October 15, 2009 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #590588
Should we be wearing designer clothes, shoes, bags, etc?October 16, 2009 12:57 am at 12:57 am #662770
No.October 16, 2009 1:05 am at 1:05 am #662771
are they reasonably priced?October 16, 2009 1:06 am at 1:06 am #662772
every article is designed by someone.October 16, 2009 1:19 am at 1:19 am #662773
seriously though, a designer label is just a marketing gimmick meant to get you to pay more for the item. There’s nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand it. The seller would like to get as much money for the item as possible, in order to better support his greater family.
You, usually, would like to pay as little as possible to get a good-quality, comfortable and complimentary garment.
There are appropriate clothes with or without designer labels – that is only a marketing distinction.October 16, 2009 1:20 am at 1:20 am #662774
Joseph is free to wear what he wishes.October 16, 2009 1:22 am at 1:22 am #662775SJSinNYCMember
Depends. First, what is the intent of wearing the designer label? Is it because its made better or because its “cooler”? Is it better quality/materials? Second, is it tzanua? Third, can you afford it?October 16, 2009 1:44 am at 1:44 am #662776
“Joseph is free to wear what he wishes.”
No I’m not. I have guidelines that prevent from wearing items I may otherwise wish. In any event, the OP asked for an opinion, and I provided it.October 16, 2009 1:48 am at 1:48 am #662777
We are all affected by the marketing of expensive, luxurious items, it could be cars, clothes, etc.
Many times we “have to” have a certain item because its the norm in the society that were living in.
My opinion is that if a person can afford expensive items they should buy it- however they should be very careful not to show the brand name(even if its very expensive) nobody has to know what brand your purse is and how much you spent on it.
For example, I see people wearing certain shoes and purses that have certain little CC’s on them, its not like they are the cutest shoes they just wear them for the brand, then I know other people who wear probably more expensive shoes and you’d never know.October 16, 2009 2:07 am at 2:07 am #662778yoshiMember
Look for “Sales, Sales, Sales!”October 16, 2009 2:08 am at 2:08 am #662779mazcaMember
Well I think I am very wrong but it feels good to wear something nice and coolOctober 16, 2009 2:26 am at 2:26 am #662780mchemtobMember
i’m all for wearing whatever designer you want as long as the name is on the tag inside the garment and not in sight. on another note i find it disturbing that parents are letting thier girls walk around in sweatshirts that say juicy on it, it is wrong on so many levels, if you like the sweatshirt get the dsame one without the name on it…it’s not like it doesnt exist, and they have no choices.October 16, 2009 2:38 am at 2:38 am #662781
All name brands are made for marketing and making money.. If people are so gullible and fickle to spend thousands on a pocket book just to show off a name brand or designer, when there are pocket books that, quality wise are just as good, and thousands less, then something is very wrong with society.October 16, 2009 3:00 am at 3:00 am #662782anon for thisParticipant
Sometimes I choose a label as a sign/ proof of quality. One catalog house I patronize guarantees that any item that wears out/ fails will be replaced for free; they even cover shipping. As a result I’m willing to pay more for items from this manufacturer.October 16, 2009 3:43 am at 3:43 am #662783
>>>arents are letting thier girls walk around in sweatshirts that say juicy on it, it is wrong on so many le<<<<
should they say Jewcy, instead.October 16, 2009 4:00 am at 4:00 am #662784shaatraMember
Just do what u want. U want designer labels, go ahead (if u can afford it) if u think its wrong, don’t wear it. Its as simple as thatOctober 16, 2009 4:05 am at 4:05 am #662785jphoneMember
Walmarts own private label is a label nonetheless. Where do we draw the line? Tommy Hilfiger good, Ralph Lauren no good? The $125 Jos. A Banks tie no good, the $24 JosephLea tie is good? Why is Mr. Banks’ label any worse than JosephLea, or Walmart?October 16, 2009 4:08 am at 4:08 am #662786PhyllisMember
A friend was saying that her son really wanted a Kipling briefcase, but of course she felt it was too expensive so she bought him the copy for about 10 dollars. When she brought it home, he said, but where’s the kipling bear? so she went to a store that sells Kipling and bought a real kipling keychain for $18 and attached it to the briefcase. Now for $28 he has a “kipling” briefcase!!!!
