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  • #593051
    labubby
    Member

    what do you think of the new security at the airports with the new body scanners , ok or no

    #711233
    arc
    Participant

    it is what it is. people like to kvetch.

    #711234
    chesedname
    Participant

    perfectly fine.

    they are professionals and strangers, no different then your Dr looking at you.

    if they didn’t do it, and there was a terrorist attack, the security ppl would be responsible. so they can’t win here.

    #711235
    sms007
    Member

    noooo way. they do give you the option of having a pat down instead (i think that’s what it’s called)

    #711236
    blinky
    Participant

    sms- i heard pat downs are very thorough i think between the pat downs and scanner i would choose scanner though the idea is quite nauseating!

    #711237
    labubby
    Member

    how bad is it anyway whats everyone complaining about?

    #711238
    sms007
    Member

    blinky- really? uh oh, good you told me since were flying soon. i’m starting to get a bit naseoussss!!!! add that to the list of reasons to back out from the trip lol

    #711239
    Sacrilege
    Member

    Yes, the pat-down have gotten A LOT more thorough (thanks to our good friend, the underwear bomber)

    That being said, its same gender pat down so really, I think everyone can take a chill.

    #711242
    sms007
    Member

    ok, ok we got the point. we now know pat down isnt so much better.

    #711243
    Sacrilege
    Member

    Chesed

    Trust me, the TSA guy isnt thrilled about it either.

    I had a female TSA lady give me the FULL pat down before these new stringencies were added. I was called out of the line (wonder if it had to do with my tzahal sweatshirt 😉 and was THOROUGHLY frisked, its not such a big deal.

    #711244
    ronrsr
    Member

    don’t the body scanners obscure your face and obscure the fine details of your body?

    You can always take the bus.

    #711245
    bpt
    Participant

    my tzahal sweatshirt 😉

    ?????????!

    Let me get this straight. Miss Kensetonia, daughter of someone really choshuv, davens like a brisker, and wears a sweatshirt?

    #711246
    ronrsr
    Member

    Though I think many of the TSA’s security measures are a bit lame, I prefer to know my fellow passengers have gone through the scanner.

    Also, check out today’s news for a story of a man who refused to be scanned. Let’s see what happens next.

    #711247
    jhcvivgwry
    Participant
    #711249
    [email protected]
    Participant

    the new airport scanner is soo wrong it violations our privacy!!!

    #711250
    deiyezooger
    Member

    they say better save then sorry so lets stick with as much security as possible even if it’s yuk or annoying, right with me on that one? to bad if not that’s what staying anyway, it might get only worse.

    #711251
    labubby
    Member

    what does the oilam tanyna about the guy in san diego airport , did he accomplish what he wanted to prove

    #711252
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    The guy in the airport did us all a favor, but really, he is an idiot. I am flying sunday, and while I think this is outrageous, I really need to get where I am going, so I will put up with it.

    #711253
    oomis
    Participant

    The scanner is a virtual strip search, but as long as the scanners are nowhere near the people who are being scanned (meaning that the people looking at them are ONLY looking at the screen, but cannot see the actual person nearby), then I think it is preferable to being thoroughly groped by a stranger. That could actually traumatize our young women going to Seminary. As unpleasant as this might be, it is a necessary evil for our protection, and sakanas nefashos comes first.

    #711254
    ronrsr
    Member

    Oh, oomis, you are so wise.

    #711255
    Sacrilege
    Member

    BPT

    You are regressing in your people analysis.

    Let me try to break it down:

    “Miss Kensetonia”

    In the realm of Flatbush, I dont even live close to Kensington.

    “daughter of someone really choshuv”

    I think so 🙂

    “davens like a brisker”

    I think Briskers everywhere should be offended that my poor pathetic excuse for prayer is likened to their Davening.

    “and wears a sweatshirt?”

    Heck yea! For days off and traveling. Low maintenance, ‘member 😉

    #711256
    WIY
    Member

    I have no problem with the beefed up security as long as they check everybody equally not just young kids and old ladies. Yes I expect every muslim to be checked just as thoroughly as everyone else.

    #711257
    WIY
    Member

    Sacrilege

    Tzahal sweatshirt? Are you a rebel without a cause?

    #711258

    Is it better for a girl to be seen “virtually naked” by a man or should she rather opt for the pat down as gross as it is?

    Is it allowed for frum women to go through the scanner?

    #711259
    haifagirl
    Participant

    And how many problems have they had with flights that originate at Ben Gurion? Zero. And they don’t have the intrusive security.

