoshvei vetecha,” he squeaks desperately. The horse keeps going. “Um – Adon Olam” he intones. The horse keeps going. “Eh – Aleinu L’shabeiach.” But the horse keeps galloping. Now fearful that he is about to die, Shmerel does what any good Jew would do when confronted with certain death. He screams out, “Shema Yisrael.” As trained, the horse stops suddenly — barely two feet from the edge of the cliff. Shaking like a leaf, Shmerel pulls out his handkerchief and wipes the sweat from his forehead. “Whew !!” he exclaims, “Baruch Hashem !!”
(ShortVort.com)October 5, 2012 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #1125226YW BandMember
Here is a mix from my Rav, Guest speaker & Rebbe:
There are 2-4 mitzvos which you can do with your whole body: Succah, Yeshuv Eretz Yisroel (My Rav added Mikvah & Bias Bais Hamikdash because he is chassidish & these arent actually mitzvos but its the way to get to it-hechsher). The lowest part of the body is the foot. The malbish (ornament) of the foot is the shoes. One is not all allowed to wear shoes in the BH”M. The question is: how can you wear shoes in the succah if it’s on the same level of the BH”M, is the succah more kodesh? The answer is in a way it is. Hashem wants us to be m’taher the whole guf!
The gemara says: “Usid HB”H lasos machul (circle) l’tzadikim”. Why a circle? Because in a circle, nobody is ahead of each other, we’re all together as 1 unit (achdus). So there is no greater way of showing this greatness than by dancing with your feet which have shoes on them in a circle on Simchas Torah!!!
May we have this in mind during hakafos & at other simchos as well & serve Hashem with kol gufo! Gut Shabbos & Moed!October 5, 2012 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #1125227
Can you explain why if a succah is more koydesh it is permitted to wear shoes?October 10, 2012 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1125228
The Rambam in Hilchos Ishus Perek ?? Halacha ? discusses one who is so attached to the Torah like Ben Azzai that he is patur from getting married and having children. The Rambam says that if his Yetzer harah is overcoming him causing him to be attracted to women he must get married to subdue his desires. I considered this amazing that someone at such a madreigah can still have such problems. This is a chizuk to those who have done aveiros and feel that this makes them “nobodies”
P.S. Note even the Vilna Gaon got married.
P.S.S. I thought that love of Torah and physical desires contradict each other?
P.S.S. Note even Moshe Rabeinu got married and only separated because of his prophetic status.October 12, 2012 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #1125229
(ShortVort.com)October 15, 2012 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #1125230goldersgreenerParticipant
Only koihanim are not allowed to wear shoes in beis hamikdosh when they do avoida. A regular person may.October 15, 2012 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #1125231
I saw a nice pshat this past shabbos.
Rashi says that the reason why by the first day of creation it says “Va’yehi Erev Va’yehi Boker Yom Echad” and not Yom Rishon, as the sequence from the other days of the week goes (yom sheni, shlishi, etc), is because since Hashem created spiritual beings (malachim) on the second day, He was therefore the only living Being around, it was Yom Echad, the day of the One.
It always bothered me, why was this so important to say? and if he wasn’t, if malachim were created on that first day. then what? then he’s NOT echad (c”v)? What lesson, yesod, principle do we glean from this that it was “the day of the One”??
So I actually saw in a sefer called Pri Dovid an answer to this question. That it is to tell us something extremely fundamental to our yiddishkeit and hashkofo. He cites different seforim who tell us that He created this world out of Goodness, and that it was created solely for the benefit of Man. Hashem Himself has zero benefit per se and was totally unaffected with His Handiwork. The same Hashem as we know Him now, was the same Hashem before the world came into existance. He is totally out of the realm of space and time and everything else we have in this universe.
This perhaps is what the torah was teaching us on Yom Echad. He was the same one Hashem,even after the world came into being, without any change, benefit, or affect. It was “rak v’ach” a creation for the sole benefit of mankind.October 26, 2012 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #1125232
Why on earth is the story of Avrom being thrown into the furnace by Nimrod, NOT in the parsha, whereas the test of Lech Lecha (a seemingly LESS of a nisayon) IS in the parsha?