In my days it was Lisa Frank, a/o remember that?October 16, 2009 4:08 am at 4:08 am #662787shaatraMember
I personaly like the designer labels because its better quality but ill also buy from old navy or target if I think the item looks nice. U have to know where to compromise and not spend more than you haveOctober 16, 2009 4:08 am at 4:08 am #662788
every garment was designed by someone. Whether they have their name on the label is another story.October 16, 2009 4:19 am at 4:19 am #662789
do tallit made by Emanueli or Gabrieli or any of the “name brands” count as designer labels?October 16, 2009 4:19 am at 4:19 am #662790
Jphone, the difference is when you buy a brand just to show everyone the tag that says Hugo boss or you buy it and don’t feel the need for anyone to see it and you don’t look down on people who can’t afford it. Because I know plenty of people that only buy certain labels so people should see them.October 16, 2009 4:32 am at 4:32 am #662791starwolfMember
I have a Designer tefillin, and parts of my tallitot (katan & gadol) should count as Designer.
Does that count?
oops–just saw–ronrsr beat me too it. I guess I’ll have to get up earlier in the morning.October 16, 2009 4:36 am at 4:36 am #662792anon for thisParticipant
ronrsr, exactly. My kids’ LL Bean backpacks cost more than no-name backpacks, but I know that if they fall apart I can call for a shipping label & get a new one free of charge. Plus they can be personalized for no extra charge.
How much are Kipling briefcases anyways? I’ve heard of them but they aren’t very popular here.October 16, 2009 7:08 am at 7:08 am #662793h2Member
Oh! I love this topic! Designer clothes is the biggest joke! Did you know that access (one of Kohl’s junk companies) and juicy are both made by liz claiborne!
banana republic and old navy are the same, chaps is a division of ralph lauren…!!!!! the more you know, the more you laugh!October 16, 2009 10:35 am at 10:35 am #662794smartcookieMember
PHYLLIS: u gave me a good laugh reminding me about lisa frank. Brings back some childhood memories.October 16, 2009 2:22 pm at 2:22 pm #662795
h2 you are so right. Most of these designers make their clothing in the same factories and many have cheaper lines available. People who buy clothing just for the logo, are being ripped off. But LLBean and Landsend do make good quality items that are guaranteed by them. I wouldn’t really classify them as a designer label. Their products, are reasonably priced as well. In that case, buying from the above listed companies is worth spending the few extra dollars in the long run.October 16, 2009 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #662796
I was taking about people who purchase “Designer” pocketbooks, also known as “statement” bags. Exactly what are they trying to state by having them? This topic also has alot to do with the issue of Tsinut and not drawing attention to yourself.October 16, 2009 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #662797
The wealthiest person in the world is a man named Carlos Slim. He lives very near by, and his house is one of the simplest houses in his neighborhood (its big but its not ostentatious) he doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone.October 16, 2009 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #662798
If that was the case, then why do famous design houses have to davka stick their name promently in front of a product and dare to charged $1,000.00. If you want to feel good and boost your ego by sporting a thousand dollar pocketbook, kol hakavod.
I for one, don’t need a sharp bag to make me look stylish. I am happy running around in my $20.00 bag from Avon. It has nothing to do about being jealous about what others have. I don’t go around thinking, “oh, I wish I could have that pocketbook or shoes”
About Jewelry, that needs to paled down as well. We are so use to living in the States, where we don’t have to worry about necklaces being ripped off ones neck. In Latin America, even if you were costume jewelry, you are asking for trouble.October 16, 2009 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #662799mchemtobMember
ames: pple can buy whichever name they please but why do we feel the need the buy designer bags w/ the name on the outside not all designer bags have huge flashy logos so basically what i am saying and i am including myself as well is that women feel good to have nice things but why do we need to flash the name? does it make us feel any better? am i sharper if i buy the chanel bag with the huge emblem or a ferragamo bag with a tiny one? and in terms or jewelry it’s a better buy than designer clothing/bags b/c theres no wear and tear. more for your dollarOctober 16, 2009 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #662800
I had a friend who lives in Europe, who went to Brazil for a Bar Mitzvah. Her host asked her if she was planning on wearing her necklace out. My friend was like why? Because she was told that they would mug her. My friend is like but it is fake. The host was like, in Brazil it doesn’t matter. They steal anything here. Her host went to her and yanked on her necklace and asked her if it hurt, which of course it did. The fake necklace was promptly taken off and left at home. She had to purchase a little cheap watch ring, just to have the time. People who live in America don’t realize how lucky they are they can walk the streets, (most of the time) and not get mugged. My point, in those countries, the only place you can wear your jewelry is at home, never on the streets.October 16, 2009 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #662801tzippiMember
Ames, gotta tell you, I’ve never spent a hundred on a pair of shoes either.October 16, 2009 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #662802
Whats interesting is the “status” people give to others wearing designer labels. It should not be a defining factor. If you can afford it, by all means, buy them. For those that cant and dont, there’s nothing wrong. You’re just as good as the next person. Buying it as a status symbol when you cant afford it, is wrong IMO.October 16, 2009 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #662803yoshiMember
mazal77, About the “designer” hand bags, have you noticed how big they are getting? Before you know it, the bags will be able to hold another person!October 16, 2009 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #662804
“Buying it as a status symble when you cant afford it, is wrong IMO.”
