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  • #1082208

    kapusta
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    areivim lol!

    qwerty- any end in sight yet?

    #1082209

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    kapusta: qwertyuiop only got his cast on on sunday!!!

    #1082210

    moish01
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    Belev Echad, i don’t plan for the future – i live for the moment. that’s not gonna ever happen to me

    areivimzehlazeh, if you dare daven that i break another bone you’re dead meat

    Curious, my muscles are not mush nothing. there’s no way i’m gonna waste my life at therapy. i’ll be fine – sports is therapy anyway.

    qwertyuiop, if i could live through it, you could too. (by the way i thought you just broke a finger. why the splint on your forearm?? what a drag.)

    asdfghjkl, yeah i’m looking forward!

    #1082211

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    moish01: he broke his wrist!!!

    #1082212

    moish01
    Member

    oh right! my bad. yeah i feel bad for qwertyuiop. except he doesn’t play ball all that often so what’s the big deal? jk!

    #1082216

    amichai
    Participant

    moish, do you really think you’ll be running around so soon? don’t wanna burst your bubble but you ain’t being realistic. it might take a couple weeks till you can run properly and you sure do not wanna get tackled too quickly. refua shlaima.

    #1082221

    moish01
    Member

    myshadow, but that wouldn’t be any fun, would it? actually, i hope they don’t!

    #1082227

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    moish: you were correct, i did break a finger, actually about 4 of them, but this time my wrist.$

    asdfghjkl: i too play basketball every few weeks.$

    kapusta: get back to me in about 5 weeks.$

    #1082251

    anonymisss
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    resurrection of the dead

    ~a~

    #1082252

    kapusta
    Participant

    anonymisss thanx, another place for me to scream at moish, but I cant believe you would do something like that to him, I thought you were on the same side

    #1082253

    anonymisss
    Participant

    same side? don’t get it-whose side of what?

    ~a~

    #1082254

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    anonymisss: yay your here too!!!

    #1082256

    moish01
    Member

    hey areivim i’m putting this here even though it’s been neglected for a while…

    a pushed myself to daven mincha yesterday. i feel like it’s the worst thing i’ve done in a while. i walked away feeling like a piece of garbage (appreciate that i moderated it myself, mods!) it meant nothing to me. what a waste of time. seriously. i’m not just saying that. it’s so stupid to push myself when it’s empty.

    (i remembered yaale v’yovoh though!)

    #1082257

    Belev Echad
    Participant

    ok fine moish, so it left u feeling empty. so big whoop. there was nothing there, all emptyness and it was a big waste of time.

    i can hear that.

    except when you come up to shamayim, and they’re nearing the list of all the good things you’ve done, and are about to decree what level you’ll go to, and you are frantic, desperately trying to find something else….and then WOW!!!

    you will be ECSTATIC when they find this. your schar, even for doing the mitzvah with no drive, no desire, and a whole lotta emptyness, STILL COUNTS.

    so for now, it may not have been worth it. but who cares? we’re not living for now anyway. when u get up there, you’ll be glad you did it.

    #1082259

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    belev echad: good answer!!$

    #1082260

    kapusta
    Participant

    moish if I’m allowed to comment on anything regarding your spirituality anymore it has been said (supposedly even by R’ Chaim Kanievsky shlita) that no tefila, empty as you may think it is, is ever wasted, you helped someone, somewhere in the world and I for one, think that thats a wonderful use of time.

    btw, this is possibly the reason that anshei kneses hagedolah wrote tefillos out, anyone know?

    anonymisss your friends, good buddys, on the same side

    #1082261

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    Belev Echad: that was great!!!! well said!!!

    #1082262

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    i feel like it’s the worst thing i’ve done in a while

    Is that true Moish? You can’t think of ONE worse thing than that? If so, you are truly a tzadik!

    #1082263

    Belev Echad
    Participant

    wow, thanks

    #1082264

    anonymisss
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    sjs, I think what moish means is that it made him feel very inconsistent, which is something that doesn’t go well with his honesty. Moish? Is that right?

    ~a~

    #1082265

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    moish- just got to this. Are you satisfied with the answers given?