So I heard from Rabbi Wallerstein (Torah Anytime.com) that the explanation is lke this. The torah is not a history book, to tell us stories stam azoy. If a story is brought down in the torah it is to teach us something, and if a story is NOT brought down it is because Hashem didn’t want it in the torah.
Pshat here can be explained via a beautiful phrase:
It is easier to GIVE UP one’s life ‘al kiddush Hashem’ then for one to LIVE ‘al kiddush Hashem’.
To die ‘al kiddush Hashem’ is a tremendous act of bravery, courage, and strenghth. However it is all over in 1 minute. Once the person is dead, the game is over. That’s all nice, no doubt, and he will get Olam Habbah for that. But Hashem is not interested in putting the whole episode of Uhr Kassdim in His torah JUST to teach us that yeharog v’al ya’avor for Avodah Zora. What Hashem IS interested in, is the ‘lech lecha me’artzecha’, the ‘U’mibeis avicha’, the daily struggles of LIVING al kiddush Hashem. THAT’S what is special in Hashem’s eyes! The davening 3 tefillos EVERY SINGLE DAY with minyon, the wearing tzniyosdik clothing- even on a hot summer’s day, the setting aside time every day for your daily shiur or chavrusa, the times we stop ourselves from speaking L”H, or taking revenge. It is the LIVING ‘al kuddush Hashem’, that takes center stage in the torah. And that’s the lesson of Lech Lecha.November 4, 2012 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1125235
BaalHabooze has requested that I give a dvar torah, so here it is.
This is in the zchus of BaalHabooze, may he be a marbitz torah
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R’ Moshe Shternbuch writes, in his sefer Ta’am V’daas, That the passuk does not tell us what exactly Avraham said during his eulogy.
Rashi here says “the years of Sarah’s life were all equally good”.
What exactly is Rashi trying to convey here to us?
R’ Shturnbuch explains that often people change their behavior and/or their views in order to conform with their surroundings, and in order to be respected by people. Sometimes people even work on themselves and climb up to a high madreiga, only to return to their previous level after a short time.
Sarah Imeinu, however, was different. All her years were equally good. This is the ultimate praise once can receive. That at every opportunity, in every place, with every person, she remained a tzaddeikes.
This is the true tzaddik, one who never sways from their tziddkus and who always acts with true righteousness.November 5, 2012 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #1125236
Yasher koach, JayMatt19!! Very much appreciated, and if anybody else has a nice vort on the parsha, please feel free to share your thoughts here, we would be delighted to read them.November 11, 2012 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #1125237
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The Meforshim ask, why is it only now, after Eisav asks to eat “from the red stuff” is he given the name, or title, Edom? Certainly he could very well have been called this from birth, where we are 1st told that he is a redhead.
The Midrash teaches us that Shmuel HaNavi was afraid when he 1st met Dovid (HaMelech). He did not want him to be king since he was a redhead, since it is a sign of one who is a ???? ????, a murderer.
Hashem tells Shmuel that Dovid is Kosher, and the signs that Shmuels sees about murder refer to actions done correctly and through Beis Din.
So lets apply that here. Once Eisav is born, we see that he has a pull towards being a rasha and a murderer, on the other hand, he can easily use his kochos for good and be a Tzaddik Gamor, like Dovid Hamelech. For this reason, he wasnt called Edom initially, rather Eisav, from the loshon ????, which apparently has nice implications.
However, once Eisav comes back from the field and acts the way he does for some food. Now we see which way he is going, now we see that he isn’t interested in using his kochos for the good like Dovid Hamelech. Now that we know that his kochos will be used for evil he will be referred to him as Edom, the name indicating blood and murder.
(R’ Shaul Katzenelbogen, from Vilna)November 22, 2012 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1125239
here’s a nice vort by Rabbi Frand from torah.org
Where did this Tzadik, Yaakov, go after he left Beer Sheva? Our Sages say that he went to study for 14 years in the Yeshiva of Shem and Ever. This is a strange thing. Until now, Yaakov has also been sitting and learning. Now it is time to go — time to go into exile. So what does he do? He goes and sits and learns literally day and night for another 14 years!
Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky says that Yaakov had something to learn, and that is why he had to go to the Yeshiva of Shem and Ever. We all know that the holy patriarchs had their own schools of learning. The Talmud [Yoma 28b] says that our patriarchs constantly had their own Yeshivas. But, nevertheless Yaakov had something specific to gain from the Yeshiva of Shem and Ever. What was it?
