September 23, 2009 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #590480
I believe and feel strongly that it is an offense to everything we believe in to show pictures of accident scenes.
1) It is the derech of goyim to publicize tragedies.
2) It causes pain to the family members.
3) It has the potential to compromise the tznius of the injured. That is the case even if their pictures are not shown. There were still people around taking pictures and this alone causes tzar to the injured and their families.(Not to mention the disruption it causes to Hatzalah. This point was brought to light recently by hatzalah members that people who hear of an accident go to the scene just to take pictures. Hashem Yerachem!
4) It does not promote more sensitivity to be more careful on the roads. I believe it causes a timtum halev just like watching murderous scenes on tv (Ch’v!) would numb our sensitivities to such a tragedy.
It just serves no worthwhile purpose. It is only done so that a young frum person who wants to be a journalist has a market for his pictures. Let him take pictures of scenes that will enlighten people. That will show them hope and be m’orer them to be better and more sensitive Yidden. I was also a journalist once upon a time. I got out of it because of these compromises as much as I love fast breaking news.
The bottom line, tayereh yidden, is Lo zu haderech for an am hakadosh. I ask each one of you to sign on to this machoh and find a way to have even more pictures of simchas and our tayereh ainei hoeidah. THAT”S what I want to see more of. YWN does a beautiful job of publicizing pictures of our gedolim. Let’s see more!
At the very least, I do not want to see accident pictures mixed in with gedolim pictures. I protest it vigorously and ask you to reformat the picture section so that my eyes do not have to see a mokom of tzar for yidden.
But I ask my fellow yidden to sign on and ask YWN to remove these pictures and cleanse their sight of this derech hagoyim.September 23, 2009 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #1021027haifagirlParticipant
Today YWN had pictures of an accident scene. I admit I looked at the pictures. But the whole time I kept wondering how these pictures helped my understanding of the story. They didn’t. The really did not serve any purpose except, imho, to be voyeuristic. Simchasaba I vote with you on this.
Remove the pictures.September 23, 2009 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #1021028JosephParticipant
I agree 1000% with simchasaba.September 23, 2009 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #1021029oomisParticipant
I did not see the pictures you mention, but I agree, there is little value in depicting gruesome accidents and other people’s tzoros. it is sad enough that such tragedies even happen and make the news media to begin with.September 23, 2009 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #1021031tzippiMember
I’m with you all!September 23, 2009 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #1021032
It always irks me how every single MVA has to hit the big board here. Like who really cares? And give people some privacy for a change.September 23, 2009 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #1021033
Yay! Finally someone opened their mouth about this! It’s totally inappropriate to have these pictures of accidents especially with the ppl. who are injured.
YWN I think u should be serious about listening to the CR members.
Mods what do u have to say?September 23, 2009 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #1021034yiddishmeidelMember
I’m with you a million %September 23, 2009 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1021035A Woman Outside BrooklynParticipant
You have my vote also. There are so many worthy things to have photos of – Gedolim, simchas, and so forth. Let those who, nebich, were in the accident alone. They have enough to deal with.September 23, 2009 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #1021036
why are the mods keeping quite about this? comon share ur thoughts.
moderators do not need encouragement to add our comments. we as individuals will reply using our moderator or our screen names if we so choose to add anything to the discussion. Thank you for understandingSeptember 23, 2009 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #1021037kapustaParticipant
Agree agree agree!
