An End To Accident Pictures

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  • #590480
    simchasaba
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    I believe and feel strongly that it is an offense to everything we believe in to show pictures of accident scenes.

    1) It is the derech of goyim to publicize tragedies.

    2) It causes pain to the family members.

    3) It has the potential to compromise the tznius of the injured. That is the case even if their pictures are not shown. There were still people around taking pictures and this alone causes tzar to the injured and their families.(Not to mention the disruption it causes to Hatzalah. This point was brought to light recently by hatzalah members that people who hear of an accident go to the scene just to take pictures. Hashem Yerachem!

    4) It does not promote more sensitivity to be more careful on the roads. I believe it causes a timtum halev just like watching murderous scenes on tv (Ch’v!) would numb our sensitivities to such a tragedy.

    It just serves no worthwhile purpose. It is only done so that a young frum person who wants to be a journalist has a market for his pictures. Let him take pictures of scenes that will enlighten people. That will show them hope and be m’orer them to be better and more sensitive Yidden. I was also a journalist once upon a time. I got out of it because of these compromises as much as I love fast breaking news.

    The bottom line, tayereh yidden, is Lo zu haderech for an am hakadosh. I ask each one of you to sign on to this machoh and find a way to have even more pictures of simchas and our tayereh ainei hoeidah. THAT”S what I want to see more of. YWN does a beautiful job of publicizing pictures of our gedolim. Let’s see more!

    At the very least, I do not want to see accident pictures mixed in with gedolim pictures. I protest it vigorously and ask you to reformat the picture section so that my eyes do not have to see a mokom of tzar for yidden.

    But I ask my fellow yidden to sign on and ask YWN to remove these pictures and cleanse their sight of this derech hagoyim.

    #1021027
    haifagirl
    Participant

    Today YWN had pictures of an accident scene. I admit I looked at the pictures. But the whole time I kept wondering how these pictures helped my understanding of the story. They didn’t. The really did not serve any purpose except, imho, to be voyeuristic. Simchasaba I vote with you on this.

    Remove the pictures.

    #1021028
    Joseph
    Participant

    I agree 1000% with simchasaba.

    #1021029
    oomis
    Participant

    I did not see the pictures you mention, but I agree, there is little value in depicting gruesome accidents and other people’s tzoros. it is sad enough that such tragedies even happen and make the news media to begin with.

    #1021031
    tzippi
    Member

    I’m with you all!

    #1021032
    mepal
    Member

    It always irks me how every single MVA has to hit the big board here. Like who really cares? And give people some privacy for a change.

    #1021033
    Grandma Lee
    Member

    Yay! Finally someone opened their mouth about this! It’s totally inappropriate to have these pictures of accidents especially with the ppl. who are injured.

    YWN I think u should be serious about listening to the CR members.

    Mods what do u have to say?

    #1021034

    I’m with you a million %

    #1021035

    You have my vote also. There are so many worthy things to have photos of – Gedolim, simchas, and so forth. Let those who, nebich, were in the accident alone. They have enough to deal with.

    #1021036
    Grandma Lee
    Member

    why are the mods keeping quite about this? comon share ur thoughts.

    moderators do not need encouragement to add our comments. we as individuals will reply using our moderator or our screen names if we so choose to add anything to the discussion. Thank you for understanding

    #1021037
    kapusta
    Participant

    Agree agree agree!

    I would be curious to hear from someone on the “other side”

    *kapusta*

    #1021038

    As you know, the Mods never have opinions.

    #1021039
    mepal
    Member

    I don’t think that the mods have anything to do with those pictures. Speak to the editor.

    #1021040
    Grandma Lee
    Member

    i was in accident in the mountians on visiting day & b”h we ended up ok. But boy would i have been mad if i would have found pictures of us on here. (B’h no YWN reporter showed up). A accident etc. is something u dont get over with so quick. we’re still busy with insurance & other stuff regarding the accident . ..!

