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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Igros Moshe Yoreh Deiah 3:88:

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Igros Moshe Orach Chaim 1:109:

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    [Emphases added]

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Nodah B’yehuda (Mahdura Kamma Yoreh Deiah siman 55):

    ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??????? ???????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?? ??? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?’ ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ???? ??? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ????????? ??”? ??? ?? ???? ????? ??????? ??????

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    Joseph
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    Quote from Maran Rashkbhag Hagaon HaRav Moshe Feinstein ?????????:

    “There are people who maintain that Talmidei Chachomim are not qualified to decide political matters, that Gedolei Yisroel should limit themselves to Torah and Halacha. Such people cannot be considered within the Torah camp. One might well say ignoring the advice of a Talmid Chochom is far worse than violating a commandment. One who violates a commandment because he is too weak to resist temptation, at least knows that his action is wrong. By contrast, one who ignores the advice of a Talmid Chochom denies that a Torah scholar’s wisdom is superior. This is a far more serious breach.”

    (Reb Moshe, p. 123)

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    Igros Moshe, Even HaEzer 2:1

    “My outlook is based only on knowledge of Torah whose ways are truth, without any influence of secular studies.”

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Regarding the quote from the biography, see the introduction to chelek 8 which says:

    ??????? ????? ?? ????? ???? ????????? ?? ???? ????? ????? ?? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ??????? ?????????

    http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14679&st=&pgnum=33

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Yet, he sat on a moetzes which decided klal inyanum.

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    He also paskened shailos, yet see what I quoted from him at the top of this page.

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Rambam Hilchos Avoda Zara 2:3:

    ?? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? ????? ??????? ???? ????

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    #1076837
    Patur Aval Assur
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    DaasYochid:

    It’s interesting you bring that up. I saw a piece in there on Parshas Vayeira and that was actually what my quote of the Noda B’yehuda was meant to primarily address.

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Specifically where it says:

    ?? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ?? ?? ???? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? ????? ??????

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Correction:

    It was Vaeira, not Vayeira.

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    Patur Aval Assur
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    Beis Habechira Yoma 66b:

    ??? ???????? ????? ???? ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ???

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    Lichora, the maharsha was cholek on Rav shmuel hanagid’s view of aggado

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    If someone could post the quotes from his(the Maharsha’s) hakdomos, I believe there was one in the hakdomo to his chiddushei aggados about ?? ??…, and in the hakdomo to chiddushei halocho about how one must put in as much effort into aggada as into halocho. Not necessarily a stirah With Rav shmuel hanagid though

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