October 29, 2009 3:14 am at 3:14 am #670492
ny mom. trueOctober 29, 2009 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #670493
I have aproblem. I put my baby daughter in her carseat and when I driving my merry way, all of a sudden I see her next to me. she is like Houdini!She worms her way out. I do not know what to do .None of my kids did this.October 29, 2009 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #670494
Chops, that is a problem!
My rule has always been, unless everyone is buckled up, we don’t move – no matter if a little one was crying, whining, screaming, or complaining. And believe me, it has not always been easy to do, especially when we are running late! But I have never had to deal with your problem.
How old is she? Is she old enough to understand that you will pull over each time she gets out of her car seat? If Mommy is not driving, then we can’t get to the store, playgroup, or wherever you are going. This might be difficult at first and you’ll need to leave yourself extra time to get anywhere. But if she’s old enough to learn how the release mechanism works on her car seat, I have a feeling she could understand this cause and effect.
Hatzlochoh!October 29, 2009 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #670495mazcaMember
You are definitly right NY MOM, it is better for the children to cry because they are buckled up instead of crying because they got hurt. It is the obligation and mitzvah of every person that drives to make sure all passengers are safe.October 30, 2009 1:24 am at 1:24 am #670496
I completly agree if you are strict with the car seat they wont cry or ake any tantrum when they learn that it wont manipulate youOctober 30, 2009 1:35 am at 1:35 am #670497
Thank you, Mazca. I wish everyone would think like that!October 30, 2009 1:48 am at 1:48 am #670498October 30, 2009 2:15 am at 2:15 am #670499
chops, if you have older kids, she is probably copying them, explain to your kids that they are an example and to put on the seat belts, and for sure she will copy there ways,
good luck!November 1, 2009 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #670500
Chops,maybe you should change the type of car seat?November 1, 2009 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #670501haifagirlParticipant
And chops, make sure you wear your seatbelt too.November 2, 2009 4:11 am at 4:11 am #670502
put uncle moishys safety on torah island buckle up your seatbelt song.November 3, 2009 2:31 am at 2:31 am #670503
i think were giving you very good advise chops especially haifagirlNovember 3, 2009 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #670504
Hi All! Just wanted to say a few words about toys, safety, and encouraging your kids to put their stuff away.
It can be difficult at times to get the kids to clean up, and sometimes it is easier to just do it yourself. But what about when you are exhausted? How will you handle it? The temptation is just to leave it and do it tomorrow. But if we don’t train our children to tidy up after themselves, there can be unintended consequences.
I read an article, not long ago, about a frum woman who fell down a flight of steps, and she literally broke her back, because one of her children had left something on the steps. And she was not old, but a middle-aged busy mother. It is not uncommon to hear of elderly people breaking hips due to a fall, and one of my children broke a bone when he fell the wrong way on his hand.
It not only looks better when the toys have been put away, it is really safer for everyone. I know that I also have a ways to go in this area, so I am not “mussar”ing everyone out there, but kind of “talking aloud” and letting everyone else “hear”, too.November 5, 2009 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #670505yoshiMember
Chops, how snug are the restraints when your child is in the car seat? If the buckles aren’t undone when she escapes, she may not be in tight enough. Also, make sure she is in the proper car seat for her weight, and age.
NY Mom, Thanks for that helpful reminder and for keeping this thread alive.November 6, 2009 3:38 am at 3:38 am #670506
yoshi: You’re welcome 😉
This is a topic close to my heart, and I believe people should think more about safety and prevention. I really think so much injury and tragedy could be prevented (with Hashem’s help), if people would take seriously much of what we have discussed here.
Thanks so much for starting the thread!November 9, 2009 1:33 am at 1:33 am #670507LAerMember
Chops, as a rule, you shouldn’t be able to fit more than one finger in between the straps and your child’s body. Also, now that the weather is constantly changing (at least where I live), you need to adjust the straps all the time – one day the kid is in a sweatshirt, the next in a coat, and the next in just a T-shirt, so the straps don’t fit the same from day to day. It’s a pain to have to always fix the straps, but it’s worth it…November 9, 2009 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #670508mazcaMember
Could we have a lesson Adult Safety Laws? We worry about the kids but we adult do not have any training whatsoever in dangers.November 10, 2009 4:52 am at 4:52 am #670509
never play with fire,including adults i know someone made a bbq and got burned.November 10, 2009 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #670510
Mazca: Thank you for your excellent suggestion.
Much of what we have discussed on this thread is really applicable to adults, as well as children, but in a modified version. For example, adults don’t need special seats in a car, but they do need to buckle up every time they drive or ride in a car.