I would be curious to hear from someone on the “other side”September 23, 2009 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #1021038YW Moderator-80Member
As you know, the Mods never have opinions.September 23, 2009 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #1021039
I don’t think that the mods have anything to do with those pictures. Speak to the editor.September 23, 2009 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #1021040
i was in accident in the mountians on visiting day & b”h we ended up ok. But boy would i have been mad if i would have found pictures of us on here. (B’h no YWN reporter showed up). A accident etc. is something u dont get over with so quick. we’re still busy with insurance & other stuff regarding the accident . ..!September 23, 2009 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #1021041
would you be just as mad if it was in a print newspaper or their online version?September 23, 2009 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #1021042
yes! sorry if i came across to strong.September 23, 2009 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #1021043
Similar idea… when your neighbor is being taken in by hatzolah because of some emergency situation, DON’T go outside to stare and watch the entire scene!! Believe me, the person being taken away on a stretcher feels bad enough and doesn’t need the whole neighborhood watching. In addition, many times they may not be properly dressed because it’s an emergency situation, and they don’t need to be more embarrassed by having everyone see them that way.September 23, 2009 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #1021044kapustaParticipant
nurse, totally agree with you. What ever happened to minding your own business?September 23, 2009 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #1021045
Actually, pictures taken at the accident scene might be helpful to you in an insurance claim.
I am not sure about thumbs-up or down for accident pictures on YWN. I vote “present”.September 23, 2009 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1021046A600KiloBearParticipant
I would like to see accident pictures such as:
Ahmadinejad after he falls off a 20 story building and gets run over by a car.
A terrorist in EY blowing himself to smithereens in a work accident while making a bomb.
A PETA terrorist wounded when he interferes with a shoichet to save a chicken, thereby getting slashed deeply in the face.
A burglar falling off a balcony while trying to rob an apartment, thereby rendering himself a brain injured quadriplegic.
No, no real need to see pics in which Yidden are chas vesholom hurt.September 23, 2009 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1021047cholentkugelkishkeMember
A600KiloBear – you forgot the visiting Libyan leader having his tent collapse on him & turn him into farfel!!September 23, 2009 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #1021048mommyof5Member
I am in complete agreement with simchasaba!!! Imagine if it was (chas vesholom) a loved one…I unfortunately had the experience of one of my parents being in a hit by a car. If his/her pictures had been posted online, s/he would’ve been mortified and, rightfully so, extremely upset.
YW moderator 72 – YES!!!!September 23, 2009 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #1021049
Personally, I have never seen pictures of the accident victims on YWN – only the accident scene. But then again I do not look at those pictures often, as I am not usually interested in them.September 23, 2009 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #1021050
NY Mom, there HAVE been picture of the victims in an accident posted on YWN in the past. And in fact, in the one incident I’m specifically referring to, the victims were girls…September 23, 2009 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #1021051Poshite Yid 613Member
There was a picture of a meis mitzvah but I guess that could be differentSeptember 23, 2009 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #1021052
maybe they were hoping someone would be able to identify him. 🙂September 23, 2009 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #1021053Poshite Yid 613Member
I know it still scared meSeptember 23, 2009 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1021054seeallsidesParticipant
I agree 1000% that these pictures are …….. you’ve all said it –
However, one has to appreciate the dilemma of the guy who has to keep the news coming –
he’s got to get the pages filled!
it’s actually one of the reasons i don’t like blogs/newspapers – you have gedolim,inspirational messages, hespedim, mixed with hat sales, recipes, political corruption, a cat seen out of place, and accident scenes…September 23, 2009 9:01 pm at 9:01 pm #1021055
In response to the moderator, I expect nothing less of a regular newspaper than to publish such pictures. Of course, they have their limits as well. But Yidden?! The whole thrust of my post was to emphasize this is appealing to base desires and sensationalism, as a poster said, and have no place in a machaneh that touts itself to be alligned, affiliated, and dedicated to a Yeshivishe derech hachaim.
What a great change to the site it would be now that tuf shin ayin has entered, that you do away with this.
I also want to emphasize that these aspiring journalists should REPORT these accidents so that the olam can daven for those who are injured. But pictures?! Treif as can be. Please take them off taikef u’miyad!
