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can i call you when he”s ready to date? there is so much misinformation out there and it is very scary because i have a few friends whose sons were also diagnosed at 19 and they are having a very hard time. rabbi meisels is wonderful, it is true but i’m not sure he really understands whats happening in lakewood these days.
first of all to health you are right but maybe , i’m not saying only for your shul but to everyone who reads this blog you can ask someone well knowledgable in this area to get up before mincha and speak about it.
no personal information please
Diabetes is not hereditary. It is actually caused by us. The websites that people mentioned like webmd.com are really pharmaceutical websites and they want you to medicate to treat your diabetes. These are medication you will never get off of, and will cause other side effects that you take another medication for, and the chain will continue as long as you live. Ask your grandparents if they ever heard of diabetes, ADD, autism, etc. they did not because these are man made diseases.
To mosh3 : you mentioned that you have 1 child with diabetes and 2 with autism. I bet you that your Dr said these are not vaccine related ,this is absolutely not true.
Your children can be helped from their autism. Your children can use .There is a court case right now that they actually said that yes it is related, but will keep this very quiet since they dont want people to know about this. Everyone do yourself a favor and read the vaccine insert before you vaccinate your child. It says the side effects right there. If the H1N1 vaccine says it causes asthma, dont wonder why your child got asthma. Interestingly enough ,the company that makes the medication for the diabetes is the same company that makes the vaccine that causes diabetes.
If you want normal healthy children sstop vaccinating and filling your child up with chemical foods. Look around and you will see more kids than ever are sick. Kids on medication is NOT normal. go to dr tenpennys website, and start your research there. Great info about the misinformation you are told.
sorry but the moderator said i cant put personal info so to yehudaw good luck with the shidduchim.
chance: Which vaccine du claim causes diabetes? where is all this nonsense coming from? Is it better for our children to die bec. they’re not being vaccinated whether from the mumps, flu or what next?
What type of hashkafos are you promoting by saying these diseases are man made!?!?!?!? Your basically saying that we’re in control of what happens to us.with your theory how can u explain the nisyonos hashem gives us are you promoting that we create the nisyonos we’re having by ourself??????????????????
I am utterly shocked at what you’re saying, chance! How dare you?! What kind of stupidity is this…So do you believe diabetes is a new thing, meaning it only came out once vaccines were available?! c’mon! get real!
wow to chance: i really think you should be careful with what you say because you have made alot of people upset.first of all if you think i have not done research and spoken to big doctors who know more than just websites well sorry to dissapoint you i have gone and taken my children all three of them to the top, i’m talking about to california, florida nad even john hopkins. please let me tell you it is proven through science and empirically that autism and diabetes is not gotten through vaccines and that court case which you mentioned i am in the court room when it is being presented and the people that did the research lied to get results they wanted. have of the info is not true and the experiments are faulty. second of all i would have to agree with the rebbitzen and simchaallthetime, what happened to hashem? do you mean to tell me that HE is not included or even better the one that gave it to us? and to deny our children the vaccines because some meshugana decided that its because of them we got these diseases. sorry but thse type of words are trully harmful and i really hope no teenager reads this blog for fear that they will harbor bad thoughts against hashem. please i beg you be careful of what you say, you sound like an intelligent person and i wouldn’t want you to get into trouble.
kudos to mosh3!!! i’d really like to hear what chance has to say to this?! i’m very bothered…
I have an English nephew who got polio from the polio vaccine. VERY important: The English give a live vaccine and most other countries give dead vaccine which is a lot safer. The only thing I would advise is to check the date of the vaccine before giving. It has happened (on 2 occassions that I know)that doctors have had out of date vaccines!!
Can anyone help me please: My grand – daughter aged 7 is coming to me for Pesach. She is not diabetic but has a glandular disease and may not have any sugar. Because of her age she cannot have any sugar substitutes. I would appreciate any cooking ideas, and recipes please.
this is for estherh: is she allowed to have splenda or there is a new thing on the market called agave ,you can get it in zahlers or the health food store on 13th ave and 52 i believe. the truth is rabbi meisels is the best that can help you with this problem and his number is 845-406-1062. he is a mumcha is all areas regarding diabetes and its neighboring issues.but anyway everyone should have a good yom tov and an enjoyable pesach.