I think one thing that is totally applicable to adults and well worth mentioning is not to drive while distracted! And that refers to talking on cell phones, TEXTING, checking voicemail, or even just fooling around with the radio. If it is necessary to do any of the above, pull over to the side first or do it before you pull out!
Sometimes I see people doing stupid things while driving, including putting on make-up, reading a newspaper, or trying a difficult/illegal/just-plain-stupid maneuver while holding a cell phone to their ear! Please, please, please be aware that such potentially dangerous actions can have implications for a lifetime – for you or for someone not even riding in your car, just minding his own business, crossing the street. And of course, it should go without saying (but I’ll say it anyway!) one should NEVER drive after drinking alcohol.
Also, as Health suggested way back in this thread, it is a good idea for all adults to take some sort of basic safety course, like first aid or CPR.
Anyone else want to get up on a soapbox? 🙂November 11, 2009 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #670511
OK. No one else has a safety soapbox?
Well, I have another tip for adults, and probably targeted more to the mothers out there.
If you do frying, (as in chicken cutlets/schnitzel) make it a rule that no children are allowed to come near Mommy while she is frying. With hot oil that sometimes splatters, that is a very dangerous situation for little ones and also for yourself.
If you do get hot oil splattered on your hand (or anywhere) immediately run it under cold water. If c”v a child gets splattered, cold running water plus call Hatzoloh.
So careful with that hot oil, all you culinary artists out there!
That’s it for NY Mom’s safety tip of the day. Thank you for joining us and have a good day. 😉November 11, 2009 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #670512
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER pour water on an oil fire!!November 11, 2009 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #670513
NEVERNovember 11, 2009 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #670514ronrsrMember
Also, be sure to use the right fire extinguisher on an electrical or a grease fire. Most fire extinguishers in the US have their category printed somewhere on the fire extinguisher:
*Class A extinguishers are for ordinary combustible materials such as paper, wood, cardboard, and most plastics. The numerical rating on these types of extinguishers indicates the amount of water it holds and the amount of fire it can extinguish. &
*Class B fires involve flammable or combustible liquids such as gasoline, kerosene, grease and oil. The numerical rating for class B extinguishers indicates the approximate number of square feet of fire it can extinguish.
*Class C fires involve electrical equipment, such as appliances, wiring, circuit breakers and outlets. Never use water to extinguish class C fires – the risk of electrical shock is far too great! Class C extinguishers do not have a numerical rating. The C classification means the extinguishing agent is non-conductive.
*Class D fire extinguishers are commonly found in a chemical laboratory. They are for fires that involve combustible metals, such as magnesium, titanium, potassium and sodium. These types of extinguishers also have no numerical rating, nor are they given a multi-purpose rating – they are designed for class D fires only
Using a class A (water) extinguisher on an electrical or grease fire can be life-threatening.
remember the acronym PASS for extinguisher use:
P – Pull the pin.
A – Aim at the BASE of the fire — that is where the fuel for the fire is.
S – Squeeze the lever slowly.
S – Sweep from side-to-side until the fire is out.November 11, 2009 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #670515
Thank you Mod 80 and ronrsr for that very important information. I just checked my fire extinguishers to make sure they’re appropriate for grease/oil fires.
Also if you do a search on oil or grease fires you can find video clips that will show you what can happen if one puts water on an oil fire. Very scary.November 11, 2009 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #670516
Okay, don’t ever leave any aerosole like Pam next to the stove while cooking, it could explode if it gets too hot! Also if making a barbecue check and make sure that there is nothing flammable like empty paint cans nearby.
If someone goes on fire roll on the ground and try to smother the fire with a sweater or whatever you have nearby, throw water on the victim and if the don’t take off clothing unless you’re sure the burns didn’t get to the skin.November 11, 2009 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #670517
As long as were talking about pam and fire, don’t spray pam or similar on food while being barbecued, roasted or whenever there is a nearby flameNovember 11, 2009 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #670518
To put out pan fires cover them and shut off stove or throw baking soda on it after you shut off stove.November 15, 2009 4:43 am at 4:43 am #670519
To continue with safety information geared towards adults, this occurred to me now that the winter is creeping up on us:
When the snow and ice begin to arrive, please be a responsible homeowner and make sure to shovel and put down de-icer on the walkways up to, and the sidewalk in front of your house. Other than the fact that you are legally responsible to do so, and can be held liable if you don’t, it can also be a matter of pikuach nefesh.
You may be thinking “Pikuach Nefesh? That is an exaggeration! OK, someone can get hurt, break a bone at worst, but pikuach nefesh?”
