i dont understand what judging kids and having bungalow colonys where there is a CHILLED OUT attitute which many times lead to sin have in common also to make you informed a boy i know was in the bungalow last week where a girl his age came into his bungalow and told him that she would love to get to know him better and made it very inticing for him all because they shared apaper thin wall!!

my friend should be a spokesman for klal yisroel against all those parents who want their kids to be exactlt like them and their to afraid for their son to learn become a talmid chochem and live a different lifestyle then them!!!!

TO JOSH: im not talking about if he should go im talking about a serious ben torah who wants to sit and learn ANDhis parents want to force him to go.

i just got back from a great shabbos in the coutry and here is what i hav to say and i spoke to many people from different bungalow colonys: the talking in shul is out of hand with eveyone being more chilled out and no rabbi to keep it quiet the shuls sound like A chicken market(and yes where i daven in the city the rav makes sure its quiet)and if someone has the “chutzpa” to shush someone else he gets the “who do you think you are?” and just one more thing(there is alot ill wait to share for another day)the mingling amongst the men and woman is out of control and i dont mean teanagers but how can women shmooze endlessly with their husbands friends ? and im not even talking about yhe fact that if your snood is half off anf your shirt is fitted like a glove he is not allowed to look at you NO MATTER HOW YOU INTERPET THE LAW (AS LONG AS YOU ARE ORHODOX)!!!!!!

To ainodmilvado i think that a great point and that is exactly what i really was trying to bring out and that people should keep this in mind when they head upstate. To the boropark tatty and our rescue man this that you dont see the problem is a big part of the problem and without getting into detail but the whole “chilled out” mentallity whether its with your spouses friends tznius and just tottaly forgetting about “uvelachta bedruchuv” thats what gets me and obviously and most(only) important our father in heaven very mad!!