Shem was the one who withstood the Generation of the Flood. He had a “special Torah” to teach — the Torah of how to exist in a hostile society, one filled with theft and immorality and corruption. Ever was the one who withstood the heresy of the Generation of the Dispersion (at the Tower of Babel). He, too, had a special Torah to teach.
So now, when Yaakov knew that he was going into Exile, to live with the deceitful Lavan, he had to learn a “different Torah” than he had learned with his father and his grandfather. He had to learn how a Jew survives in Exile, outside the Land of Israel. That is why he had to go to the Yeshiva of Shem and Ever.
Rash”i cites that all that Yaakov learned in the Yeshiva of Shem and Ever he gave over to Yosef. It was this Torah of how a Jew exists in a hostile society, that Yaakov had to give to Yosef, specifically. For Yosef also went down to a hostile environment (Egypt). He, too, needed this “special Torah.”November 29, 2012 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #1125241
Reb Shimshon of Ostropol says a cute vort. We say every day in davening ???? ???????, and the word ???? is Gematria 677. There were 3 Malachim who were constantly helping the ????. They were ????? ?????? and ???????. These 3 malachim were the ???? of the Ovos. As a matter of fact the gematria of ????? ?????? and ??????? is , you guessed it, 677! The pasuk says that Yaakov sent malachim/messengers to Eisav. Rash”i says these messengers were ?????? ???. The letters in the word ??? can stand for these 3 malachim, ????? ?????? and ???????.December 7, 2012 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #1125242
The pasuk says that Yosef told his father the bad things that his brothers were doing. One of the examples that Rashi gives is that he claimed that the brothers were eating ??? ?? ??? (a limb torn off from a live animal) which is one of the seven mitzvos bnei noach. The question is why were the brothers doing this?
The Sifsei Chachamim brings an answer that they would remove a piece of meat from the animal after it was shechted, but still moving. This Yosef misunderstood as ??? ?? ??? because he didn’t see the shechitah.
My problem with this is that how could Yosef accuse his brothers of this aveirah without truly investigating the situation?
I heard an explanation that this machlokes was based on a fundamental question whether the Avos and the Sh’vatim were jews or bnei noach. The brothers held that they were jews and for a jew once an animal is shechted it is considered dead but Yosef was of the belief that they were all bnei noach for which the gemara and poskim say that shechitah plays no roll and death of an animal is when it has stopped moving. We see Yosef’s shitah at the incident with Aishes Potifar where Yosef says “?????? ???????.” Rashi notes that this is because even bnei Noach are assur in ?????. We see that acc. to Rashi, Yosef’f shitah was that he was a ben noach.
With this idea I would like to explain more about the debate between Yosef and his brothers.
As explained before, one of the Mitzvos Bnei Noach is Arayos. However, it is muttar for a non-jew to marry two sisters. This particular Ervah isn’t included in the mitzvah for bnei noach. According to Yosef, the talmid muvhak of Yakov, it was permitted for his father to marry both Rachel and Leah. However, acc. to his brothers the marriage to Rachel, the second sister, was Assur and invalid thereby making Yosef a mamzer.
Also, according to the other Sh’vatim the children of Bilha and Zilpa were ?????. This is because when a jew(Yakov) marries a non-jew or shifchah the status of the child follows its mother. Yosef however held that since they were all Bnei Noach and there was no such thing as Kiddushin the child therefore follows the father (according to the rules of lineage explained in Kiddushin daf :??). Therefore, Yosef befriended them since they were children of Yakov, but the other brothers considered them avadim and Yosef to be a mamzer.December 7, 2012 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #1125243
I am particularly interested to know what the CR population holds of my chidush especially since I might say it tomorrow at Shalosh Seudos.December 11, 2012 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #1125244
Wisey – Wondering how your dvar torah went. It definitely was a chiddush IMHO to suggest the brothers considered Yosef to be a mamzer- never saw that one brought down anywhere. Interesting theory though.
Anyone have a nice vort on Chanukah?December 11, 2012 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #1125245
The following is from a sefer I have called “Midrashei HaMoadim” a collection of Midrashim on numerous Yomim Tovim
Why do we recite Hallel on Chanukah?
