March 25, 2009 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #874692anon for thisParticipant
exactly, I was just giving examples of some of these scenarios.March 25, 2009 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #874693
am I allowed to break a rule a second time?
deep thought: it takes months to put up a building, G-d did the world in only six days… 🙂March 25, 2009 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #874694
kapusta: Your point is…?March 25, 2009 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm #874695
G-d is unbeleivable… but I get what youre saying here, funny thing to post 🙂March 25, 2009 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm #874696
ames: It is not just the amaing things we forget to do it is the small things that if we do it every day can add up to something very big but because we are inherently lazy we say i will skip it just today and do it tomorrow. (Just think of someone on a diet)March 25, 2009 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm #874697
Small things make big people.
~a~March 26, 2009 2:54 am at 2:54 am #874698
anonymisss youre right. cookies are small 😉March 26, 2009 5:17 am at 5:17 am #874699
squeak,AOB, areivim, ames: the thoughts not about what people would stam say at my levaya-as in me me me i’m not obseesing over what people thing of me as a person!!! it’s deeper, like what have i done in yiddishkeit as a member of klal yisroel!!!March 26, 2009 7:53 am at 7:53 am #874700
G-d is unbeleivable…
poor choice of words 😉
ames: It is not just the amaing things we forget to do it is the small things that if we do it every day can add up to something very big but because we are inherently lazy we say i will skip it just today and do it tomorrow. (Just think of someone on a diet)
what sometimes works is to push yourself today and tell yourslef to take a break tomorrow.
🙂March 26, 2009 8:19 am at 8:19 am #874701
poor choice of words 😉
Reminds me of a dvar torah.
Question is why in the first bracha do we say praises that chazal tell us to say. It makes more sense when giving praise to do it in your own words, it should be what the person himself feels. Right?
The answer is that no matter how much praise you give or what you say it wouldnt even come close to explaining how great god is. In fact it may even be considered an insult. It is like telling someone who has a trillion dollars that they have a lot of money. Not only does it not come close to describing it but it is insulting to rfer to it in such a way.
So basically no matter what words you use it would be a poor choice of words
Now no one can say i never give a dvar torah 😉March 26, 2009 8:28 am at 8:28 am #874702
aussieboy: wow awesome, i like!!! thanx!!!March 26, 2009 8:29 am at 8:29 am #874703moish01Member
cop out. it’s gotta be on the DT thread.March 26, 2009 8:31 am at 8:31 am #874704
moish01: I posted it there too 🙂March 26, 2009 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #874707
nice, aussie, so true!
~a~March 26, 2009 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #874708
jax: i got it, i was just saying cuz it was connected to your deep thought, & also kapusta’s.March 26, 2009 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #874709
ames, looks like you do have some spare time on your hands. Maybe call up a local chessed organization (bikur cholim, chai lifeline, etc.) and volunteer for them.
~a~March 26, 2009 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #874710
I don’t think that a person has to be volunteering or giving his/her time in order to be reaching his/her potential. As we discussed previously, it’s the little things that make big people, the extra smile, bending down to pick up something for someone, holding the door open. Do these things take more than one minute? No. Do those things make a huge difference to you? To the world? Yes! What I meant to say before was that seeing that you do spend time in the CR, you might have some time on your hands that can be used a bit more productively, if that’s what you’re looking for.
Does this make sense to you?
~a~March 26, 2009 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #874711joyousMember
ames- we hear about all the big heroes of the world and specifically Klal Yisrael but the vast majority of us don’t have a role to play in the limelight. An old friend of mine used to say exactly what you’re saying but I disagree. We all have to complete the specific tikkun that our neshama needs and that usually means living your life the way a Jew should. We should think in all our relationships including with Hashem are we acting properly. And am I constantly trying to grow in my commitment to mitzvos? Most of us are not meant to be the Chofetz Chaim or Sara Schenirer who both had a tremendous impact on all religious Jews.March 26, 2009 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm #874712
I guess I don’t know you so I can’t help you with that. I think, though, that I’ve heard such things from other people. People seem to have this misconception that if they’re not the one who’s running the chinese auction for ____________ or fundraising for ___________ or arranging a program for _______________, they’re not doing something important and they feel like it’s not enough. I think I understand what you’re saying. Am I getting you? If yes, what I meant before is that if you’re doing the best you can at this point in your life of taking care of your family and doing YOUR best. People are asked why they were not the best they could’ve been, not why they were not as good as their neighbor.