Buying it as a status symbol when you CAN afford it, is also wrong.October 16, 2009 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #662805
Ames, I try to look at people for whats on the inside, not by what they wear or have. I could care less about the outside, it their neshoma that is special. I don’t think sporting designer labels, makes one above others. I am just trying to understand for example, Landsend makes good quality clothing, right, they have a stylish leather boot, selling for under $200.00?? Meanwhile Designer X, has a similar style selling for $800.00. Please justify to me the need to spend $600.00 for the same boot just because it has Designer X’s logo splashed on the side??October 16, 2009 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #662806mazcaMember
I know a lot of people that were mugged and robbed in Brooklyn at gun point for their rings just outside their homes, who are you kidding me. It is dangerous to be austentatious all over the world. I used to work in a jewelery store in Manhattan and we had a robbery there, and plenty of people came trying to sell stolen items, and my neighbors houses in brooklyn were ramsacked. Don’t fool yourself. There is danger all over the world not only latin america.October 16, 2009 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #662807
yoshi: Try a messenger bag. Though it is quite difficult adjusting to the size coming from one of those big mama bags…
Joseph: True, but at least you’re not putting yourself (hopefully) into debt just for peer approval.October 16, 2009 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #662808
$200 for boots??October 16, 2009 4:01 pm at 4:01 pm #662809
Yoshi, I was reading somewhere of women getting back problems from carrying such huge handbags.
I am a nervous person by nature. I try to carry as little as possible. If I have CC’s or cash, I wear something with pockets rather then keep it in my pocketbook. I really try to be inconspicuous. Now that winter is coming, my Landsend parka with the gazillion pockets, will be handy. I am all about comfort. It could be the ugliest coat in the world, but if it will keep me warm, Stylish, Smylish.. I could care less what anyone thinks.October 16, 2009 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #662810squeakParticipant
Joseph – that’s $100 per boot.October 16, 2009 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #662811
Is that too little? That’s actually a pretty decent price.October 16, 2009 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #662812
Whoops, sorry Joseph, actually, there is a pair of boots on Landsend selling for $350.00!! finest quality italian leather riding boot, but Designer “P” is selling something similar for $1,2500.00, course, you get the “P” on his boots and not with the Landsend model.October 16, 2009 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #662813
How about going into debt leasing cars you can’t afford to buy?October 16, 2009 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #662814cantoresqMember
As it happens I tend to one label for almost all my clothing. I like the look at suits with vests and very few companies make them. I’ve found one, on-line, and their suits actually fit me quite well and need very little alteration. That company also sells shirts and ties to my taste (which tends to the formal side of things).So yes while I wear a brand name label, there is a reason. Fortunately, they have good sales and I never spend more than $350.00 for a suit.October 16, 2009 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #662815
Ames, looks like you beat me to the landsend website. I am big Landsend shopper. They have quality clothing with a money back at any time quarantee, no questions asked. They have evolved over the years, becoming a little bit more stylish.October 16, 2009 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #662816Just-a-guyMember
Cantoresq- would you mind posting the name of this label?October 16, 2009 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #662817
Mybat, start another thread for the car leasing issues.October 16, 2009 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #662818
Mazca, you are right, dangerous everywhere, that’s why they more one has, the more they have to worry about.
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