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  • in reply to: Joining Sephardic #1699478
    msig88
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    In Morocco, when the spanish Jews fled there, they were indeed labelled as megorashim, and the Moroccan local Jews were called toshavim. There was a lot of contention in the early years between each group and eventually for the most past the megorashim prevailed. These events were usually in the areas known as french morocco, which is the central down to southern morocco mostly to Fez, where the Rif was from. The communities in Spanish morocco, which is on the north coast of Morocco, were exclusively from Spain and kept a derivative of ladino as their language known as haketia. They didn’t really marry the toshavim, or as they called them “forasteros” meaning foreigners, as their minhagim seemed ‘foreign’. Once the megorashim exerted their influence over the most of the moroccan kehilla, spanish Moroccan jews had different slightly minhagim/ tunes/ foods (spanish Moroccans ate sweet foods) as they were undiluted or influenced by compromise with the toshavim.
    The main area of contention between the megorashim when they got to Morocco is to do with hechsher of an animal by checking the lungs with neficha, which the megorashim were Maykel on.

    Only in the most southern parts of Morocco did the megorashim influence not reach.

    It’s interesting to note that Maran in his hakdama to shulchan aruch writes that he is not coming to annul any minhag which was practised prior to the shulchan aruchs printing. The megorashim had been influenced through their chief rabbi, the Rosh, who they called Rabban. So some things when it comes to Halacha (especially in yore death) you find as a result, the Moroccans will hold like the rama and not the shulchan aruch. Furthermore the Sifrei Torah were not in boxes rather on atzei chaim like ashkenazim with the difference that the Sefer torah is wrapped with a cloth all along it, so that you never touch the klaf, as you can’t touch a bare Sefer torah.
    Another enactment from the megorashim was a restriction on marrying another wife, making a beracha on half hallel, saying anenu in amida in arvit/maariv on the night before taanit.

    Purim sameach

    in reply to: Joining Sephardic #1698893
    msig88
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    There is a misconception nowadays about Sephardim. Sephardim means those who are from Spain. Iraq is not spain, nor is Syria and nor is Iran. Jews originating from these countries are not Sephardim rather they are mizrachim. The general uniformity you find amongst the “Sephardic” world comes as a result of the influence which the shulchan aruch had on the jewish world and the kehillas who adopted the psakim of the shulchan aruch. In 1992, Rav ovadia Yosef ztz”l when he was chief rabbi attended an event in Spain commemorating 500 years since the inquisition. At this event the king of Spain asked Rav ovadia why so many call themselves Sephardi when in essence they are not of Sephardic origin. Rav ovadia replies that it was due to the acceptance of the shulchan aruch that they called themselves sephardic.
    Of course Jews escaping the inquisition reached Syria, Iraq, Persia etc but these were few in number. The vast majority of spanish Jews fled to morocco, Italy, Holland and the Balkans/greece/turkey. Minhagim amongst these communities are similar as is the nusach. The nusach of real Sephardim is slightly different to the nusach of the “Sephardic” siddurim available today.
    With regard to pesach, a lot depends on family minhagim and the towns they were from. Stringencies developed based on maasim which happened in that town. For example some don’t eat sugar because once they found a crumb in the sugar left over by the vendor, rice wasn’t eaten because they would be shipped in the same bags as flour, or they would bleach the rice with flour. Some don’t eat chickpeas because in arabic Hamus sounds like chametz…. and so on.

    The pasuk in ovadia says vegalut yerushalayim Asher bisfarad. There’s a mesorah that Jews were living in Spain since the times of the bayit rishon as Shlomo hamelech sent Tax collectors there (one is buried in tarragon). It is also claimed that Toledo was built by jewish expulsees when the first bet hamikdash was destroyed. This is documented by the Abarbanel who says his family as in Spain for 2000 years (they were descendants of david hamelech)

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