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    rescue
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    Always ask questions someone has to pay you to learn so not sure that’s the fallback for everyone lol.
    You’ll live off the govement or your in laws. That’s sounds responsible.
    Put all the stress in your in laws. That sound very biblical.
    Or the govement =usury
    Whatever it is sounds delusional

    #2533166

    rescue> Put all the stress in your in laws. That sound very biblical.
    Or the govement =usury

    Of course you can support yourself and learn. Not a new idea. But as long as it is private and volunteer, there should not be a problem. Rambam learned while his brother supported him, and worked after that (and supported his brother’s family). I would have no problem supporting a Talmid Chochom as a S-I-L. It is just most of current learning is not at the level but it is “Torah as medicine” (idea endorsed by gemorah) – to prevent people going off the derech. For example, when I had please discussing various bochurim with their rebbes, they would say “he is learning”. What? How? “like everyone else. great”…

    Maybe, things will look better if we honestly requalify expense from “learning” to saving lives of people who will drown in modern society without being locked in yeshivos. Then, this expense becomes more justified. And then we sould remember that the best tzedokah is helping people to leave the tzedokah rolls – help them acquire work skills and social skills to live in the world without going OTD.

    #2533459
    rescue
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    The question is why would people go otd so quickly if our lifestyle is supposedly the truth. Lol something that delicate that can’t withstand real life prob is standing on shaky ground

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    > The question is why would people go otd so quickly if our lifestyle is supposedly the truth.

    right. It is a difficult balance – if you introduce, esp kids, to the world too early, you are risking OTD, or at least acquisition of undesirable views and middos. If you don’t introduce at all – then R Soloveitchik’s question from the 1950s still stands: if we claim to have truth from Hashem, why are we hiding in caves.
    Middle road is hard.

    #2533782
    rescue
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    It’s not that hard it requires common sense and understanding that extrmism doesn’t lead to morality

    #2534157
    Chaim87
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    Like I said , I disagree and think camp is a necessity as part of a child’s chinuch and well being , aside for the need of structure .
    Most nursing home administrators are just doing their job and not busy with the chachmas you mention . That’s just one of many. I don’t see it less honest than a lawyer.
    Overall, the point remains that the degree won’t help schools stay open. The real cost per child is roughly $12k . That’s $60k for 5 kids. If your take home pay is $120k after taxes, in corporate the math doesn’t add up. And so whether you have a degree or not the schools are subject to donors. Sadly, the schools such as this one that don’t have wealthy parents are stuck

    #2534671

    Nursing home admin earnings, as any margin-based business, highly depends on difference between sales and costs. So, yetzer hara is high. And the cost include wellbeing of human being. A difficult proposition. A lawyer is paid by hour. Yes, you can get more hours by helping doing something not-so-legal; but you can also get enough business by being known for your integrity.

    If you want to have good, cheaper schools, you can. Use online for general education with some supervision; combine a couple of classes for Jewish classes. Plus most schools do get some donations, especially if they are doing a good job. So, if each parent chis in 8-10K per child, this should do it.

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