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LiveandLearn: I respectfully disagree. Its a makom muchan l’puranious hanfesh, for youngsters visiting. And it aint the only place. Vegas would be worse. Why do young 18 year olds have to be thrown into the lion’s den? Maybe these spiritually dangerous places should be served by kollel couples, or at the very least older 23+ year olds, that are more mature and have better discretion?

Folks: Once again, why do we clump the need for a break aka “vacation” with tumah and prikas ol? Traveling is fine. As a matter of fact my teens drove to Yellowstone and had an awesome experience. But they did travel together with a group, so they always had minyanim. When you go with a good chaburah, it is also a shmirah, that you don’t do things you may normaly fall prey to. Are there people inappropriatly dressed in Yellowstone or any rest area they may stop at? You bet! But it aint no different on Ocean Pkwy. They can still invoke their bechirah, and it’s not glaring at them everywhere they go. Most of the time the boys were by themselves, and there was where to divert their attention. In FL, besides the fact that it’s pervasive, the avirah is one of lewdness. Perhaps the visiting population, beaches, attractions & hotels lend to that atmosphere.

Those who live there hopefully have learned to deal with it. You cannot compare that to folks who go down to visit and are already on a semi prikas ol mode. It’s very dangerous. I don’t think it takes a rocket scientest to figure it out.

I think some of you are just missing the point. Just because there is pritzus almost everywhere, doesn’t mean we should be stupid. Although the particular episode happened in Miami, doesn’t mean it’s much better in LA or Phoenix. My point is, we as parents and mechanchim, have to use our sechel a bit and not throw our kids into the fire. We have to be diligent and really understand what the circumstances are going to be like wherever they go. Would any of u agree to have these boys go mixed swimming every day??? Just justify it by saying there is pritzus in the street of NY anyway!