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“Yes they know* they maintain that Rashi IS PESHAT and no other Rishon/pirush should supersede that as peshat”
וגם רבינו שלמה אבי אמי מאיר עיני גולה שפירש תורה נביאים וכתובים, נתן לב לפרש פשוטו של מקרא. ואף אני שמואל ב”ר מאיר חתנו זצ”ל נתווכחתי עמו ולפניו והודה לי שאילו היה לו פנאי, היה צריך לעשות פירושים אחרים לפי הפשטות המתחדשים בכל יום
Are you suggesting that Rashbam fabricated this anecdote?
“Not that it shouldn’t be learnt** rather it shouldn’t be viewed as peshat”
Any tanach scholar knows that Rashi is mostly midrashic and Rashbam, Ibn Ezra’s style is פשוטו של מקרא. I don’t think this is debatable.
And finally my examples from Ibn Ezra, Seforno, etc while they were cynical, they are definitely relevant to the ban which declares “many many times this despicable commentary goes against Rashi and Chazal”
“You added “mostly”
And again yes Rishonim argue on Rashi that is irrelevant .
Rashi writes in parshas bereishis that he will write his commentary following this principle: וַאֲנִי לֹא בָאתִי אֶלָּא לִפְשׁוּטוֹ שֶׁל מִקְרָא וּלְאַגָּדָה הַמְיַשֶּׁבֶת דִּבְרֵי הַמִּקְרָא דָבָר דָּבוּר עַל אֳפַנָּיו. At the end of the day, most of the time he followed the second method though anyone familiar with Rashi knows he sometimes does discuss פְשׁוּטוֹ שֶׁל מִקְרָא. That is why I wrote mostly.
“The argument goes that we’ve accepted Rashi as pshat”
So if that is true, then other pashtanim are not allowed to be studied?
“NOBODY said all explanations other than Rashi should be “ripped out”
Did you read the kol korei?? the argument that is repeated over is that the commentary constantly brings down peirushim which are against rashi and chazal.
Rabbeinu bachya writes that the best peirush on megillas Esther is that of ibn ezra. Ibn ezra writes in that commentary that according to pshat mordechai and Esther were not married, because they would not risk sending Esther in as a beula when she was advertised as a besula. This is keneged the gemara and Rashi and therefore all of rabbeinu bachya and ibn Ezra’s writings need to banned immediately. Ramban in last weeks parsha says that according to pshat Rachel’s mother did not die contrary to Rashi and bereishis raba. We can let our children read this kfira so Ramban needs to be banned as well. Seforno says Yaakov was not a poor man when he wanted to marry Rachel. This goes against Rashi who writes that eliphaz robbed yaakov and made him a poor man. Daas zekeinim mebaalei hatosfos write that Rachel was crying that she might end up marrying eisav, not leah. Once again keneged Rashi. Both seforno and daas zekeinim need to be ripped out of the mikraos gedolos ASAP. וכולי וכולי
Rashi admitted to Rashbam that if he would have more time he would have written a new peirush that focused more on pshuto shel mikra. So Rashi by his own admission is mostly not pshuto shel mikra. Ibn ezra also took a jab at Rashi and said that one out of a thousand of rashi’s peirushim are pshat.
For goodness sakes, this chumash has rashi kepshuto right opposite the pshuto shel mikra commentary! Also Rashi is often quoted for the pshuto shel mikra commentary. And while it is true that chumash is most commonly studied with Rashi nowadays, in the past there was a whole different school of thought such as that of the geonim and the chachmei sfarad who held that pshuto shel mikra was the ikkar.
Notably absent from this ban is Rav Shmuel Kamenestsky. His father Rav Yaakov zt”l was very into pshuto shel mikra and their commentaries.
This ban is honestly ridiculous לפי עניות דעתי.ֶ I would like to give an example from the beginning of this week’s parsha ויצא. The pasuk says ויקח מאבני המקום וישם מראשותיו and then it says ויקח את האבן. Rashi who usually will comment from midrashic literature in this case chullin 91b says that he initially took many stones and then they fought עלי יניח צדיק את ראשו and ה׳ subsequently made them all join into one large stone. We were all taught this midrash as kids. Tosfos on that gemara as well as ALL the pashtanim on the pasuk (rashbam, ibn ezra, bchor shor, radak etc) all say that pshuto shel mikra is that Yaakov took one stone from stones of the area. So the whole question never begins. Now according to these ban signatories, this pshat is kefira since it disagrees with Rashi and the gemara. Horrific. I’ve got news for you, Rashi and Ramban will sometimes dismiss the midrash and favor pshat. An example of Rashi doing that is on the words כברת ארץ bereishis 35:16 and Ramban does it on the words מערת המכפלה.ֶ should we ban Rashi and Ramban too??
I’ve read the sefer quite a bit and I don’t recall one controversial pshat; they purposely avoided them and there are quite a few of them from rishonim.
I don’t work in Manhattan and can’t commute to work by public transportation, but I agree cars are very expensive.
What percentage of frum families make over 200k yearly?
No way, you would have to completely insane about becoming a physician to just start undergraduate studies at this point in your life. Take it from someone who just finished a health graduate school with kids.
Does the average working family make 150K? Yay or nay
smartcookie- I am training to be an optometrist
According to the wills eye manual, other treatment options include: epithelial debridement(they gently remove any loose epithelium and hope it heals properly), extended bandage contact lens wear, anterior stromal puncture, and the last option is using a laser to ablate the middle layer of the cornea. This is called phototherapeutic keratectomy, and they claim that that it is 90% successful in patients with recurrent erosions due to corneal dystrophies. Do you know what caused your erosion. Was it trauma?
Depending on how long you have this problem, you may need various eye drops or a protective contact lens. Did you go see an eye doctor yet?
eclipse- I am actually taking a contact lens course right now in optometry school and the reason it is dangerous is because as it is with a lens on the eye you are getting less oxygen to your cornea, when you are sleeping and your lids are closed you are getting even less. this can lead to all sorts of problems. that being said, there are some contact lenses that are FDA approved for sleeping with although it is up to your eye doctor to decide whether you are a good candidate for that. Finally, in general the daily disposables and silicon hydrogels (a type of lens material) are the most expensive.
Why did the golfer take off his glove?
Because he had a hole in one!
The story was with Reb Meir Shapiro and the Chofetz Chaim. The Chofetz chaim told Reb Meir Shapiro that the Shulchan Aruch says that one must eat the shabbos meal with his wife so therefore he could not accomodate the Lubliner Rav’s request.
I thought that I had made it clear in my original post that I understood that there are some people who are going to have a good excuse. I am referring to people who at every davening i.e. even when they daven at a later minyan or on Sundays (whats the excuse then) chronically are leaving right after their shemoneh esreh. I just feel that this is wrong, thats all