    #711260
    tzippi
    Member

    I’ve been frisked, probably because of long skirts and shirts in summer, but even in winter. The type of body search they’re talking about now is kind of distasteful absent some serious cause.

    #711261
    mamashtakah
    Member

    Of course, if they did security in the U.S. like the Israelis (i.e., profiling), they wouldn’t need all this mishugas.

    #711262
    Mayan_Dvash
    Participant

    I’d probably opt for the pat-down. But only after eating 2 lbs. of chulent or a nice Greek Salad/Caesar Salad. Someone who is really daring would go for “MoviPrep” – stuff you drink before getting a colonoscopy.

    ;

    #711263
    Y.W. Editor
    Keymaster

    bump

    #711264
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    This is a very unnecessary evil. First of all, some things are just off limits no matter if you have a good reason. Second, the burn himself bomber could have and should have been rejected with a system already in place. His bomb was pounced upon by those who couldn’t wait for something that they can use to publicize it. Olam Golam falls for it. Third of all, which is my ever repeated point, there is no reason for a person to view any picture at all. A computer can very easilly follow the simple vector of the human form, and can spot a foreign object much more efficiently than a human. They want this because they are pigs.

    #711265
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    With Chanuka in mind, you are probably familiar with their law of having every Kalla being tried out first by an official. I’m sure they had some kind of logic then too. The realisation frightens and sickens me that you probably would have bought into that, too. Can’t you tell when something went too far?

    I don’t know what makes you so happy about the fact that a man will grope your little boys. As long as it’s not your son’s Rebbi?

    #711266
    charliehall
    Participant

    I flew earlier today. No problems.

    #711267
    ronrsr
    Member

    has anyone asked an LOR about this?

    #711269
    squeak
    Participant

    popa- me too. 6 am. See you there?

    #711270
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    You can always take the bus.

    Not to Israel.

    The Wolf

    #711271
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I am flying later in the morning. I hope you are through security by the time I get there.

    #711272

    attention frum women (and their husbands and fathers),

    the TSA in their wisdom seems to have decided that any female in a skirt is probably a terrorist and needs to go thru a pat down to make sure their skirt is not hiding any explosives.

    I kid you not.

    LINK: http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_story.aspx?storyid=140233&catid=14

    #711273
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Yeah. You might want to find out if you can get some heter to wear pants. I don’t know of one, but who knows.

    #711275
    myfriend
    Member

    The crazy thing is even if you go through the scanner they can insist you go through the intrusive hand pat-down afterwards, if they think they noticed something in the scanner.

    And you can’t refuse the pat-down apparently, even if you decide you will cancel your flight they will insist you go through it just to LEAVE the airport. (That’s what they advised the guy who took the recording a few days ago.)

    #711276
    blinky
    Participant

    Just curious, i know someone with a catheter that is flying soon, and he wants to know if the security will give him problems, because its a lot of wires

    #711277
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Just curious, i know someone with a catheter that is flying soon, and he wants to know if the security will give him problems, because its a lot of wires

    I would be highly surprised if your friend is the first person the TSA has come across with a catheter.

    Nonetheless, I would imaging it couldn’t hurt if he brought alone some documentation from his physician.

    The Wolf

    #711278
    blinky
    Participant

    Wolf- most people who have catheters dont really fly…But ill check into getting documents- thanks

    #711279

    are you sure its a catheter

    catheters dont have “a lot of wires”

    #711280
    blinky
    Participant

    yes it is a catheter- and it has wires

    #711281
    squeak
    Participant

    popa- you’re right. You wouldn’t want to be around when I go through security.

    the TSA in their wisdom seems to have decided that any female in a skirt is probably a terrorist

    So men in skirts are OK? I have Scottish friends who would like to know. They’re afraid TSA can’t tell a kilt from a skirt.

    #711282
    myfriend
    Member

    squeak:

    Go through security in a kilt, refuse the scanner, and let us know the results.

    #711283

    popa- you’re right. You wouldn’t want to be around when I go through security.

    -squeak

    Why? Do you wear a skirt?

    #711284
    squeak
    Participant

    I guess the only way you will find out is to be at the airport at 6 am on Sunday, and wait for the ruckus.

    #711285
    myfriend
    Member

    I think the reason squeal hasn’t gotten back to us yet, is because security is still going through their very intrusive procedure, and squeak isn’t taking it to well.

    No kilts next time. Too bad the girls don’t have that option.

    #711286

    squeak,

    post you video here so YWN can get a drudge link again on Sunday.

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