Diabetes has been around a long time. Alternative medicine has been around a long time. Antibiotics has been around a short time, but because we have them our life span has increased dramatically since the turn of the 20th century. The leading cause of death during the turn of the last century was consumption (infectious disease), now it’s cardiovascular disease. Some people like to argue with facts just to get attention -don’t give them what they want and they will go away.
Well I would love to know what you will say when in 10 years from now our children are given 50 vaccines. Dont you all see the rate that these childr en are getting destroyed? Anyone is scared to get the mumps? They scare you that you should take the vaccine. I got the mumps and guess what, I was fully vaccinated. Didnt we all get the chicken pox? so whats wrong if our kids get these childhood diseases that Hashem created to strenghten our immune system. By the way ,my friend went to R’ Chaim Kanievsky in E”Y, to find out if she should take the H1N1 vaccine since she is expecting. He said “it is more dangerous to get the shot than not to get it” and that R’ Steinman has the same views as him.
Well many women have miscarried in the 5 or 6 month because of this vaccine.
To Mosh3 , take your children to Dr Palevsky in Manhattan who is an excellent pediatrician and ask him how your kids were affected be the vaccine. I guess none of you went to his speech in Manhattan a few weeks ago about how vaccines work and how the affect the brain.
To Rebitzen,
If you will do some research and even read the insert of the vaccines you will see that 1. they are not safe
2. The side effects are written on the insert, like the side effect ofthe H1N1 vaccine is asthma.
I guss most of you are shocked, I guess we are so sheltered and so obidient to do what
our Dr tells us that we neverdo our own research.
Which Vaccine causes the pancreas to shut down and stop producing the enzyme insulin?
Chance: what do you say to the many who didn’t get the H1N1 vacc. and are no longer with us?
Where did you do all your ‘fantastic’ research on the topic?
And which vaccine du claim causes diabetes?
How many people died from H1N1? Compare this to the hundred of children that were killed before they were born because the mother did take the vaccine without even taking a look at the insert which says it should NOT be given to pregnant women. And the long term results will be unknown until the people who did take it will start having symptoms. The benefit does not outweigh the risk. If people would take care of their health they would be able to fight off these viruses, but because our immune system is so weak we cant fight it. It was proven in a study that vitimin D3 is much better at fighting the flu than a vaccine.
An interesting book to read would be 1. overdose america:the broken promise of american medicine ,by john Abramson and 2. Selling sickness by ray Moynihan. These books may open your eyes.
chance, what do you have to say about people having diabetes before there were vaccines? what other diseases do you believe to be a result of vaccines? i’m still in shock that you can still think this…but let’s hear what you have to say!
I was talking about juvenile diabetes, but okay you want to know what other diseases are caused by vaccines, here they are:
The most frequently reported autoimmune disorder from various vaccines were:
Hepetitus B: arthritis, vasculitis, encephalitis, neuropathy, thrombocytopenia
MMR: acute and chroic arthritis, thrombocytopenia, hearing loss
Influenza: Gullian-Barre syndrome, vasculitis,
Polio: Gullian-Barre syndrome
Varicella: mostly neurological syndromes
The H1N1 vaccine: misscariages, and in the insert it also says it may cause infertility
DPT & Hep B- I know people whose babies died within 2 days of recieving these vaccines, of course its called SIDS and they dont know why children are dying of SIDS. When they took an autopsy of children who died of SIDS their brain was inflammed and full of mercury. Hmm. But of course there is no connection.
These vaccines contain MSG,aluminum,formoldehyde,mercury, antifreeze, cells from animals. Dont tell me that it would be safe to have any of these inserted into your bloodstream.
