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AVA, your point regarding that over time they respect having degraded is false. Today people in communities worldwide have the Utmost respect for the Rav.
Frankly I think it is that people of your mindset making such bold and rash statements regarding this great sages of our times is what is lowering the way people look at them.
That is to say many people don’t even know who these giants were and upon a closer look by them they would have great respect. However there is a flaw where as people do, they make brash statements that prevent individuals from even beginning to give the right amount of Kavod to great torah scholars
Gadolhadorah, you are nisorer by me a moridikke point. I realize now that there is more to the question and both require explanation
Lostspark, reb eliezer also did not address the opinion that by mashke there would be an entirely different shiur
Reb eliezer I think it’s worth noting that this opinion of the small cup is not one followed by everyone it’s actually brought in the piskei tshuvos where he quotes it from a maharsham if I’m not mistaken. You can also find a story of r’ Naftoli ropshitzer who specifically made kiddish on mashke in a small cup to show that was the shiur. However there is also a story of the bal hatanya when before he became the Rebbe he was in his father in laws home for shabbos and he davened barrichus. He missed kiddish Friday night so there was no wine and his father in law hid all the small cups. He was mehader to have a large shier of the kiddish and he was forced to make kiddish in an unusually large vessel. Even though it made him terribly ill.
So we see there are different shiurim
What’s the proper way
this is a question that can be resolved by a simple cheshbon. every yid has a chezkas kashrus, therefore we assume the will not be oveir on theft of wages when they should be working and certainly they will not be yeshiva bachurim being mevatel torah
the lubavitcher rebbe writes in his work of the HAYOM YOM that the early chassidim would study the entire tanach every three months. These men were truly pious individuals and where people that could be followed as the ultimate role models. its truly unfortunate that we no longer have this practice. see the attached link for hayom yom 19th of adar alef Sorry, no outside links