For the people who do have the time and ability for the “big” things and are not doing them, well, they may not be reaching their potential. Every person has to do the his/her best with the circumstances that God has given to him.
~a~March 26, 2009 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #874713
ames: Famous saying “To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world.” My point is you change the world one small thing at a time which eventually adds up. Not by doing something heroic to save the world from blowing up. That only happens in movies not in real life, but I do know the feeling.March 26, 2009 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #874714areivimzehlazehParticipant
poor choice of words 😉
Reminds me of a dvar torah.
just wanted to clarify for kapusta. When she said poor choice of words, she meant the irony of using “unbelievable” as opposed to using something like “amazing” because if you BELIEVE there is a G-d, then He is quite, well, BELIEVABLE! 😉March 26, 2009 9:44 pm at 9:44 pm #874715
areivim thank you 🙂March 27, 2009 12:36 am at 12:36 am #874716joyousMember
ames- if you see a need for initiative in some specific area then go for it. But if you feel like you’re wasting your talents but don’t know where to invest them, I say wait for the opportunity to present itself. People who do the “big” stuff usually find themselves in a situation where something big needs to be done and they take the opportunity to use the talents they were blessed with. I don’t think there is a way of searching out such things. In the meantime, whatever fills your days now, strive to do in the best way you can.March 27, 2009 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #874717
IF you want to do something then its the yetzer hora if you dont really want to do it then its the yetzer tovMarch 27, 2009 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #874718areivimzehlazehParticipant
ames- unfortunately that’s too true. The yetzer hara has gotten to be such a pro he sounds like the yetzer tov already. I find that thinking about how you will feel/react after you’ve done what the voice says OR what kind of results it will bring- you can differentiate if it’s good or bad. Think aheadMarch 27, 2009 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #874719moish01Member
ames, (i’m gonna sound like the biggest hypocrite now) a guy once told me that when the yetzer hatov talks he says “we” and “i” as opposed to the yetzer hora who uses “you”
so i guess that’s the difference between “i don’t wanna do that” and “you don’t wanna do that.”March 27, 2009 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #874720
moish, that’s good, I like it!
~a~March 27, 2009 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #874721
ames: i also have that sometimes. i’ve even been in situations when the yetzer tov tells me to do something, & then later it’s the yetzer hara tellig me the same thing! sometimes it’s really hard to tell the difference!April 1, 2009 6:31 am at 6:31 am #874724
ames: said the 50 year old!April 1, 2009 6:33 am at 6:33 am #874725
ames: Been thinking about your age lately?April 1, 2009 6:37 am at 6:37 am #874726
Jax: Or the 40 year old trying to feel better.April 2, 2009 12:09 am at 12:09 am #874727
isn’t it a better idea to keep in the back of your mind (not that you should be constantly thinking about this or anything) that whatever age you are, you could possibly die tomorrow? 40 or not, you don’t have all the time in the world.April 2, 2009 2:44 am at 2:44 am #874728
ames: Neither is 30.April 2, 2009 3:01 am at 3:01 am #874729
AOB< could we be a bit more optimistic and say mashiach will come tomorrow?
I’ll try to find an old email relating to this.April 2, 2009 3:04 am at 3:04 am #874730
AOB, HOW old did you say you are? That is not the typical attitude of the young.