    #1021041
    YW Moderator-72
    Participant

    would you be just as mad if it was in a print newspaper or their online version?

    #1021042
    Grandma Lee
    Member

    yes! sorry if i came across to strong.

    #1021043
    the.nurse
    Member

    Similar idea… when your neighbor is being taken in by hatzolah because of some emergency situation, DON’T go outside to stare and watch the entire scene!! Believe me, the person being taken away on a stretcher feels bad enough and doesn’t need the whole neighborhood watching. In addition, many times they may not be properly dressed because it’s an emergency situation, and they don’t need to be more embarrassed by having everyone see them that way.

    #1021044
    kapusta
    Participant

    nurse, totally agree with you. What ever happened to minding your own business?

    *kapusta*

    #1021045
    NY Mom
    Member

    Actually, pictures taken at the accident scene might be helpful to you in an insurance claim.

    I am not sure about thumbs-up or down for accident pictures on YWN. I vote “present”.

    #1021046
    A600KiloBear
    Participant

    BS”D

    I would like to see accident pictures such as:

    Ahmadinejad after he falls off a 20 story building and gets run over by a car.

    A terrorist in EY blowing himself to smithereens in a work accident while making a bomb.

    A PETA terrorist wounded when he interferes with a shoichet to save a chicken, thereby getting slashed deeply in the face.

    A burglar falling off a balcony while trying to rob an apartment, thereby rendering himself a brain injured quadriplegic.

    No, no real need to see pics in which Yidden are chas vesholom hurt.

    #1021047

    A600KiloBear – you forgot the visiting Libyan leader having his tent collapse on him & turn him into farfel!!

    #1021048
    mommyof5
    Member

    I am in complete agreement with simchasaba!!! Imagine if it was (chas vesholom) a loved one…I unfortunately had the experience of one of my parents being in a hit by a car. If his/her pictures had been posted online, s/he would’ve been mortified and, rightfully so, extremely upset.

    YW moderator 72 – YES!!!!

    #1021049
    NY Mom
    Member

    Personally, I have never seen pictures of the accident victims on YWN – only the accident scene. But then again I do not look at those pictures often, as I am not usually interested in them.

    #1021050
    mepal
    Member

    xoxo, exactly.

    NY Mom, there HAVE been picture of the victims in an accident posted on YWN in the past. And in fact, in the one incident I’m specifically referring to, the victims were girls…

    #1021051

    There was a picture of a meis mitzvah but I guess that could be different

    #1021052
    mepal
    Member

    maybe they were hoping someone would be able to identify him. 🙂

    #1021053

    I know it still scared me

    #1021054
    seeallsides
    Participant

    I agree 1000% that these pictures are …….. you’ve all said it –

    However, one has to appreciate the dilemma of the guy who has to keep the news coming –

    he’s got to get the pages filled!

    it’s actually one of the reasons i don’t like blogs/newspapers – you have gedolim,inspirational messages, hespedim, mixed with hat sales, recipes, political corruption, a cat seen out of place, and accident scenes…

    #1021055
    simchasaba
    Participant

    In response to the moderator, I expect nothing less of a regular newspaper than to publish such pictures. Of course, they have their limits as well. But Yidden?! The whole thrust of my post was to emphasize this is appealing to base desires and sensationalism, as a poster said, and have no place in a machaneh that touts itself to be alligned, affiliated, and dedicated to a Yeshivishe derech hachaim.

    What a great change to the site it would be now that tuf shin ayin has entered, that you do away with this.

    I also want to emphasize that these aspiring journalists should REPORT these accidents so that the olam can daven for those who are injured. But pictures?! Treif as can be. Please take them off taikef u’miyad!

    I am gratified that all of you agree. I expected nothing less from our am hakadosh!

    #1021056
    NY Mom
    Member

    Well, I have no interest in gratuitous voyeurism of other people’s misfortunes, so I will add my name to the list of those against accident pictures.