And I will say to you, “No, I am NOT exaggerating!” I know someone whose relative slipped on ice, hit their head on the concrete, and ended up in a coma. We are talking critical condition.
So please, please, please be responsible! If you can’t shovel, then have your kids do it or hire someone. And everyone be careful during icy conditions!
Oh! And if you need to drive in icy weather, DRIVE SLOWLY!!!! If your car starts to skid on ice, you can get your car in control much easier if you are driving slowly. Can’t emphasize this enough.
Have a safe and healthy winter.November 15, 2009 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #670520EequalsmcsquaredMember
Thank you for being osekes b’tzorchei tzibur, NY Mom!November 16, 2009 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #670521
Eequalsmcsquared: 🙂November 16, 2009 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #670522
Also, you must have working smoke detectors on every floor, besides for the extiguishers. Practice an escape plan with your family. Every room must have two exits, eg. door/window. If you have or live upstairs, you must have a fire escape or a fire ladder besides for the regular stairway!November 16, 2009 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #670523workingMember
Health- i am just curious. Did you get the whole family together and plan an escape plan??? I just want to know how you go about doing such a thing. Its nice to read but in actuallity….November 16, 2009 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #670524
To working- there is such a thing as a fire safety course. I’ve been trained to give such a course, but to go into details here is beyond the scope of a safety forum.November 26, 2009 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm #670525
Parents: When serving a meal to your children, please check to make sure that the food is not too hot for your little ones.
The following recently happened in my home: I was serving soup to my 6-yr-old and didn’t realize how hot is was. I had let it sit to cool off, but not long enough. The hot bowl of soup was tipped over by an elbow and spilled onto my daughter. It spilled onto her lap and her chest. I immediately got cold water onto it, and B”H it was not serious. (Chasdei Hashem!) But I hate to think what would of happened c”v had I not allowed it to cool off a bit already.
I am telling all of you this so that all should be aware and prevent this from happening to others.November 26, 2009 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #670526smartcookieMember
As a general rule, I never serve my kids food that I didn’t temperature test with my own fingers. It may not sound too great but I actually touch their food and check if its not too hot.(Wash hands first please!
That includes when making them warm milk bottles too, I feel the milk to make sure its not too hot.
We gotta be really careful. Any silly little burn on the tongue can hurt for days.November 26, 2009 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #670527
Sometimes if the soup is too hot for the kids I throw an ice cube in it.November 26, 2009 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm #670528
You can’t do that on Shabbos.
Also, when carrying hot soup to the table -keep a sturdy plate under it, so if it spills a little you don’t get burnt.November 26, 2009 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #670529smartcookieMember
Yes mybat! That’s what I do too!November 26, 2009 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #670530feivelParticipant
yes you can put an icecube into hot soup on Shabbos
see the 4 volume grey books, forgot the author, for exampleNovember 27, 2009 1:40 am at 1:40 am #670531feivelParticipant
By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt
For final rulings, consult your Rav
QUESTION: If one wants to cool off boiling hot tea or soup on Shabbos, may he put an ice cube into the cup or bowl?
DISCUSSION: If the tea cup or the soup bowl is a keli shelishi, as is most often the case, then it is permitted according to all views to put an ice cube in it. If, however, the cup or bowl is only a keli sheini and the tea or soup is piping hot, putting ice in may be a possible issur min ha-Torah and should be avoidedNovember 27, 2009 3:54 am at 3:54 am #670532oomisParticipant
See what diverse opinions we got here, from no you can’t, to yes, you can, to only in a specific kli. etc. All this serves to highlight is the best advice – check with your own LOR.November 27, 2009 5:23 am at 5:23 am #670533
I figuered you were talking about a klei shelishi, but even so this psak is not so pashut. First of all, not everyone holds the ladle is a keli. (Even though most people are Makel.) (Look up Shulchan Aruch- Hilchos bishul.) Second of all, there might be a problem of Nolad – to melt the ice cube (changing its’ matter state). You are allowed to do Nolad for a Tzoirech godol, but I’m not sure what the Tzoreich godol is here since you can cool it off by putting it into the fridge or freezer.December 11, 2009 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm #670534
Thank you so much to YWN for <a=href http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/43216/Important+Safety+Messages+For+Chanukah.html>this message about safety!
Yasher koach and a freilichen Chanuka!December 23, 2009 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #670535
Just wanted to get this thread back up on the big board with another safety tip regarding the snow:
If you are out there shoveling with your kids, please make sure to set guidelines about keeping one’s distance from swinging shovels. Some shovels are metal or tipped with metal and if a child gets too close they can c”v get hurt.
Also, please see this post about shoveling and putting out salt to prevent ice and accidents resulting from slipping on ice.
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