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  • #590588
    mybat
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    Should we be wearing designer clothes, shoes, bags, etc?

    #662770
    Joseph
    Participant

    No.

    #662771
    ronrsr
    Member

    are they reasonably priced?

    #662772
    ronrsr
    Member

    every article is designed by someone.

    #662773
    ronrsr
    Member

    seriously though, a designer label is just a marketing gimmick meant to get you to pay more for the item. There’s nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand it. The seller would like to get as much money for the item as possible, in order to better support his greater family.

    You, usually, would like to pay as little as possible to get a good-quality, comfortable and complimentary garment.

    There are appropriate clothes with or without designer labels – that is only a marketing distinction.

    #662774
    ronrsr
    Member

    Joseph is free to wear what he wishes.

    #662775
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Depends. First, what is the intent of wearing the designer label? Is it because its made better or because its “cooler”? Is it better quality/materials? Second, is it tzanua? Third, can you afford it?

    #662776
    Joseph
    Participant

    “Joseph is free to wear what he wishes.”

    No I’m not. I have guidelines that prevent from wearing items I may otherwise wish. In any event, the OP asked for an opinion, and I provided it.

    #662777
    mybat
    Member

    We are all affected by the marketing of expensive, luxurious items, it could be cars, clothes, etc.

    Many times we “have to” have a certain item because its the norm in the society that were living in.

    My opinion is that if a person can afford expensive items they should buy it- however they should be very careful not to show the brand name(even if its very expensive) nobody has to know what brand your purse is and how much you spent on it.

    For example, I see people wearing certain shoes and purses that have certain little CC’s on them, its not like they are the cutest shoes they just wear them for the brand, then I know other people who wear probably more expensive shoes and you’d never know.

    #662778
    yoshi
    Member

    Look for “Sales, Sales, Sales!”

    #662779
    mazca
    Member

    Well I think I am very wrong but it feels good to wear something nice and cool

    #662780
    mchemtob
    Member

    i’m all for wearing whatever designer you want as long as the name is on the tag inside the garment and not in sight. on another note i find it disturbing that parents are letting thier girls walk around in sweatshirts that say juicy on it, it is wrong on so many levels, if you like the sweatshirt get the dsame one without the name on it…it’s not like it doesnt exist, and they have no choices.

    #662781
    mazal77
    Participant

    All name brands are made for marketing and making money.. If people are so gullible and fickle to spend thousands on a pocket book just to show off a name brand or designer, when there are pocket books that, quality wise are just as good, and thousands less, then something is very wrong with society.

    #662782
    anon for this
    Participant

    Sometimes I choose a label as a sign/ proof of quality. One catalog house I patronize guarantees that any item that wears out/ fails will be replaced for free; they even cover shipping. As a result I’m willing to pay more for items from this manufacturer.

    #662783
    ronrsr
    Member

    >>>arents are letting thier girls walk around in sweatshirts that say juicy on it, it is wrong on so many le<<<<

    should they say Jewcy, instead.

    #662784
    shaatra
    Member

    Just do what u want. U want designer labels, go ahead (if u can afford it) if u think its wrong, don’t wear it. Its as simple as that

    #662785
    jphone
    Member

    Walmarts own private label is a label nonetheless. Where do we draw the line? Tommy Hilfiger good, Ralph Lauren no good? The $125 Jos. A Banks tie no good, the $24 JosephLea tie is good? Why is Mr. Banks’ label any worse than JosephLea, or Walmart?

    #662786
    Phyllis
    Member

    A friend was saying that her son really wanted a Kipling briefcase, but of course she felt it was too expensive so she bought him the copy for about 10 dollars. When she brought it home, he said, but where’s the kipling bear? so she went to a store that sells Kipling and bought a real kipling keychain for $18 and attached it to the briefcase. Now for $28 he has a “kipling” briefcase!!!!

    In my days it was Lisa Frank, a/o remember that?

    #662787
    shaatra
    Member

    I personaly like the designer labels because its better quality but ill also buy from old navy or target if I think the item looks nice. U have to know where to compromise and not spend more than you have

    #662788
    ronrsr
    Member

    every garment was designed by someone. Whether they have their name on the label is another story.

