Do these israelis still believe that all Jews living in peaceful countries should be making aliyah to this dangerous war zone
Some of the comments on this site make me so sad
At the stupidity of some frum people
Ummm… “In my humble opinion,” is that a Purim joke? Cuz it’s a lousy one. “These Israelis??” Wow, I’m so happy you feel so safe and secure wherever you are… ( State of Oblivion???) We Jews in New Jersey understand that there but for the Grace of G-d go I, so yes, you are no safer in your cocoon than my sister in Ramat Beit Shemesh. Get your head out of the sand, brother.
Mr. Humble bumble opinion!
You can safely in you safe home in NY, Baltimore or NJ. Be it Monsey, Skver or KJ. Woodridge or wherever! There are no threats there. Everything is PeachyKeen as Bob Grant would say. Don’t you think the Ribono Shel Olam is the Kol Yachol everywhere! Don’t you ever see ‘?? ?? All over Chazal have said that Eretz Yisroel is the place for every Yid.
It would have added allot if the article made clear where in the Yerushalyim area this was so we can get an idea of how close it was to the city itself. This is because as far back as Saddam Hussein in 1990 nobody ever fired missiles or rockets at Yerushalyim because if it was off by just a bit it would have hit the arabs so people in Yerushlayim always felt safe. So if they fired at Yerushalyim itself it would be a first and will show how confident Iran is in the accuracy of their missiles that they will now fire at the Jewish parts of the city, something nobody did before.
In my humble opinion:
Don’t talk. Just daven.
@inmyhumbleopinion Calling it a ‘dangerous war zone’ ignores what it truly is — the Jewish homeland. We don’t define our home by its challenges. We define it by our bond to it.
Yes, you should still be making Aliyah! Do you think you are safe in America or elsewhere with all the anti-Semitism? Like Rebbe Akiva’s story with the fox and the fish. We are safer in our natural habitat than out of it.
Dear “in my humble opinion”,
We live in Israel and we feel very safe here. Would rather be here in our land than anywhere else in the world right now. Too much hate and shootings and swastikas in the USA. Also, the dollar is so low now.
Seriously, much better here.
Where a yid belongs is where his rebbe or rav is. If you are Skver than you probably need to be in Skver town with your rebbe. If you are satmar you need to be in monroe or Williamsburg. If you are Bobov than you need to be in Boro park. If you are BMG Kollel guy you need to be in lakewood. You need to be close to your rebbe or rav. Are Jews all suppose to move to Eretz yisroel. Certainly not according to the gemorah. See Pesachim 87 I think it is. That one of the reasons we are spread all over the golus is to give non Jews a chance to become Jews. When they are exposed to jews some become jews. Maybe today with the internet they get exposed to Jews and Torah in that way. It happens. Another reason for Jews to be scattered all over is for their safety. If all Jews lived only in one land then they could be easily destroyed like by Purim where all Jews were under the rule of achasveurus. The reason hitler yemach shemoy could not destroy the world’s Jews was because they were not all in Europe. Yes we need Jews everywhere.
Just one clarification.
The gemorah that states that Jews are in exile to attract goyim to Judaism is in pesachim 87 B
Check it out.
The pasuk says.
Eretz asher hashem elukecha buh meireishis hashona ad achris hashunah.
This is the answer to all that believe that America is safer then Israel.
Hashem is guarding Eretz Yisroel every second.
It’s hard to believe this but the fact is that we see much more open Nissim in Eretz Yisroel then anywhere else.
@Flatbush yid
You’re missing something crucial. You said that if we all live in one land we could be easily destroyed “like by Purim”… One problem: we weren’t destroyed in Purim. And the reason Haman could not destroy all the Jews is because Hashem had rachmanus on us. The reason Hitler could not destroy all the Jews is because Hashem had rachmanus on us. ???. Ain’t nothing to do with where we live. That’s human intellect saying “it’s because of me that I was protected.” Nope. G-d takes us back when He’s ready. If He wants Iran’s missiles to hit NYC, they will. If He wants Iran’s missiles to be redirected to Antarctica, they will. Yes, I understand Hashem works within ???. If you think your ??????? is to be in America, okay. Far be it from me to tell you what your ????? is. But our safety has nothing to do with where we are and entirely to do with ????? ?? ?????.
If Hashem wanted Hitler to gain world power and eradicate us, he would have done so. But just like Haman- ruling over ???? the whole world- Hashem controls them. Achashveirosh is a flea. Hitler is a flea. Neither of them have power. !’?? ?
I don’t learn Gemara, I have no response for your interpretation of Psachim 87. Maybe we do need Jews everywhere, for whatever reason. I certainly understand our mission to spread ‘????? ? amongst the nations of the world, like Shlomo HaMelech says in Mishlei. I can’t share a psak about where we should live. But claiming our safety as a ??? is due to to the fact that we’re spread out? No. Our safety comes only from Hashem.
