Daven With A Hat BeYichidus or Without it with a Minyan

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  • #1082153

    moish01
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    problem is, that means i have to be a good host. not in a hosting mood.

    #1082154

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    well since the title was changed by mod##, i think moish wears a hat only when he’s in pajamas, as was being discussed afew pages back.

    #1082155

    teen
    Member

    moish01: whats with you and the milkshakes did i miss something?

    #1082156

    anonymisss
    Participant

    teen, yup, seems like you did miss something. BIG! This might be the coffee room for people like you and me, but for our good friend moish, this is the “milkshake room.” That sounds weird, I don’t like it. Moish, I think you’re going to have to start drinking coffee. sorry.

    ~a~

    #1082157

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    teen: he lives on milkshakes!!!!

    #1082158

    teen
    Member

    anonymiuss: i dont drink coffee….then i dont drink milshakes either lol

    asdf: oh…i get it…sorta 😛

    #1082159

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moish- you have no idea how creepy this weekend was for me. Every step of the way there was something that happened to remind me of you. I went to a speech and there was a part that I wished I could have copied down- twas very inspiring and expressed what I want to say PERFECTLY. I listed to some music on motzei shabbos and every song had a theme that was so applicable and insightful- as if it was written with us in mind…. I read an article in the paper that gave me the chills- that’s how accurate it was…. on and on…

    I don’t know if it’s because I’m more intuned or Hashem is sending me message after message that I just can’t ignore. Either way, Hashem won’t let me forget about you and I’m still davening for you….

    #1082160

    moish01
    Member

    areivim, anyone ever tell you you’re crazy?

    #1082161

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    areivim: you’re starting to freak me out.$

    #1082162

    myshadow
    Member

    start a thread-let’s cheer up moish

    #1082163

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moish- yeah, you… twice already! but you’re not the first, nor the last… 😉

    qwerty- why? you wished I was thinkin o you? 😉

    myshadow- be my guest

    bye bye ppl- outta here

    #1082164

    moish01
    Member

    let’s not. i think moish doesn’t wanna be cheered up that badly.

    #1082165

    moish01
    Member

    areivim, i thought i might have mentioned it once before.

    #1082167

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    areivim: yes, i do wish it was about me.$ 🙂

    really though, i too care about moish, but i don’t dream about him.$

    moish: if areivim’s doing this, he must really care about you.$

    #1082169

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moish- what’s gonna be????

    the cast is a comin oooooffffffffffffff…………………………………………..

    #1082170

    moish01
    Member

    thank GOD!

    by the way you didn’t see my question in the general shmooze, did you? maybe i should move it here (it’s more private…;))

    #1082171

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    i read General Shmooz- don’t remember a question though. Please post here (mods please allow- thanks! 🙂

    if not- tell me how long ago it was posted

    #1082172

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    fahget it- responded in general shmooz already

    #1082173

    moish01
    Member

    here but i’m gonna add to it

    is it better to know a halacha and then to go against it, or not to know it altogether? either way you’re gonna be doing the same thing.

    i’m remembering a few points.

    A) if you know someone won’t listen you’re not mechuyav to tell them. does that apply to yourself?

    B) but on the other hand, that story with the cofeitz chaim with that guy who didn’t wanna buy his sefer because he said it’s impossible to not speak loshon hora. the CC answered him that even if he would just sigh after reading it, it’s worth it.

    #1082174

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    if you know someone won’t listen you’re not mechuyav to tell them. does that apply to yourself?

    If you know yourself, but don’t tell yourself, you are just LYING to yourself. How can you know but not know?

    #1082175

    Curious
    Member

    I’ll go with choice B.

    It shows the desire to have the knowledge available for the time when you want to implement it, as opposed to never even wanting that opportunity to utilize the knowledge.

    #1082176

    moish01
    Member

    yeah but then it’s b’mezid – which is far worse than a shoggeg. so you’re basically setting yourself up.

    #1082177

    moish01
    Member

    sjs – contrary to popular belief, i don’t know everything. but i could find out if i asked or tried learning (not likely, but it’s possible)

    #1082178

    mw13
    Participant

    moish, i’m pretty sure it’s better to know it, because as you said, you get schar for just feeling guilty.

    #1082179

    Curious
    Member

    I don’t think it’s a shogeig if you had the opportunity to learn the correct thing and yet decided against it.

    It’s lke saying “I’d prefer not to learn Hilchos Shabbos so that I am not knowingly over an aveirah.” No go…

    BTW I posted that CC story, can’t believe you (not you specifically, but rather anyone) remembered enough to be able to repeat it. 🙂

    #1082180

    moish01
    Member

    curious, but some things are technical. you needa learn them through. not like “can i turn on the light?” “no.”

    mw13, that’s what the CC said in that scenario. but what about the other side?

    and curious, don’t doubt my memory here… i wish it were weaker. you know what it’s like doing something wrong and in the middle you have all the mefarshim and halachos and punishments and what not running through your mind? you don’t wanna know. i can’t even enjoy it half the time. trust me, i wish i could forget some stuff.

