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Zushy – to answer your question, Chazal state – יפתח בדורו כשמואל בדורו. There are indeed pro-Zionist quotes attributed to the Gedolim of previous generations (besides for all the quotes that are taken out of context or just downright fabricated to portray a hasidic rebbe or rosh yeshiva as being sympathetic toward Zionist kefira חס ושלום). But notice that I said PREVIOUS generations – you will not hear any pro-Zionist statements from ANY of the current Gedolei Hador שליט”א. Baruch Hashem to that! This has been the case ever since the Godol of the Gedolim, the ineffable Rav Shach זצוקללה”ה, reinstated saying Tachanun on Yom HaAtzmaut in Ponevezh, despite the fact that the Ponevezher Rav omitted it. So we are obligated to follow the CURRENT gedolim who pasken without a doubt that ZIONISM IS KEFIRA!!!
smerel – The exact quote, from the Fall 2022 Issue, is (https://jewishaction.com/religion/outreach/the-state-of-jewish-outreach/):
“Remember all the books and lectures “proving” Torah is true? That was so “1990s”! ”
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ujm – The Kiruv movement has a much bigger problem than what you mention – the fact that the Kiruv movement is past its prime. The effect of several generations of intermarriage and assimilation among the Conservative and Reform combined with the disproportionate and outsized growth of Kollel as a de facto way of life and “education” (or lack thereof) for chareidim have resulted in a Kiruv situation with too few candidates for kiruv and too many chariedi candidates to work in kiruv. As Rabbi Adlerstein so eloquently wrote (https://cross-currents.com/2012/12/19/klal-perspectives-the-kiruv-issue/):
“Today, kiruv is a job description. For a yungerman on the cusp of leaving kollel to earn a living, and without any specific career training, one of the options for consideration is kiruv.”
Even the classic “proofs” for Orthodox Judaism a la Rabbis Kelemen, Gottlieb, and Mechanic are passe. As an article in the Jewish Action a few months ago put it” “Proofs for the Torah?! That is so 90’s!”
So before patronizing us with your chareid self-righteous attitude of who’s in and who’s out, it’s time to look in the mirror and start doing a serious cheshbon hanefesh.
ujm – The Kiruv movement has a much bigger problem than what you mention – the fact that the Kiruv movement is past its prime. The effect of several generations of intermarriage and assimilation among the Conservative and Reform combined with the disproportionate and outsized growth of Kollel as a de facto way of life and “education” (or lack thereof) for chareidim have resulted in a Kiruv situation with too few candidates for kiruv and too many chariedi candidates to work in kiruv. As Rabbi Adlerstein so eloquently wrote (https://cross-currents.com/2012/12/19/klal-perspectives-the-kiruv-issue/):
“Today, kiruv is a job description. For a yungerman on the cusp of leaving kollel to earn a living, and without any specific career training, one of the options for consideration is kiruv.”
Even the classic “proofs” for Orthodox Judaism a la Rabbis Kelemen, Gottlieb, and Mechanic are totally passe. As an article in the Jewish Action a few months ago put it” “Proofs for the Torah?! That is so 90’s!”
So before patronizing us with your chareid self-righteous attitude of who’s in and who’s out, it’s time to look in the mirror and start doing a serious cheshbon hanefesh.