Since it says in Tehlllim (and we recite in Hallel) ?? ?’ ???? ???
For Hashem, He has illuminated for us, in reference to our being saved.
So why then don’t we say Hallel on Purim? After all, the salvation of Purim was both a spiritual and physical salvation.
So why Hallel on Chanukah and not Purim?
We only say Hallel when there is the downfall of the nation who is subjugating us. We say it on Pesach due to the downfall of Paroh and Mitzraim, We say it on Chanukah due to the downfall of the Greeks. After Pesach and Chanukah, we are finally able to be avodim to HKBH, and not to some enemy king.
Purim, however, despite the amazing salvation which we were granted, we were still in galus under the rule of King Achashverosh
(?????? ???? ?)December 12, 2012 12:59 am at 12:59 am #1125246longarekelMember
That is a gemara in megilla 14a. There are other explanations there as well. Interesting that the Rambam says that the reading of the megilla is the hallel, like another explanation in the gemara. Even more interesting is that based on that, the Meiri says that if one does not have a megilla he should recite hallel. We do not pasken like that.December 12, 2012 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm #1125247
Just out of curiosity, does the gemara quote the midrash I quoted? The midrashim predate the gemara, so I’d imagine that the gemara makes its statement prefacing that it is a Tanaic statementDecember 12, 2012 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #1125248
I was looking at the Sifsei Chaim on Moadim (Chelek Beis) today, and I saw a vort which I’d like to share.
The following was quoted in the name of the Ponovicher Rov.
Why do we give “Chanukah Gelt”? Where does this Minhag come from?
After the Greeks were defeated, we were now able to resume Torah study. But how do you get children to study torah, especially after not have learned Torah for such time? How do you instill within them a desire to learn and show them the sweetness of Torah?
How did they do it? The bribed them with small amounts of money.
The Gra, quoting pirkei avos ???? ??? ???? ?? ????. Money was given to the children who learned, helping them develop a sweetness for Torah. Afterall, they were getting money for it!
Therefore the Chanukah Gelt is a remembrance of the money given to the children in an effort to get them to view learning Torah in a positive light.December 13, 2012 1:38 am at 1:38 am #1125249longarekelMember
“The midrashim predate the gemara”. Where did you get that from?
The chanuka gelt vort is cute, but I’m not sure that’s how it was 2200 years ago. The simplest reason is to make them happy since children don’t participate in any other way on chanuka (especially in homes where only the baal habayis lights, like by the sefardim).December 13, 2012 4:46 am at 4:46 am #1125250
You might not be sure that is how it was done 2200 years ago, but the Ponovicher Rov, as well as the Sifsei Chaim were, and therefore said the pshat and quoted the pshat.
Nice backhanded way of arguing on it, btw.
As for how I know that midrashim predate the gemarra, Midrashim are from tanaiim, The gem area was closed at the end of the amoraim period, generations later. The gemarra even discusses Midrashim and who authored them
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“??? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ?????”.December 13, 2012 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #1125251
The battle of Chanukah although blessed with temporary victory in the days of the Chashmonaim, never really ended – it continues to this very day. It was essentially a struggle against the forces that had set as their goal to assimilate the Jewish masses by subturfuge and internal subversion. Thus, we find no specific command of ‘Simcha’ on Chanukah since this battle to confuse and betray true Yiddishkeit still rages in our times, and while engulfed in the smoke of battle one does not pause to rejoice. In such a continuing crisis, one must concentrate with greater vigor towards the Geulah goal: total Torah commitment must replace tokenism; complete consecration must replace crippling compromise.
– Rabbi Moshe Sherer zt”l (Former President of Agudas Yisroel)December 14, 2012 12:04 am at 12:04 am #1125252
I may have heard this from someone a long time ago but i think I just thought of it. The neiros of chanukah represent the ongoing attempts of the goyim to seperate us from our torah. Eventhough they are successful with many people, there is always a single “jug of oil” the members of klal yisroel that continue the transmission of torah. The neis is that eventhough this mesorah should have been extinguished long ago, the fickering ?? ????? lasts forever, until the arrival of new oil ????? ??????.
P.S. I’m curious if anyone knows a source for this.
Baal Habooze- I think it went well.December 17, 2012 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #1125253
Belated Chanukah vort
I thought of this on Shabbos Chanukah Parshas Mikeitz.