    I think both of kapusta’s responses were on the mark- just don’t want anything stuffed down your throat. Air your thoughts

    #1082266

    kapusta
    Participant

    areivim? did a compliment from you to me somehow escape your computer into cyberspace and onto this thread where I could see it? something big must be happening today!!! jk

    um both my responses? I only had one in there

    #1082268

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    kapusta- do i really give the impression of hard to impress? I’m usually free with handing out compliments… or so I thought

    #1082269

    moish01
    Member

    hey you’re not bad, areivim.

    and i did answer here but for some reason it wasn’t posted so i’m gonna ignore and move on.

    #1082270

    kapusta
    Participant

    no its not that just that you havent completely re-earned your title after my mussar schmooze last week. see the mazel tov thread for more info

    #1082271

    Joseph
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    So yesterday my hat went missing at the office I was at before Mincha. Unfortunately I had to daven b’yechidus (in accordance with Rav Chaim).

    #1082272

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Why did you take it off to begin with?

    Also, not having a hat isn’t a p’tur from tefillah b’tzibbur – after you get your hat, run and catch a minyan!

    #1082273

    Joseph
    Participant

    Why did you take it off to begin with?

    Excellent question. The only reason was because the doctor didn’t let me lie down wearing it.

    after you get your hat, run and catch a minyan!

    It was the last minyan coming up. By time I got my other hat (it was embarrassing walking in public without a hat) my only choice was to make the zman b’yechidus.

    #1082274

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    the doctor didn’t let me lie down wearing it

    How religiously insensitive. Time for a new doctor.

    #1082275

    147
    Participant

    Joseph & DaasYochid:- Let’s get this straight once & for all:- Nothing ever gets in the way of commencing Tefillo b’Tzibur;

    Certainly, not lack of a hat, and certainly pray Mincho before sunset without a hat, rather than after sundown with a hat; Certainly never ever arrive late to Shacharis, but always come at least 5 minutes early, so that you have Tallis & Tefillin on before Shacharis commences, so can get up to Tefillo b’Tzibur without skipping:- Only thing that can possibly be skipped at Shacharis is a hat by dint of your Tallis on your head.

    If running to catch a Minjan is going to put you out of breath and jeopardize your health or state of mind, forgo the hat to have time to walk biMenuchas Nefesh, but don’t ever risk missing Tefillo b’Tzibur for any lame duck reason such as a hat.

    #1082276

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    lame duck reason

    Interesting phrase.

    Anyhow, it’s a machlokes haposkim.

    #1082277

    Yosi7
    Member

    Joseph- Is rav Chaim your posek anymore than rav Sheinberg or rav Shmuel Aurbach (both of whom say minyan is better)?

    #1082278

    Joseph
    Participant

    My posek follows Rav Chaim on this.

    #1082279

    Nechomah
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    Joseph, did you find the hat at the doctor’s office?

    #1082280

    Joseph
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    Nechomah, it turns out someone moved it to a closet. I retrieved it the next day. (I felt slightly conspicuous wearing one hat on my head and holding another in my hand as I walked the streets.)

    #1082281

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Why? Are you not proud of the uniform of a ben Torah?

    #1082282

    Joseph
    Participant

    Of course. I was proud to wear my hat on the street, especially so on a hot day. It was the second hat in my hand that was conspicuous since if someone saw me holding that before he noticed I was already wearing one, he may have momentarily thought why wasn’t it on the head where it belonged.

    #1082284

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    I’m shocked that you’d be so careless about maris ayin. You should have put it in a bag.

    #1082286

    Joseph
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    Thank you for the mussar. I’m mekabel it.

    #1082287

    takahmamash
    Participant

    Are you not proud of the uniform of a ben Torah?

    Perhaps you meant to say “one possible uniform of a ben Torah.” I know many bnai Torah who do not wear hats.

    #1082288

    Rebbe Yid
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    Joseph: Just out of curiosity, what style of hat do you wear?

    #1082289

    Joseph
    Participant

    Fedora. But I’m thinking of going Homburg.

    #1082290

    Rebbe Yid
    Participant

    Yes, the fedora is quite en vogue among yidden. How did you happen to choose it?

    I like the Homburg, but only if it doesn’t curl up too much on the sides.

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