Bagel Boss Kosher?
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January 23, 2013 5:15 pm at 5:15 pm #607920rabbi_drParticipant
Does anyone know if bagel boss has a reliable hechsher? ThanksJanuary 23, 2013 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #1095363
I like bagels.
How about you tell us what the hechsher is, and we’ll tell you whether we personally rely on it (if we’ve heard of it).January 23, 2013 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #1095364lakewhutParticipant
they don’t have pork or anything it’s probably just as kosher as dd bagels would beJanuary 23, 2013 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #1095365mylogic37Participant
After a simple google search… http://www.bagelboss.com/rabbinical-letter.phpJanuary 23, 2013 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #1095366mewhoParticipant
why dont you call them?January 23, 2013 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #1095367
That Rabbi is a member of the Vaad of Queens.
The Vaad of Queens doesnt hechsher certain places like those open on Shabbos (Owned by Goyim, but no meat sales Like an Ice Cream Store) so Rav Shecter does the hechsher for those placesJanuary 23, 2013 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #1095368MDGParticipant
Here is the Rabbi’s shul’s web site:
You can read about him on the about page. He seems like a normal frum rabbi, but that does not prove one way or the other about his hashgacha.January 23, 2013 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #1095369monseyravMember
If you are not makpid on cholov yisroel – absolutely. Rav Schechter is a knowledgeable, trustworthy chareidi yid. FYI, he is the son in law of Rav Peretz Steinberg from YI Queens Valley and the Vaad Harrabanim of Queens. His supervision is strict, not one that relies on assorted ‘kulos’. He deals with Shabbos issues ‘al pi halacha’. All the above from personal knowledge.January 23, 2013 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #1095370
Ah, Rabbi Shechter. He is a son in law of Rabbi Steinberg, and is the one who is machshir all the places in Queens that are open on shabbos.
The Vaad of Queens will not certify anyone who is open on shabbos. People who live in Queens may wish to support the vaad, its monopoly (which I think is a good thing), and its policies by not patronizing stores which don’t use the vaad.
I don’t live in Queens, so I don’t need to be involved in their politics. I eat from his establishments, with gusto.January 23, 2013 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #1095371farrockgrandmaParticipant
Ask your local orthodox rabbi.January 23, 2013 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #1095372
Ask your local orthodox rabbi.
This is a good place to ask. You can see there was already good information put forward.January 23, 2013 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #1095373farrockgrandmaParticipant
popa – I agree, this is a good source for information. However, the question of whether a particular hashgacha meets your own standards is a more personal issue.January 23, 2013 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #1095374
Sure, but it is a personal question that should be made based on information.January 23, 2013 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #1095375rebdonielMember
I asked a friend of mine knowledgable in kashrus who runs the Kosher Newxus blog (no shaychus at all to any kashrus orgs, so he is not nogea b’davar on anything).
He says that R’ Schechter is fine, but that R’ Steinberg is no good, that Triangle K and Ner Tamid K are good, but Tablet K no good, and that “The Good Life” cheese produced under the hashgacha of R’ Dovid Katz is no good because it is mamesh gevinas akum.
On that note, does anyone know more of R’ Dovid Katz? I’ve seen his teudah on Chock Full of Nuts in Flatbush, and his hechsher on Russian baked goods. The fact that he allows cheese that would be kasher per the shita of Tosafot and not the Rambam is telling, IMHO, since this is a view of Tosafot which nobody sems to follow, although Rav Soloveitchik followed it and ate Kraft cheese.January 23, 2013 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1095376yehudayonaParticipant
None of their locations are in Queens, but some are in places on Long Island where the Queens Vaad holds sway. To my mind, the one that stands out in the Hewlett location, which is on the edge of the 5 Towns Vaad’s sphere of influence. But I guess the owner wants to have the same hashgacha everywhere (unlike Seasons for example).January 23, 2013 9:29 pm at 9:29 pm #10953772scentsParticipant
He deals with Shabbos issues ‘al pi halacha’
Something tells me that you are trying to point out that he does not have a problem with stores that are open on Shabboss..January 23, 2013 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #1095378
He deals with Shabbos issues ‘al pi halacha’
Something tells me that you are trying to point out that he does not have a problem with stores that are open on Shabboss..
An Ice Cream Store like Baskin Robbins owned by Asians is allowed to be open on Shabbos, It does not need a Mashgiach Timidi.
These are stores owned by GOYIM, not owned by jews.January 23, 2013 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1095379
These are stores owned by GOYIM, not owned by jews.
Well, frequently they are owned by jews, but there is a non-jewish partner who owns it for shabbos.January 23, 2013 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1095380☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
He says that R’ Schechter is fine, but that R’ Steinberg is no good
For clarification, he undoubtedly meant the Steinberg who collects money through the “Cup K”, NOT the Rabbi Peretz Steinberg, Rabbi A. Schechter’s father-in-law, that popa was referring to. Rav Peretz Steinberg is extremely ehrlich. He is officially the posek for R’ Asher Schechter’s hashgocha, but has no hechsher of his own.January 23, 2013 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm #1095381
DY: Yes, thank you for clarifying that. He undoubtedly means the one you are referring to.January 24, 2013 5:36 am at 5:36 am #1095382MDGParticipant
“Rav Soloveitchik followed it and ate Kraft cheese. “
I have heard that is just an urban legend.July 8, 2015 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #1095383Sage of ChelmMember
If you don’t trust a rabbi because you don’t know who he is,
then why are you trusting the anonymous people posting at this blog?July 10, 2015 3:08 am at 3:08 am #1095384ItcheSrulikMember
Now that some Chelmisher 😉 bumped a thread about Hashgachos, has anyone heard of a Rabbi Avner Katz? A store in my neighborhood has his teuda in the window.July 10, 2015 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #1095385yehudayonaParticipant
ItcheSrulik, I don’t know where you’re from and I don’t know who Rabbi Avner Katz is, but I’m using this opportunity to kvell about how much easier it is in communities that basically have hashgacha monopolies like Queens and the Five Towns. I know that if I trust the VHQ and the Five Towns Vaad (which I do), I can eat almost anywhere in those areas. Which takes us back to the original question. I was told that the reason the Hewlett location of Bagel Boss isn’t under the Five Towns Vaad is that the non-Jewish owner would rather deal with just one hashgacha for all his locations. I have not verified this. The Five Towns Vaad does give hashgacha to non-Jewish-owned Dunkin Donuts locations that are open on Shabbos.August 10, 2015 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1095386Dvora JarchowerMember
ItcheSrulik & yehudayona:
Rabbi Avneir Katz is located in Brooklyn (Boro Park) and has been Mashgiach for many years to multiple locations throughout NY & NJ. He also oversees many catering events.
I am proud to say that he is my Uncle.
But you do know as the saying goes…ask your local Orthodox Rabbi if you are unsure of anything.August 10, 2015 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1095387AnnonymouschochomParticipant
You say “if I trust the VHQ and the Five Towns Vaad (which I do), I can eat almost anywhere….” That’s true. And that’s the problem. With them, you can eat anywhere…
BTW, maybe ask their mashgichim and their administrator if they would eat by the establishments they visit and certify.August 11, 2015 3:48 am at 3:48 am #1095388crispandrefreshingParticipant
Rav Peretz Steinberg is extremely ehrlich.- that’s a lie (or chisaron yideah)
ask any responsible dayanAugust 11, 2015 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm #1095389
Its amazing how much rechilus is allowed on this website
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