May 31, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #597186TorahJooMember
Hey all. I’m a guy in shidduchim. I’m told i’m a fun person with great personality, i love learning and I’m a serious jew. However, I have a stuttering problem. Obviously this becomes apparent on dates pretty quickly. I just wanted to throw a few questions out there and see what people think. If you were set up with someone on a date, and very soon into that first date, you notice he/she has a stuttering problem, how would you want that person to react. Would you want them to ignore their problem, or bring it up and discuss it openly and casually. On the one hand, it might make for awkward and uncomfortable converstaion. But on the other hand, it might make for an interesting icebreaker. And do you think discussing it openly would gain your respect or not necessarily? (This doesn’t have to be in shidduchim.)
Thanks in advance for your responsesMay 31, 2011 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #773280Dovid S.Member
Hey. I am personally friends with a number of people who stutter. It’s the neshama that matters, not outside appearances/habits, at least in my view (Remember that Moshe Rabeinu had problems with speech as well, that didn’t stop him from being the biggest Navi ever). Whether to say or not to beforehand… I’d say it depends on how you think it would affect your date. Good luck!
Bhatzlacha, DovidMay 31, 2011 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #773281ZeesKiteParticipant
I don’t see any stuttering in your post.
If I’m not mistaken, there are methods of correcting that. I think there were threads about that.May 31, 2011 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #773282miritchkaMember
If i went out with a guy who stuttered, which i have, i’d try not to let it become an issue. i mean, it does make a difference if the guy would sort of ‘break the ice’ instead of making a big deal about it or waiting for me to say something. The guy i went out with did make a small joke about it and that was it. Our date went okay and his stutter wasnt an issue. (no, i did not end up marrying him, but he was nice!!)
good luck!May 31, 2011 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #773283veteranMember
I heard a story about a stutterer in shidduchim:
A Rosh Yeshiva recommended a certain bochur in his yeshiva to a local man inquiring on behalf of his daughter. The RY listed the bochur’s qualities as a masmid and a baal kishron (etc) and the date was set up. The bochur happened to have a stuttering problem. When he arrived at the girl’s house and knocked at the door, the father of the girl opened the door. The nervous bochur tried to introduce himself, but what came out was “M… m… m…” and it was a full 5 minutes before he managed to say “M… m.. my name is Levi”.
The next day, the father told the RY what had happened and said that he will not go forward with the shidduch. The RY asked him why not, his stutter is not so bad most of the time and he is a fine bochur. The father said, “I am not saying no to him because of his stutter, but because he is a fool.” “Why is he a fool? On the contrary he is known to be quite smart”. The father replied, “No he is a fool. He should have started to talk 5 minutes before he knocked!”May 31, 2011 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #773284zaidy78Participant
As a stutterer myself, (and very happily married), the less self conscience you are about it, the better off you are. Just ignore it. She will obviously notice it, and if it bothers her, she will say no. If she can see beyond your speech impairment, then she is someone who really deserves you!
Hatzlacha RabbaMay 31, 2011 5:25 pm at 5:25 pm #773285minyan galMember
Perhaps a few sessions with a speech therapist may help you. I know that it is more difficult to remedy the problem as an adult, but there are many tips that you may be able to obtain that can reduce your stuttering. Even more importantly, a good therapist can reduce your anxiety about stuttering.May 31, 2011 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #773286aries2756Participant
So why not let the prospective girl know before your date. Don’t you call her on the phone to set up the date? Isn’t it better to ‘Not” surprise her? You say you are a fun person so why not use that to your advantage? Turn on the charm from the get go and let her know that you have this problem but B”H that is really the only problem that Hashem has challenged you with and you have not let it get in your way. If she can give you a chance you can promise her a good time, etc. If you are not uncomfortable about it she shouldn’t’ be. If you don’t make it an issue, she shouldn’t and if you are not nervous, you won’t make it worse. So don’t make it the elephant in the room.May 31, 2011 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #773287A Heimishe MomParticipant
Stuttering is something one can get used to. You can joke about it if you feel comfortable doing so. If she can’t get used to it then it isn’t meant to be. Same as a big nose or bald headMay 31, 2011 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #773288RedNails19Participant
Stuttering sahoul be the least of your problems, i think we all can agree that we know at least 5 people who stutter and we come to love the person just the same or it just becomes unnoticed after a while…i think a few close people in my life stutter and i dont even realize it, sometimes people are like- hey, doesnt that peson stuter- (eyes rasied/confused look ) what? seriously, i dont think so, even if they did i dont notice it!May 31, 2011 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #773289YW Moderator-80Member
my brother stutters
i dont even notice anymoreMay 31, 2011 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #773290mikehall12382MemberMay 31, 2011 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #773292RedNails19Participant
mike- agreedMay 31, 2011 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #773293veteranMember
If we’re just listing names of people with stutters, don’t forget Prince Albert/King George VI.June 1, 2011 2:14 am at 2:14 am #773294ilovetheholylandParticipant
i think that saying something beforehand and talking about it openly would make me feel more comfortable than just letting me decide on my own what to make of it…and just remember that everyone has their shortcomings.June 1, 2011 5:05 am at 5:05 am #773295yetzertovMember
Aries2756:not sure what age group or which circles you run in.I can only speak for myself. In our yeshivish circles,nowadays.boys do not call the girls before dates,unless they reach a point that they are serious w eachother and then they’ll drop the shadchan. It can be a comedy: boys running late,he calls his mom,who calls shadchan,who calls girls mom who tells her daughter oh boys running late!by that point the boy has arrived! So yes, I wish the boy could still be able to call the girl!June 1, 2011 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #773296GeshmakManParticipant
You’ll be fine IYH, I had/have the same issue and BH am happily married with children.
I would recommend getting some quick therapy courses and just go with it. “Mi Sam Peh La Eeleym?” Its all in Hashem’s hands anyway (like everything else!).
Hatzlacha!June 1, 2011 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm #773297WolfishMusingsParticipant
Here is a list of famous people who have had stuttering disorders in their lives.
While I can’t vouch for the entire list, I’d be willing to bet that a good portion of them went on to find spouses and have good, happy marriages (and careers).
The WolfJune 1, 2011 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #773298adorableParticipant
whoever marries you is lucky to have someone who is so honest with himself and knows himself so well
good luckJune 1, 2011 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #773299Pac-ManMember
adorable: Maybe you and TorahJoo??June 1, 2011 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #773301adorableParticipant
no thanks. its nice of you to think about others though but i dont think that is something i can deal with.June 1, 2011 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #773302TorahJooMember
Thanks all for your responses. For all those who suggested it, i have gotten therapy (a very effective one at that), and using it, I can probably close to eliminate the problem. It’s very time consuming and habitual change, so it takes a while and i don’t have time to wait. Thanks for all your input
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