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SJSinNYC, about the Churban, look in Yeshaya at the beginning (around 3-4) about the sin of Bnos Tsion, for now.
oomis1105, look at what I wrote to you above — you must have skipped it.
Chesedname, you are mistaken about R. Moshe’s opinion. Al pi din a BT has to keep everything. Just some Rabbonim and kiruv professionals try not not to push it with some BTs at the beginning — for fear it may backfire. Aval hatsadikim shebahem keep everything, right after they find out about this or that halocha.
anonymrs, it is the opinion of the majority of Poskim.
oomiss1105, wearing non-tsniusdic clothing, besides being a lav, causes yetser horah for gilui arayos R’L — so, in a way, it is even worse than eating meat of a non-kosher animal.
chesedname, a baal tshuva is obligated to keep all the mitsvos just as any other Jew. The only p’tur is being a tinok shenishba (someone who was indoctrinared with a non-Torah worldview since childhood and never had a chance to know better). Someone, who realizes that Torah is emes, has no p’tur.
anonymrs, look in seifer “Chofets Chaim” (chapter 4).
oomis1105,
Do I feel that not keeping kosher and not being properly tsniusdic is the same? It does not depend on how one feels about it — it depends on how Halocha views it. Eating treif meat is a lav, but so is not being properly covered ( lifnei iver). As far as “how I feel goes” — I get very upset when I see frum women walking around not properly dressed.
Telling men to control it is like telling a person whom a doctor hits on the knee with a small medical hammer to make sure his leg does not kick.
oomis1105, those Rabbonim did not hold it was mutar, halila. They just coud not stop their daughters from doing it. There were also Rabbonim, whose wifes did not cover their hair at all.
Where does this idea come from that wearing tsniusdic clothing is less of an obligation then keeping kosher?
Who are these Rabbonim who allegedly allow this? Why nobody heard of this heter before this breach had begun? It looks like first comes the tuyva, then heterim get invented.
Nobody meant to equate not-tsniusdic skirts with murder. What was meant is that having yetser horah is not a valid excuse.
By the way, the main reason for tsnius is because of the men. Stoping others from doing aveiros (such as protesting against women wearing immodest clothing) is everybody’s business according to the Torah.