Ask anyone if they would take a sip from a broken thermometer that contains mercury ,of course not, but its put into our childrens bloodstream eventhough the amount a baby gets by the time they turn 2 is the amount that a 250 LB person can withstand. THe aluminum makes the mixture even more toxic. Children who are Autistic cannot get rid of the heavy metals and therefore become autistic. By removing the heavy metals from their system and putting them on a gluten free and casein free diet they can recover. I think you should take a look at the documentary called Autism:made in the USA by Gary Null.
You will see whatelse vaccines can cause.
When they took an autopsy of children who died of SIDS their brain was inflammed and full of mercury. Hmm. But of course there is no connection.
I don’t claim to know anything about this issue, but I know a little about thimerosal. It is a molecule which contains the element mercury as one component of the molecule. It is not FREE as an element. Just as in a cup of water there is hydrogen, but it is a component of the molecule, not a FREE element. There is no other mercury in vaccines other than that which is a component of the thimerosal molecule
Now, even if the mercury were to somehow be extracted in the body from the thimerosal molecule, thimerosal as a preservative is used in concentrations of one one-hundreth of a percent by volume, of the 1/2 cc or less of the vaccine administered.
If you want to tell me that this extremely small amount of mercury (one ten-thousandth of a few drops) can have toxic effects on the brain, I can’t argue with you. But to say the brains were “full of mercury” is simply an inflammatory lie said by someone who desperately wants to make a point at the expense of any truth. I assume you were quoting someone else, I don’t mean to characterize you.
Chance, Again! What vaccine du claim causes diabetes?????
By my estimation IF the body could extract the element mercury from the thimerosal molecule completely, and IF it would all somehow be localized to the brain, and IF it could pass through the blood-brain barrier, then it would take hundreds of thousands of vaccines in one person to cause the amount of mercury in a thermometer to be concentrated in the brain.
Of course not all vaccines contain thimerosal, so maybe we should up that to the millions.
Actually according to the FDA component lists I just looked up, out of 19 vaccines only 4 contain thimerosal. Two of them in the amount I mentioned above, two of them considerably less.
That is currently.
Eleven of the 19 NEVER contained thimerosal.
To Mod 80,
You don’t have to go into such detail to disprove the so-called logic of Mr. or Mrs. Chance. If the death of those two children were cause by mercury from a vaccine, then any child who got any vaccine from this company which put mercury in their vaccines would be dead; which we know not to be. Mercury happens to be a toxin for every human -babies, kids and adults. Also, name me one child who has/had Autism and recovered because they were chelated and put on a diet. Sorry chance, I don’t buy your conspiracy theories!
It is so interesting how all of you are saying it has no effect of that vaccines dont kill when they do. Not every child dies from the vaccines, some become disabled, autistic, have autoimmune disorders, infertility, ADD.
I would like to see you drink all the additives from all vaccines that are given to children and see what would happen, well Jack Doubleday offered $20,000 to the first licensed medical dr or pharma CEO to drink it in public. the offer was increased in August 2007 to $90,000, so far noone came forward to drink this dose of chemicals.
Read the Simpsonwood reports which had people from the WHO, pharmaceutical companies, vaccine compansation program and scientists who looked at data proving that vaccines cause neurological disorders. They altered the data so that noone should see the info because they would be in trouble. The original data was finally extracted and everyone saw how the data was altered.
There is aluminum and MSG in vaccines. the MSG destroys the blood brain barrier and the aluminum will make the mercury more toxic. I dont know if you realize they give multiple vaccines at a time, some contain mercury and they all contain aluminum.
Why dont the Amish people have autistic kids? They dont vaccinate, eat healthy and live a healthy lifestyle. There are actually 4 children with autism among them, 3 were adopted after being fully vaccinated and 1 was living next to a power plant.
Since the vaccine scedule increased we went from 1 out of 10,000 autistic kids in 1983 to 1 out of 98 in 2008. Doesnt anyone connect the dots?
There are plenty of Drs out there that are speaking out about the dangers of vaccines.