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Do these israelis still believe that all Jews living in peaceful countries should be making aliyah to this dangerous war zone
Some of the comments on this site make me so sad
At the stupidity of some frum people
Ummm… “In my humble opinion,” is that a Purim joke? Cuz it’s a lousy one. “These Israelis??” Wow, I’m so happy you feel so safe and secure wherever you are… ( State of Oblivion???) We Jews in New Jersey understand that there but for the Grace of G-d go I, so yes, you are no safer in your cocoon than my sister in Ramat Beit Shemesh. Get your head out of the sand, brother.
Mr. Humble bumble opinion!
You can safely in you safe home in NY, Baltimore or NJ. Be it Monsey, Skver or KJ. Woodridge or wherever! There are no threats there. Everything is PeachyKeen as Bob Grant would say. Don’t you think the Ribono Shel Olam is the Kol Yachol everywhere! Don’t you ever see ‘?? ?? All over Chazal have said that Eretz Yisroel is the place for every Yid.
It would have added allot if the article made clear where in the Yerushalyim area this was so we can get an idea of how close it was to the city itself. This is because as far back as Saddam Hussein in 1990 nobody ever fired missiles or rockets at Yerushalyim because if it was off by just a bit it would have hit the arabs so people in Yerushlayim always felt safe. So if they fired at Yerushalyim itself it would be a first and will show how confident Iran is in the accuracy of their missiles that they will now fire at the Jewish parts of the city, something nobody did before.
In my humble opinion:
Don’t talk. Just daven.
@inmyhumbleopinion Calling it a ‘dangerous war zone’ ignores what it truly is — the Jewish homeland. We don’t define our home by its challenges. We define it by our bond to it.
Yes, you should still be making Aliyah! Do you think you are safe in America or elsewhere with all the anti-Semitism? Like Rebbe Akiva’s story with the fox and the fish. We are safer in our natural habitat than out of it.
Dear “in my humble opinion”,
We live in Israel and we feel very safe here. Would rather be here in our land than anywhere else in the world right now. Too much hate and shootings and swastikas in the USA. Also, the dollar is so low now.
Seriously, much better here.
Where a yid belongs is where his rebbe or rav is. If you are Skver than you probably need to be in Skver town with your rebbe. If you are satmar you need to be in monroe or Williamsburg. If you are Bobov than you need to be in Boro park. If you are BMG Kollel guy you need to be in lakewood. You need to be close to your rebbe or rav. Are Jews all suppose to move to Eretz yisroel. Certainly not according to the gemorah. See Pesachim 87 I think it is. That one of the reasons we are spread all over the golus is to give non Jews a chance to become Jews. When they are exposed to jews some become jews. Maybe today with the internet they get exposed to Jews and Torah in that way. It happens. Another reason for Jews to be scattered all over is for their safety. If all Jews lived only in one land then they could be easily destroyed like by Purim where all Jews were under the rule of achasveurus. The reason hitler yemach shemoy could not destroy the world’s Jews was because they were not all in Europe. Yes we need Jews everywhere.
Just one clarification.
The gemorah that states that Jews are in exile to attract goyim to Judaism is in pesachim 87 B
Check it out.
The pasuk says.
Eretz asher hashem elukecha buh meireishis hashona ad achris hashunah.
This is the answer to all that believe that America is safer then Israel.
Hashem is guarding Eretz Yisroel every second.
It’s hard to believe this but the fact is that we see much more open Nissim in Eretz Yisroel then anywhere else.
@Flatbush yid
You’re missing something crucial. You said that if we all live in one land we could be easily destroyed “like by Purim”… One problem: we weren’t destroyed in Purim. And the reason Haman could not destroy all the Jews is because Hashem had rachmanus on us. The reason Hitler could not destroy all the Jews is because Hashem had rachmanus on us. ???. Ain’t nothing to do with where we live. That’s human intellect saying “it’s because of me that I was protected.” Nope. G-d takes us back when He’s ready. If He wants Iran’s missiles to hit NYC, they will. If He wants Iran’s missiles to be redirected to Antarctica, they will. Yes, I understand Hashem works within ???. If you think your ??????? is to be in America, okay. Far be it from me to tell you what your ????? is. But our safety has nothing to do with where we are and entirely to do with ????? ?? ?????.
If Hashem wanted Hitler to gain world power and eradicate us, he would have done so. But just like Haman- ruling over ???? the whole world- Hashem controls them. Achashveirosh is a flea. Hitler is a flea. Neither of them have power. !’?? ?
I don’t learn Gemara, I have no response for your interpretation of Psachim 87. Maybe we do need Jews everywhere, for whatever reason. I certainly understand our mission to spread ‘????? ? amongst the nations of the world, like Shlomo HaMelech says in Mishlei. I can’t share a psak about where we should live. But claiming our safety as a ??? is due to to the fact that we’re spread out? No. Our safety comes only from Hashem.