    #662789
    ronrsr
    Member

    do tallit made by Emanueli or Gabrieli or any of the “name brands” count as designer labels?

    #662790
    mybat
    Member

    Jphone, the difference is when you buy a brand just to show everyone the tag that says Hugo boss or you buy it and don’t feel the need for anyone to see it and you don’t look down on people who can’t afford it. Because I know plenty of people that only buy certain labels so people should see them.

    #662791
    starwolf
    Member

    I have a Designer tefillin, and parts of my tallitot (katan & gadol) should count as Designer.

    Does that count?

    oops–just saw–ronrsr beat me too it. I guess I’ll have to get up earlier in the morning.

    #662792
    anon for this
    Participant

    ronrsr, exactly. My kids’ LL Bean backpacks cost more than no-name backpacks, but I know that if they fall apart I can call for a shipping label & get a new one free of charge. Plus they can be personalized for no extra charge.

    How much are Kipling briefcases anyways? I’ve heard of them but they aren’t very popular here.

    #662793
    h2
    Member

    Oh! I love this topic! Designer clothes is the biggest joke! Did you know that access (one of Kohl’s junk companies) and juicy are both made by liz claiborne!

    banana republic and old navy are the same, chaps is a division of ralph lauren…!!!!! the more you know, the more you laugh!

    #662794
    smartcookie
    Member

    PHYLLIS: u gave me a good laugh reminding me about lisa frank. Brings back some childhood memories.

    #662795
    mazal77
    Participant

    h2 you are so right. Most of these designers make their clothing in the same factories and many have cheaper lines available. People who buy clothing just for the logo, are being ripped off. But LLBean and Landsend do make good quality items that are guaranteed by them. I wouldn’t really classify them as a designer label. Their products, are reasonably priced as well. In that case, buying from the above listed companies is worth spending the few extra dollars in the long run.

    #662796
    mazal77
    Participant

    I was taking about people who purchase “Designer” pocketbooks, also known as “statement” bags. Exactly what are they trying to state by having them? This topic also has alot to do with the issue of Tsinut and not drawing attention to yourself.

    #662797
    mybat
    Member

    The wealthiest person in the world is a man named Carlos Slim. He lives very near by, and his house is one of the simplest houses in his neighborhood (its big but its not ostentatious) he doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone.

    #662798
    mazal77
    Participant

    If that was the case, then why do famous design houses have to davka stick their name promently in front of a product and dare to charged $1,000.00. If you want to feel good and boost your ego by sporting a thousand dollar pocketbook, kol hakavod.

    I for one, don’t need a sharp bag to make me look stylish. I am happy running around in my $20.00 bag from Avon. It has nothing to do about being jealous about what others have. I don’t go around thinking, “oh, I wish I could have that pocketbook or shoes”

    About Jewelry, that needs to paled down as well. We are so use to living in the States, where we don’t have to worry about necklaces being ripped off ones neck. In Latin America, even if you were costume jewelry, you are asking for trouble.

    #662799
    mchemtob
    Member

    ames: pple can buy whichever name they please but why do we feel the need the buy designer bags w/ the name on the outside not all designer bags have huge flashy logos so basically what i am saying and i am including myself as well is that women feel good to have nice things but why do we need to flash the name? does it make us feel any better? am i sharper if i buy the chanel bag with the huge emblem or a ferragamo bag with a tiny one? and in terms or jewelry it’s a better buy than designer clothing/bags b/c theres no wear and tear. more for your dollar

    #662800
    mazal77
    Participant

    I had a friend who lives in Europe, who went to Brazil for a Bar Mitzvah. Her host asked her if she was planning on wearing her necklace out. My friend was like why? Because she was told that they would mug her. My friend is like but it is fake. The host was like, in Brazil it doesn’t matter. They steal anything here. Her host went to her and yanked on her necklace and asked her if it hurt, which of course it did. The fake necklace was promptly taken off and left at home. She had to purchase a little cheap watch ring, just to have the time. People who live in America don’t realize how lucky they are they can walk the streets, (most of the time) and not get mugged. My point, in those countries, the only place you can wear your jewelry is at home, never on the streets.