Dr Russel Blaylock is great, he is a neurosurgeon, who wrote a book Excitotoxins: the taste that kills. He spoke about this too, and can get his speech online. He also has great articles on his website explaining how autism is caused by vaccines. At the end he writes how his friend was speaking to scientists and health officals in Italy when he was told, We all know that vaccines can cause neurological damage, but we must keep this from the public because it might endanger the vaccine program.
It sickens me to see how parents hold down their children so that deadly poison can be injected into them,R”L, causing them all kinds of problems. Dr who dont educate themselves about the dangers of vaccines and continue to tell people that they are safe are basically killing our children. Noone would want to harm their own child so start Educating yourself about the dangers. There are plenty great sources to go to.
Gary null has great documentaries, Autism :made in the USA, the drugging of our children, and vaccine nation- which is about someone who was put in jail because of shaken baby syndrome, but finally got out because there was proof that the vaccine killed the child.
The Hep B vaccine causes autoimmune disorders like diabetes.
To mod 80: Your guess about how mercury works is wrong, do your homework and see how deadly it really is.
To Health: Go to the DAN website and you can see videos of autistic shildren before and after, on Gary Nulls documentary, Autism:made in the USA has some unbelieveable testimonials. It will also give you an idea how the brain works when vaccines are injected.
I personally know someone who is helping a child reverse the autism. I hope you realize that Autism is caused by problems in the Gut. Basically all problems start in the gut. The Rambam has said this years ago. A good example is when people get athletes foot or when babies get thrush, we should treat the problem of too much yeast in the gut instead of putting on creams externally.
Anyone who wants to hear how vaccines causes childhood diabetes you can watch Dr Russel Blaylock, a neurosergeon on youtube ,” vaccines and brain development”. he explains it very well.
these things you say mr. or mrs. chance are very interesting but i wondor why no one ver told me that vaccines cause problems. i spoke to every professional in the field be it doctors or homeopathic people and they never said that veccines cause these problems. does that mean we should never vaccinate our kids. sorry but this doesn’t make sense!!!!! and by the way i went to dr bigger and better than the dr you mentioned in manhatten and they said in no way possible are the vaccines responsible for autism or diabetes. my daughter got all the vaccines on time and true she became autistic but my son i did not give him any shots until he turned 3 but by the time he was 9 months he was autistic. i know that does not prove anything but i just wonder. and the person that you know who is reversing autism sorry but autism is not a sickness like strep ar bronchites where you take medicine and become well its a disorder in the brain not in the gut like chance says and there is no cure, that is a fact believe me i wish there was!!!!!!!
The reason why noone told you vaccines cause problems is because you would stop vaccinating your children. Read the insert for each vaccine. They actually have some side effects written right there, did you ever open any of the vaccine inserts and check what the side effects are? And I am not so sure that you did not vaccinate your son and became autistic at 9 months?
The bigger Drs have bigger connections to the Pharmaceutical companies so of course they will say it is not true. But the head of the CDC, who now works for Merck said herself that when there are underlying issues and kids get vaccinated yes they will get autism “like” symptoms, which is autism.
Autism is not a sickness, because it is not a virus, and no medication will take it away. You have to detoxify the body from all these heavy metals for them to reverse this. Any stomach issue that persist for a while will affect the brain. This is what happens with autistic kids, and I am sure your children had diarea or some sort of stomach issue.
If you take a look at Dr Russels Blaylock speeches about the connection between the vaccines and brain function you may start to understand. I think you are upset because you could have prevented your childrens situation, but its never too late to try to reverse their problem, but first you have to realize the source. Do your research and dont give up. Any references you need dont hesitate to ask.
And yes I stopped vaccinating my kids after they were all having problems and my youngest child who was never vaccinated is brilliant, has no need for OT,pT, speech, special ed or counseling like my other kids. People are amazed at this child. He was also never sick like my other kids ,no ear infections or any problem.