I am gratified that all of you agree. I expected nothing less from our am hakadosh!September 23, 2009 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1021056
Well, I have no interest in gratuitous voyeurism of other people’s misfortunes, so I will add my name to the list of those against accident pictures.September 23, 2009 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm #1021057
btw grandma and simchasaba… I don’t disagree with either of you.September 24, 2009 12:06 am at 12:06 am #1021058pookieMember
i agree a million percent, when ever i see an accident i wonder why people r standing and watching, if someone needs all this action then they should watch agent emesSeptember 24, 2009 12:10 am at 12:10 am #1021059September 24, 2009 1:36 am at 1:36 am #1021061
cherrybim, because they are too busy attending to the patient then to worry about their lights.September 24, 2009 2:19 am at 2:19 am #1021062
Nice try. And this is not to put Hatzola down but there’s a little bit of bravado in the click; it goes with the territory: Cops have it; firefighters have it; and the boys of Hatzola have it too. And as for the Hatzola guys, the more lights the better.September 24, 2009 2:22 am at 2:22 am #1021063
YW Moderator-72: It just occurred to me; are you a Hatzola guy?
no. Just a beneficiary of their servicesSeptember 24, 2009 2:28 am at 2:28 am #1021064mybatMember
If the only “complaint” you have against hatzalah guys is the lights. Let them leave the lights!September 24, 2009 3:08 am at 3:08 am #1021065mi keamcha yisroelMember
i personally think that posting the pictures encourges people to daven better because they see all the tzoros happened, and there is NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.September 24, 2009 3:19 am at 3:19 am #1021066BemusedParticipant
“and the boys of Hatzola”
I am positive you did not mean this negatively, but the use “boys” has condescending connotations. I know this was not intentional; just thought to mention it.September 24, 2009 4:11 am at 4:11 am #1021067FunnyBunnyMember
cherrybim, when Hatzaloh comes, there isn’t time to park normally and shut off the lights. There may be lives in danger and every second is precious!September 24, 2009 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1021068
Bemused- ” …”boys” has condescending connotations…”
What about cops for police; is that ok?September 24, 2009 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1021069BemusedParticipant
I don’t know the connotation of “cops”, so I do not know if it condescending or not.
I knew you didn’t mean anything negative :). Others might perceive it as such, though, and therefore I pointed it out.September 24, 2009 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #1021070
Sorry, cherrybim, gotta disagree.. I know some hatzolah guys who couldn’t care less about the flashing lights and sirens but are there to save lives. And as for the ones that do care about it, that should be their worst problem!September 24, 2009 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1021071
You can’t expect people not to react to the blaring sirens and flashing lights tumult on their block.September 24, 2009 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm #1021072
i guess what i’m saying is not to completely not react, but once you see what it is, i.e. a neighbor being taken out on a stretcher, don’t stay and watch. i’m not saying it’s an easy thing to do, because people are naturally curious, but it definitely can be done.September 25, 2009 9:11 am at 9:11 am #1021073JaxMember
cherrybim: in regards to hatzalah with all the lights…..
i know for a fact that many times at night, on shobbos, & Yom Tovim, that when hatzalah calls more units as back up, that they do call in to the dispatcher anf request ”no lights or sirens!”
just wanted to add that!September 29, 2009 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #1021074
It is my pleasure to tell everyone that I see YW has taken off these pictures. I want to thank YW for doing this. I have been monitoring the Latest Pictures Page and today I did not see one accident picture. I appreciate their consideration and look forward to seeing only geshmakeh pictures! Please take a moment to thank them as well because it means they value our comments and feedback. It is important to show hakoras hatov for that alone! Ah Gut Yohr everyone and thanks for adding your input.September 29, 2009 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1021075JosephParticipant
Yasher koach YWN!September 29, 2009 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #1021076
It is my pleasure to tell everyone that you are wrong.September 29, 2009 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #1021077
Not since Rosh Hashono has YW posted an accident picture. That indicates teshuva on their part and they should be commended for it. I certainly hope it will continue although I do not have a confirmation that they have adopted such a policy. I strongly suggest to YW that the General Pictures should be retitled “Community Pictures” which should include pictures of community events, which have always been covered nicely on the site, both in word and picture.
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