    #1082181

    moish01
    Member

    hey curious, i don’t remember you posting that story. (jk!)

    happens to be, i knew it from before

    #1082182

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    moish: you know what it’s like doing something wrong and in the middle you have all the mefarshim and halachos and punishments and what not running through your mind? you don’t wanna know. i can’t even enjoy it half the time. trust me, i wish i could forget some stuff.

    i had that too, it’s torturous!!! i’m not ganna get in details with my thing, put the memory is painful!!!

    #1082183

    Curious
    Member

    moish: curious, but some things are technical. you needa learn them through

    Agreed. I am far from a perfect person. There is so so much that I need to improve. Be it mitzvos between me and G-d, or me and fellow man. Just thinking about where I can use improvement makes me dizzy. So I’ve decided to pick one thing that I’d like to make a real effort to improve. In essence I am putting a lot of other faults/weakneeses on the back burner, temporarily (hopefully). However, as long as I am making some sort of effort, I know I’m in the right direction.

    If I would decide to now learn hilchos brachos, hilchos shabbos, methods to improve prayer, techniques to combat laziness, etc.. I’d never start anywhere and I’d accomplish nothing.

    Pick one thing, the smaller and easier the better. Success in a small area gives you confidence to succeed at something tougher.

    …Gosh, did I just sound like areivim??

    BTW, I use this psychology when I’m too lazy to run. I tell myself, just do 1 mile. Then when I finish that I feel so good, I try another mile, and then another…

    #1082184

    Curious
    Member

    Guess what moish. I’ve learnt that English sefer 3x and each time I read the stories/anecdotes it’s like I’m hearing it for the first time again… Talk about short-term memory.

    #1082185

    moish01
    Member

    curious, is that your aspiration?

    asdfghjkl, maybe you get it. maybe you don’t.

    is this what you meant? YW Moderator-25

    #1082188

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    moish: i do get it completely!!! i wasn’t always the person i am today!!! it took a lot for me to get back on track!!!

    #1082189

    Curious
    Member

    is that your aspiration?

    Which part are you referring to – sounding like Areivim?

    If so, no, though I do admire Arevim’s talent in communicating so well. I would never be able to match him.

    Regardless, I am the last person to give mussar, I think I was talking to myself mostly 😉 (Realize I stay away from most controversial threads?)

    #1082190

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    Curious: you & avairim might be a cr schidduch!!! hee hee!!!

    #1082191

    moish01
    Member

    gotcha! YW Moderator-25

    asdfghjkl, that’s why i said “maybe”

    curious, yeah i noticed.

    #1082192

    moish01
    Member

    thank, mod25

    #1082193

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    sjs – contrary to popular belief, i don’t know everything. but i could find out if i asked or tried learning (not likely, but it’s possible)

    Well, if you are saying that you don’t ask to find out if its treif, thats different than knowing its treif and lying to yourself.

    Me personally, I don’t ask for a psak for something I know I am not going to follow. Why? I don’t think its fair to take advantage of the system. So if I know I am going to do XYZ wrong if I am told its wrong, its not fair of me to find out if its right. If I would listen, I ask.

    Is this right? Probably not. But I just don’t like to take advantage of the system.

    #1082194

    moish01
    Member

    oh so looks like we do the same thing!

    #1082195

    moish01
    Member

    hey everyone as of friday morning i won’t be under construction anymore! you gonna make me a party?? (chanukas habayis or what?!)

    #1082196

    moish, we’ll make as many parties for you as neccesary if it’ll avoid us needing to add you to the “Come back to the CR” thread after Friday. You better stay here!

    #1082197

    moish01
    Member

    hey don’t be too quick to offer too much… i’m gonna need a LOT of parties, you know…

    #1082198

    its well worth it, moish.

    #1082200

    moish01
    Member

    well, i’m not going cold turkey, if that’s what you meant. i’ll be around.

    can’t wait to play football!

    #1082201

    myshadow
    Member

    moish do us a favor and stay away from football for a lil!! We’re gona miss you though! Better stick around!!

    Gota bounce bye!!

    #1082202

    moish01
    Member

    no no no no NO! i live for football – there’s no way i’m staying away! don’t worry, i’ll be fine.

    #1082203

    Belev Echad
    Participant

    hey moish, what happens when ur body’s not teenaged enough to play football? what’ll u live for then?

    #1082204

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    I’m really not that cruel… just had to say it

    #1082205

    Curious
    Member

    moish – Don’t you have to go to PT after? Aren’t your muscles like mush now?

    #1082206

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    moish: lucky you, i wish mine was coming off on friday too.$

    #1082207

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    moish: wow excitin. that friday it’ll be off!!! i hope to still see ya around here buddy!!!

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