    #662801
    tzippi
    Member

    Ames, gotta tell you, I’ve never spent a hundred on a pair of shoes either.

    #662802
    mepal
    Member

    Whats interesting is the “status” people give to others wearing designer labels. It should not be a defining factor. If you can afford it, by all means, buy them. For those that cant and dont, there’s nothing wrong. You’re just as good as the next person. Buying it as a status symbol when you cant afford it, is wrong IMO.

    #662803
    yoshi
    Member

    mazal77, About the “designer” hand bags, have you noticed how big they are getting? Before you know it, the bags will be able to hold another person!

    #662804
    Joseph
    Participant

    “Buying it as a status symble when you cant afford it, is wrong IMO.”

    Buying it as a status symbol when you CAN afford it, is also wrong.

    #662805
    mazal77
    Participant

    Ames, I try to look at people for whats on the inside, not by what they wear or have. I could care less about the outside, it their neshoma that is special. I don’t think sporting designer labels, makes one above others. I am just trying to understand for example, Landsend makes good quality clothing, right, they have a stylish leather boot, selling for under $200.00?? Meanwhile Designer X, has a similar style selling for $800.00. Please justify to me the need to spend $600.00 for the same boot just because it has Designer X’s logo splashed on the side??

    #662806
    mazca
    Member

    I know a lot of people that were mugged and robbed in Brooklyn at gun point for their rings just outside their homes, who are you kidding me. It is dangerous to be austentatious all over the world. I used to work in a jewelery store in Manhattan and we had a robbery there, and plenty of people came trying to sell stolen items, and my neighbors houses in brooklyn were ramsacked. Don’t fool yourself. There is danger all over the world not only latin america.

    #662807
    mepal
    Member

    yoshi: Try a messenger bag. Though it is quite difficult adjusting to the size coming from one of those big mama bags…

    Joseph: True, but at least you’re not putting yourself (hopefully) into debt just for peer approval.

    #662808
    Joseph
    Participant

    $200 for boots??

    #662809
    mazal77
    Participant

    Yoshi, I was reading somewhere of women getting back problems from carrying such huge handbags.

    I am a nervous person by nature. I try to carry as little as possible. If I have CC’s or cash, I wear something with pockets rather then keep it in my pocketbook. I really try to be inconspicuous. Now that winter is coming, my Landsend parka with the gazillion pockets, will be handy. I am all about comfort. It could be the ugliest coat in the world, but if it will keep me warm, Stylish, Smylish.. I could care less what anyone thinks.

    #662810
    squeak
    Participant

    Joseph – that’s $100 per boot.

    #662811
    mepal
    Member

    Is that too little? That’s actually a pretty decent price.

    #662812
    mazal77
    Participant

    Whoops, sorry Joseph, actually, there is a pair of boots on Landsend selling for $350.00!! finest quality italian leather riding boot, but Designer “P” is selling something similar for $1,2500.00, course, you get the “P” on his boots and not with the Landsend model.

    #662813
    mybat
    Member

    How about going into debt leasing cars you can’t afford to buy?

    #662814
    cantoresq
    Member

    As it happens I tend to one label for almost all my clothing. I like the look at suits with vests and very few companies make them. I’ve found one, on-line, and their suits actually fit me quite well and need very little alteration. That company also sells shirts and ties to my taste (which tends to the formal side of things).So yes while I wear a brand name label, there is a reason. Fortunately, they have good sales and I never spend more than $350.00 for a suit.

    #662815
    mazal77
    Participant

    Ames, looks like you beat me to the landsend website. I am big Landsend shopper. They have quality clothing with a money back at any time quarantee, no questions asked. They have evolved over the years, becoming a little bit more stylish.

    #662816
    Just-a-guy
    Member

    Cantoresq- would you mind posting the name of this label?

    #662817
    mazal77
    Participant

    Mybat, start another thread for the car leasing issues.

    #662818
    mazal77
    Participant

    Mazca, you are right, dangerous everywhere, that’s why they more one has, the more they have to worry about.

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