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Let no one forget that the states hit the worst by the Wuhan Coronavirus are all blue states. Gross neglect and mismanagement of those states in their early response to the COVID-19 pandemic led to their states taking the biggest hits.
One example out of numerous demonstrating the murderous effects of these Democrats was the childish fighting between New York State Gov. Andrew Cuomo and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio over “who is the boss” (those two foolish politicians been acting like adolescents for the last five years over each trying to one-up the other.) That caused a delay in both the closing of the schools and delayed the stay at home orders, causing the spread of the virus. The Mayor delayed closing the schools because he said some parents couldn’t afford to give their children lunch every day. And the Governor delayed giving stay at home orders because the Mayor called for “sheltering at home” first so the Cuomo announced he will not tell citizens to stay at home. He showed the Mayor who is really boss.
Until circumstances forced their hands.
Afterwards they reaped what they sowed when their State’s death rate went soaring to almost Italy-like and Spain-like levels, unlike all the red states managed responsibly by Republican administrations.
1. Blue states tend to be based on large urban areas. In New York, for a example, the virus was not a serious issue in counties located too far away that a daily commute to New York is unrealistic. This suggests that a suburban or rural lifestyle with heavy reliance on private cars is healthy, and an urban lifestyle is not.
2. It isn’t clear how “deadly” the virus is until they compare total death rates. Roughly three million Americans would have died in 2020 given the normal death rate, and so far the virus seems to have only been a drop in the bucket. Historic plagues cause massive increases in the death rate,
3, Literature and mass media are big on “apocalyptic” themes, which may explain the massive overreaction, Note the frum organizations and media also overreacted.
We all think the grass is greener on the other side. Of course it is sometimes, and sometimes it never is. As someone who has gone around the red states for quite some time, although this is confirmed by the news, they did nothing. Not a single one followed Trumps 14 days to slow the spread guideline. None are opening per White House Guidelines either. Some were even shocked that other agencies had the power to close restaurant dining rooms when they refused to give the order. Some are now passing laws to strip and move their authority so that their states will not “close” again, and to grant immunity to your employer for forcing you to work in unsafe conditions.
Here is what we heard. It’s just China, no one knows what goes on over there! Iran is despotic, that’s not a fair warning about the disease. Italy isn’t so bad, don’t listen to that. We’re not Europe. We’re not New York. We’re not California. We’re not….we’re not….we’re not. And deny ourselves right into the epicenter.
Some of the red states have a higher virus rate than whole countries have. Whole countries will re-open virus free and have an economy. No one is going to the reopened malls in the red states. The workers don’t even know why they’re sitting there waiting.
How are we going to compete with healthy countries? This is Hope and Change personified!
Secondly, they disinfect cities and hose down all the trains overseas, from Mexico to Moscow. Why is New York just starting sanitation in May?This isn’t going to age well.
Wont of the worst hit states is Lousiana and thats a red state
ZD -“Wont of the worst hit states is Lousiana and thats a red state”
Actually it’s half & half.
From news in La.:
“Orleans and Jefferson parishes — where the coronavirus outbreak first took hold in the state — more than 800 of the state’s COVID-19 deaths have been recorded in the two areas.”Now what do you think the political makeup of those 2 areas are?
Why Do Blue areas have more Virus than the rest of the Country?
Oh I know, they didn’t listen to the Administration recomemdations because it’s Repubican!I think it’s because blue states are usually have more crowded urban areas. In general, crowded areas tend to get hit worse, like Bnei Brak and the lower income areas in New York.
And just by the way, the states lifting restrictions now contrary to what the whitehouse recommended doing, are red states.Coronavirus aside, general life expectancy is almost always higher in blue states than in red states.
dasFlamingo -“Coronavirus aside, general life expectancy is almost always higher in blue states than in red states.”
That’s because those states have less Medical Care.
The Major Cities get the most Medical Care in this Country.
That’s because they have More Violence – so they get the Trauma Centers!I admire the effort that many put in to make this a political discussion rather than an issue of public health policies. The reality is, the virus is just starting to invade many rural areas across the US. We have no idea how deadly this virus will be in those areas. (Many of these areas are not served by the medical services that are available in urban areas.) Inner cities and poverty seem to be impacting the spread of the virus. Minorities are heavily impacted, just look at the decimation in Frum communities. The virus doesn’t care whether a state is red or blue .