    #1021057
    YW Moderator-72
    Participant

    btw grandma and simchasaba… I don’t disagree with either of you.

    #1021058
    pookie
    Member

    i agree a million percent, when ever i see an accident i wonder why people r standing and watching, if someone needs all this action then they should watch agent emes

    #1021059
    cherrybim
    Participant

    #1021061
    YW Moderator-72
    Participant

    cherrybim, because they are too busy attending to the patient then to worry about their lights.

    #1021062
    cherrybim
    Participant

    Nice try. And this is not to put Hatzola down but there’s a little bit of bravado in the click; it goes with the territory: Cops have it; firefighters have it; and the boys of Hatzola have it too. And as for the Hatzola guys, the more lights the better.

    #1021063
    cherrybim
    Participant

    YW Moderator-72: It just occurred to me; are you a Hatzola guy?

    no. Just a beneficiary of their services

    #1021064
    mybat
    Member

    If the only “complaint” you have against hatzalah guys is the lights. Let them leave the lights!

    #1021065

    i personally think that posting the pictures encourges people to daven better because they see all the tzoros happened, and there is NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

    #1021066
    Bemused
    Participant

    “and the boys of Hatzola”

    I am positive you did not mean this negatively, but the use “boys” has condescending connotations. I know this was not intentional; just thought to mention it.

    #1021067
    FunnyBunny
    Member

    cherrybim, when Hatzaloh comes, there isn’t time to park normally and shut off the lights. There may be lives in danger and every second is precious!

    #1021068
    cherrybim
    Participant

    Bemused- ” …”boys” has condescending connotations…”

    What about cops for police; is that ok?

    #1021069
    Bemused
    Participant

    I don’t know the connotation of “cops”, so I do not know if it condescending or not.

    I knew you didn’t mean anything negative :). Others might perceive it as such, though, and therefore I pointed it out.

    #1021070
    the.nurse
    Member

    Sorry, cherrybim, gotta disagree.. I know some hatzolah guys who couldn’t care less about the flashing lights and sirens but are there to save lives. And as for the ones that do care about it, that should be their worst problem!

    #1021071
    cherrybim
    Participant

    You can’t expect people not to react to the blaring sirens and flashing lights tumult on their block.

    #1021072
    the.nurse
    Member

    gotcha, cherrybim

    i guess what i’m saying is not to completely not react, but once you see what it is, i.e. a neighbor being taken out on a stretcher, don’t stay and watch. i’m not saying it’s an easy thing to do, because people are naturally curious, but it definitely can be done.

    #1021073
    Jax
    Member

    cherrybim: in regards to hatzalah with all the lights…..

    i know for a fact that many times at night, on shobbos, & Yom Tovim, that when hatzalah calls more units as back up, that they do call in to the dispatcher anf request ”no lights or sirens!”

    just wanted to add that!

    #1021074
    simchasaba
    Participant

    It is my pleasure to tell everyone that I see YW has taken off these pictures. I want to thank YW for doing this. I have been monitoring the Latest Pictures Page and today I did not see one accident picture. I appreciate their consideration and look forward to seeing only geshmakeh pictures! Please take a moment to thank them as well because it means they value our comments and feedback. It is important to show hakoras hatov for that alone! Ah Gut Yohr everyone and thanks for adding your input.

    #1021075
    Joseph
    Participant

    Yasher koach YWN!

    #1021076
    cherrybim
    Participant

    It is my pleasure to tell everyone that you are wrong.

    #1021077
    simchasaba
    Participant

    Not since Rosh Hashono has YW posted an accident picture. That indicates teshuva on their part and they should be commended for it. I certainly hope it will continue although I do not have a confirmation that they have adopted such a policy. I strongly suggest to YW that the General Pictures should be retitled “Community Pictures” which should include pictures of community events, which have always been covered nicely on the site, both in word and picture.

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