Then, we reach a tremendous high, as Yosef is now not only free he is crowned as the second to most powerful in the land. That parallels another high in the Chanukah story where the yidden not only got freedom back to learn torah and do mitzvohs but were even zoiche to a neis with the pach shemen.December 17, 2012 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #1125254
I left out one part in the previous vort. There is another “high” similarity between the two.December 20, 2012 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #1125255aHeiligeYidMember
From ZK, er… A BP Yid
A Vayeishev/ Chanukah Shabbos Shmooze for the Oliam from a few years ago…
Vayeishev – Chanukah, 5767
At the tender age of seventeen, Yosef the beloved, pampered and protected favourite son of Yackov became Yosef the despised, enslaved and confronted castaway. Sold by his own flesh and blood into an endless hopeless nightmare, challenged and threatened both physically and spiritually, he not only survived but climbed the rungs of society to become the longest reigning Jewish monarch in history! What could possibly have been his secret to success?
Although the discussion with the helpful onlooker seems rather unremarkable, there are a couple of fascinating insights that show this event was not to be taken on face value. Firstly, since the Midrash enlightens us that the man he met was in fact the angel Gabriel, there was surely a deeper purpose for his appearance than simply to be a celestial road map. Secondly, what could the Torah possibly mean with the superfluous word ” saying” within the possuk of “a man asked him, saying, “What do you seek?”
Yosef was not the only one that took this message to heart and used these otherwise crushing challenges as a catalyst to greatness. Our great Chanukah heroes used this same thought process hundreds of years later to crush the mighty Greeks. With the future of Torah values being challenged, they entered a hopeless war with the “what must be morally done” weapon and defeated the entire Greek army. As we physically kindle the lights on Chanukah we must lovingly rekindle our spiritual flame of burning dedication to the legacy of our heroically devout ancestors.
Gut Shabbos and A Belated Happy Chanukah!January 18, 2013 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1125256AbeFParticipant
what happend to this thread??? i used to really enjoy it!!!January 18, 2013 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #1125257tzaddiqMember
yeah, i agree. hey where’s baalhabooze? baalsechel? jaymatt19? and the rest of the torah crew?January 18, 2013 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #1125258
Midrashim bring down a pshat that the Arbeh would blind the Mitzriyim by shooting off stingers into their eyes. Others say that they literally ate and fed off the faces of the Mitzriyim (cooooooool!!!!). This shtims well with the Yalkut Reuveini who says the Arbeh had teeth that were an amoh and a half long!January 22, 2013 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #1125259AbeFParticipant
Thanks “baalhabooze” keep em coming……January 25, 2013 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #1125260
You’re welcome, AbeF! Here’s for Beshalach:
L’chaim yidden, l’chaim!February 1, 2013 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #1125261
So he answers with a moshul. There was a person who took ill with a disease and called for a doctor to heal him. The doctor said that he will prepare a medicine made up of terribly bitter herbs and spices which he will have to swallow. Although it is extremely bitter and difficult to swallow, but if he nevertheless takes it every day, he will eventually be healed. Then the doctor said that if he wants there is an alternative. If he wants, he can be sealed up in a room together with these atzei boysem, these strong, bitter herbs, and if he remains in that room for many days, and with the air intensely saturated and filled with the fumes and smell of the trufah, he will be healed by merely breathing in that air.
A Good Shabbos!February 3, 2013 12:25 am at 12:25 am #1125263Ken ZaynMember
As usual a gr8 vort, BH. BH for BH! He keeps us full of torah!
Can I ask you to please always mention the actual parsha instead of only saying “in this weeks parsha” so that when I look thru the thread I know what parsha you are saying the vort on. ThanxFebruary 3, 2013 2:43 am at 2:43 am #1125264
Ken Zayn- absolutely, at least I will try to do that in the future! and thank u for the compliment!February 8, 2013 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #1125265
Mechasheyfa Lo Sichayeh (22:17), A Witch shall not live.
And now you know what to do.?
(I think everyone will sleep better this shabbos knowing this vort! lol!!)
???February 14, 2013 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #1125266
That’s what Hashem’s House looks like. Not just oozing with kedusha and awe, but even set up with mentchlichkeit, sensitivity, and comfort for all the people who will enter.
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