~a~April 2, 2009 6:21 am at 6:21 am #874731
AOB: Technically the entire world could be destroyed with in 12 hours (probably less) with the use of nuclear missles, but if you went around thinking about that all day you wouldnt be able to live a normal life.April 2, 2009 6:37 am at 6:37 am #874732
anonymisss: Perhaps it is not the typical attitude of an adult to think someone younger than them can have a mature attitude.April 2, 2009 6:40 am at 6:40 am #874733
anonymisss: an open book is deep thinking! talking about doing everything good in this world………..April 2, 2009 6:47 am at 6:47 am #874734
well the email disappeared, so I’ll shorten it for you. Basically, a person realized he was getting older and he didn’t have too much time left. He sat down one day and figured out how long the average life span is, and how many years he had left. Then he figured out how many sundays he had left to spend with his family and friends and took a jar, and put in a marble for each sunday. As each sunday went by, he took a marble out of the jar and put it in another jar. The jar got emptier and emptier… Our time is limited, accomplish something!
the email actually sounded good…
random deep thought/question? What would you do if the cr didn’t have a backspace button? or better yet, imagine being able to backspace comments in real life.April 2, 2009 9:10 am at 9:10 am #874735
kapusta: The cr has a backspace button? As for in real life I would love to be able to take back some of the things i say (okay most of the things i say).April 2, 2009 9:15 am at 9:15 am #874736April 2, 2009 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #874737
kapusta: oh yeah that would be so great! 🙂 (referring to your post bout mashiach)
anonymisss: aussie put it PERFECTLY 🙂
aussie: thanks!April 2, 2009 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm #874738
WOW! I didn’t mean it that way at all. I’m sorry whoever took offense at that.
aussie, I am no adult, I’m hardly older than you and although what AOB said is true, no, I do NOT live my life thinking that way at all. All I meant was this:
AOB: Technically the entire world could be destroyed with in 12 hours (probably less) with the use of nuclear missles, but if you went around thinking about that all day you wouldnt be able to live a normal life.
-aussie, thank you for the clarification.
~a~April 2, 2009 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #874739
anonymisss & aussie: notice i said
isn’t it a better idea to keep in the back of your mind (not that you should be constantly thinking about this or anything) that whatever age you are, you could possibly die tomorrow? 40 or not, you don’t have all the time in the world.
& don’t worry, anonymisss. none taken 😉April 2, 2009 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #874740
Why do you have to feel young? I don’t feel like I’m 17. So what?April 2, 2009 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #874741
To quote Robert Browning:
“Grow old along with me!
The best is yet to be,
the last of life, for which the first was made.
Our times are in his hand who saith,
‘A whole I planned, youth shows but half;
Trust God: See all, nor be afraid”April 3, 2009 3:34 am at 3:34 am #874742
wasn’t sure where to put this, but i like this thread…
why is the #1 moshol/analogy for girls always “you’re a princess, daughter of the king, etc”? i never especially liked princessess. either they’re all weak & wimpy & need to be protected from everything, or they’re mean to everyone & get their heads chopped off (ok that’s more like queens but whatever). they aren’t known to have good middos or anything (like strong as a leopard or swift as a deer) or anything. so what’s so good about them that we’re supposed to always remember??April 3, 2009 6:12 am at 6:12 am #874744
(ok that’s more like queens but whatever)
AOB, you’re getting yourself into big trouble here 😉
As for your question, it’s a good one. I don’t think it’s for the midos/bain adam l’chaveiro aspect but more like my father is the most powerful in all the land, he can do what he wants just for me. One more thing, did you ever see someone of royalty dressed improperly? It’s always in something well tailored (doesn’t look cheap) and with good taste.
also relating to tznius a little bit (I’m not trying to change the topic of this thread, but it fits here) If you would ever look at the arab women (the religious ones, not the ones who are “off”) they are not willing to dress in anything but their shmatas, we have real clothing which is made in very good taste, clothing of our own, why are we constantly looking for the bigger and better of the goyish world? the arab women wouldn’t give it up, so why are we so willing to?April 3, 2009 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #874745
princess123: sorry, i hope you’re not offended, this really isn’t against you. i just wanted to know.
kapusta: ok i get the king thing, thanks.
but it’s not as if they dressed for tsnius, they dressed to impress people. not something i want to emulate.
& what were you trying to say about the arabs? you kinda lost me with all the commasApril 3, 2009 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #874746
AOB: It helps women feel important 😉
What takes a person further in life, beauty or an amazing personality?
Sadly beauty will get you more out of life, but in the end it wont get you anywhere. (Especially if you lose that beauty, which is a lot easier to lose than a good personality.)
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