To chance,
I don’t have the time to answer every one of your posts, but this will be for your post here and the one in mental health. Unfortunately, you are the one not educated, not me. The fact is you have been conned by a few “so-called” physicians, who have found that it’s more lucrative to con a few people with their conspiracy theories than to practice medicine. The facts are -you haven’t done any research, not me. I understand why you are not ammendable to logic because you have some sick kids. I, with thousands of others, who practice conventional medicine, know more than a handful of quacks. It’s not us who are all trying to con people. And 99% of us don’t get money from big pharm. It’s those few docs you mention who are conning many people like yourself. Try to put your emotions aside and do the right thing for your healthy child and get him/her vaccinated. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow, but most likely your kids are ill due to genetics. Don’t let your one healthy child get sick with a preventable illness that are prevented with immunizations.
i’m truly sorry chance but no i did not vaccinate my son and he is autistic anyway. yes its true on a much lesser degree of autism than my daughter but autistic regardless. and yes i am in touch with all types of dr. and the pros of vaccinating your children outway the cons. not every child becomes autistic or diabetic and most children don’t. and NO MY CHILDREN NEVER HAD OR HAVE STOMACH PROBLEMS. not every child with autism has stomach problems although it does happen often. i really think that you chance should be careful of what you say because lots of people might get angry at you and alot of people are ignorant and will not do the right thing and might argue with their dr. without too much knowledge. so please be careful!!!!! and health you are extremely correct. most children become sick bec. its due to genetics and that is scientifaclly proven.
Chance, how can you send your kids to schools with all the infections going around that they’re not vaccinated for? I bet ur gonna tell me you home school!
TO HEalth,
Since when has genetics played a role in autism? The phamaceutical companies will do everything to make you think the way they want you to. If it did play a role , then why arent there the same amount of autistic kids who are 50 years old as 15 year old or even 5 year olds? The autism rate jumped when they added additional vaccines to the schedule. You are a product of the pharmaceutical companies, the medical schools are sponsored by them so you learn what they want you to know. These Drs that are paid by big pharma are pushing vaccines and medication, so I am not sure what you meant.
I wonder if you even bothered to do your own research, but I guess not. You are the perfect Dr for the phama companies because you believe them. Check the Simpsonwood report- they saw there are problems with vaccines and covered it up. Its all about Money.
Also what is the problem of sending unvaccinated kids to school? They have a strong immune system and if they get sick nothing will happen. These vaccines are not protecting them anyways and most of the diseases are regular childhood illnesses, nothing dangerous.
I will NOT vaccinate after my research.
I feel bad for your kids! anyways, chance, are you ever going to answer about people getting diabetes before vaccines came out?|
yeah mr or mrs chance you never did explain how people got diabetes before there were vaccines???? people in europe had diabetes and they did not get vaccinated. and you should be careful about pharm. companies. i dont think dr. give shots because they get paid i’m really sorry but that is ludacrious. good drs. dont care for our children because they get money sorry but that sounds very selfish and not true. maybe you had a bad experience with doctors and you feel that they are not being totally devoted and dedicated to your kids. its unfair to say that bec. of shots you get sick and i keep on asking you to be careful but you insist that you are right. the truth is everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you dont want to vaccinate your children you have every right but please dont say that bec of shots people get sick!!!!!!
very well said mosh3
I guess you cant believe that people get sick from vaccines, but you just like to argue without looking into the matter. Juvenile diabetes is definately linked to vaccines, and autism is not genetic, otherewise you would be autistic or the grandparents of this child should be autistic. If this is not true then its not genetic. These are fabricated lies so you should not look into the cause and keep on vaccinating.
About the Dr getting paid from the Pharmaceutical companies, well they actually post the list of drs they paid online, so who are you kidding?