As Tip O’Neil once said, ‘all politics is local’. It’s up to the voters to challenge their state politicians to develop effective responses to health epidemics. Pick up the phone and call your electeds. When you vote again, decide for yourself who will best serve your interests. Don’t whine organize. In the meantime read a variety of analysis of the disease spread, understand that mathematical models are only as good as the data that is input. Look at the maps available from Johns Hopkins and see where the disease clusters are. Certainly densely populated states may have the highest number of cases and/deaths. That’s just basic probability. What you can do now is enter into conversations with your school administrators on how they can improve access to remote learning, work with them to solve the basic problem of 10 kids two telephones when it comes to classes being delivered by phone. Engage state agencies and your community to figure out how the needs of non neurotypical children and adults can be filled during times like this.
Yea it’s hard being confined to quarters if you have a large family living in a small space and for some it’s even harder not having outside help come into the home. I’m high risk (lupus) and haven’t been out of the house since Feb 27. I’m lucky because I realize the internet can be an enormous help in times like this. I’ve figured out alternative exercise regimes without a gym. I talk to friends about the country either online, via facetime or using the phone. I know staying connected and remaining positive are gifts I give myself for my own personal wellbeing.In the meantime, be kind, be happy, call on outside resources if your family, children and neighbors are having difficulty coping. This too shall pass.
Dear Joseph,
The state of Montana has been spared. (So far.) That is about it. Other than that, you seem to be mentioning that the majority of Americans vote democrat. The tea party wrecked the republicans. Are you insinuating that the virus is politically biased?Dear Joseph,
I have been bombarded by Democrats crying for you to stop, they can not handle it. The remaining three Democrats who do not lie find your statement pointless.Dear Joseph,
Are you still making light of rhetoric?A recent map showing neighborhoods/zip codes hardest hit in the 5 boros shows Boro Park is hard-hit. The conclusion I jump to is, the virus is anti-semitic.
And I guess the news about coronavirus in the White House is fake news.
Dear Joseph,
You seem to have mastered the art of being serious and light at once. I thought only the President can make a direct recommendation while being sarcastic.This thread is too funny and ignores some salient facts. Blue states contribute more than the red states who are dependent on the govt. redistributing money from the blue to red states. Then there is the matter of Covid relief $$, it seems the Red states are at the federal trough gobbling up more funding than the blue.
This thread is too much of a mix between rhetoric and sarcasm for the humor/jokes section. If one would right a parody for Democrats, it would be too over the top for the rants section.
Here is a little ditty!
We shut down (City, state, landmark, or shop, in the U. S. A.),
Because, (same) has coronavirus,
We voted for the President,
And, POP! goes (same).Dear Joseph,
Is this sarcasm, or making light of rhetoric?Anyways, I took the punchline to mean that, although the virus is a global issue, due to a lack [read none (HA HA isn’t that funny?)] of federal leadership it is left for the Governors to fend for themselves.U. S. population is about half the population of Europe. Europe totals about 175,000 deaths. The virus isn’t greener on the other side.
Who could have guessed that the pandemic would switch party lines just as the president restarts his campaign?
Dear Joseph,
Whom is a bigger traitor to our president, Mitt Romney, or the Coronavirus?“The infection rates of March and April were much higher than reported.”
How is it mathematically possible to have a higher ‘rate’ than ‘reported’? Rate of tests that were never done? Rate of people exposed? You could politicize science. But when you politicize math, your going to come across as ignorant at some point. Scientific facts are quirky. Empirical facts are not. If you have more people going up without the rate changing much, that would equal a much higher rate. Which should mean hospitalization rate, and refutes your entire argument. But I give up making sense of your post. It belongs with the President’s assertion that the pandemic is nearing it’s end.Dear Joseph,
So the higher rate of before is showing up now?Hospitalizations do show up later. The situation in Texas and Arizona is dire. Daven for them.
As expected, this didn’t age well. Texas and Florida just closed their bars today. Houston is one day to running out of ICU beds.
The US has now passed Iteland and Netherlands.
“Houston is one day to running out of ICU beds.”
Interesting. I thought i heard someone from Texas say just yesterday that those reports are wrong.
Dear N0,
Let me apologize for another horrible typo. #1877054 Should read hospitalizations do not show up later.Nom- you seem to repeatedly suggest people are not davening for/concerned about/empathetic toward or concerned with those suffering and lost from the pandemic. I don’t know where your misinformation comes from but you are wrong. Maybe that is true of the people in your circle but it is not true of the general frum velt
Dear Syag,
That was not my intention here. My point was that politicization is the wrong reaction. (As well as data spinning.)Does anyone want to start a fund to give Joseph a one-way ticket to Florida or Texas, so he can be safe from coronavirus? (I don’t, because I understand that it would raise his risk of death.)
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