People in Europe did get vaccinated, so I dont know where you get your info. You dont seem to do to much research and dont plan to either, you just want to argue to feel good about the fact you dont do anything to help your kids. Just start with the book called natural cures they dont want you to know about and you will get plenty of shocking info that you dont want to believe.
ok enough this blog is supposed to be about how we can deal with diabetes and if people have abny advice on dealing with these issues. not about the contraversiol topic of vaccines. the truth is member chance i personally dont care what you do and i hope your children are well and that your friends and relatives do their homework before following what seems to be right.yw moderator 72 maybe you should explain to everyone what this blog is really about. like for example i have a 16 year old son and now that its almost pesach does anyone know which wine has the least sugar and not alot of alcohol. also is it okay for him to eat regular matzoh or must it be shmurah?
To chance,
Here is one researcher, but I’m sure this Dr. doesn’t know as much as yours:
How Is Autism and Genetics Research Conducted?
Several organizations are in the process of collecting a great deal of information about families which include autistic people. The Autism Genetic Resource Exchange is one such organization. They, along with several other institutions, actively solicit family involvement in research programs to find out more about genetics and autism.
Information collected by organizations like AGRE is freely shared with the research community. Their raw data is leading to a greater understanding of the relationship between heredity and autism.
When Will We Know Which Genes Are Implicated in Autism?
The Here’s what Dr. Croen has to say about the state of genetic research and autism:
The truth is that, while genetics is almost certainly a causative factor in autism, any useful treatments based on genetics are a long way off. Meanwhile, however, we do know a few things:
References:
Interview with Dr. Lisa Croen, Ph.D., of the Kaiser Permanente Research Institute
To chance,
I wish my school was sponsored from Big Pharm. I wouldn’t had to pay tuition. Maybe you can get your Drs. -like Tenpenny to sponsor me and then I’ll be singing the same tune as you. Even doctors working in the field (except for Big Pharm employees.) aren’t allowed (by law) to take anything but food and drug samples from them. Sorry, noone that I know gets any cold hard cash from any drug company!
To Mosh3: Kedem came out with low carb wines this year, you might want to check those out. Regarding matzho; Here a link to FWD 2010 pesach booklet, it includes some info on matzo/carb count.
To Health: If it was genetic like they would love you to believe them why isnt there any autistic people in Mosh3 family besides the kids(no grand parents or parents are autistic) so please do your homework. All these kids become autistic after vaccination , doesnt that make more sense than genetics? There arent thousands of 50 year old with autism and look at when the autism rate went up, the same time the vaccine schedule increased. And yes there are DRs getting money from Pharma companies look at their quarterly report, it is accessible online.
that is interesting member chance but my aunt and cousin are autistic and my husband’s cousin is special ed too and his son has autism so what does that mean and the cousin’s child who is autistic did not get vaccinated so!!!!!
I wont respond to this forum since you dont seem interested in taking any action, but only interested in proving that you are right. You can go to DR Palevsky speech “rethinking illness,a new approach on keeping children healthy” on Wednesday April 28,2010 at 6:30 the location in Manhattan is 5 west 63 street.
I think Health should definately attend since you seem to know a lot about medicine but not about the other side of the story. (problems with over the counter medication, antibiotics, pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines)This should really be an eye opener for you. Check out his website for more info.
To chance,
I’m running to the speech and also donating one million to the cause. Really there is about zero CHANCE I will be there. I’m not interested in proving I’m right, what I am interested in -is that you protect your healthy child from disease by vaccinating your kid!
well member health i truly hope that chance listens to you although i highly doubt it. it seems to me that you chance dont want to listen to the other side of pros of vaccines just like you claim we are not interested in listening to you. so we are at a standstill but the truth is this forum is supposed to discuss ideas on how to help our children who already have the diabetes or autism not on how to worry about the vaccines.
well i guess everyone is still busy with after pesach things. i just wanted to know if anyone knows if dr. perkavald takes teenagers or at what age he sees paitents. thanx and have a good shabbos.
I was really excited for this forum and was hoping to get some support.
Let see if I’ll succeed… How many diabetics can we count here?
count me in!
maybe just maybe we should listen to our pediatricians the ones that know their stuff and dont put our children into sakana
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You can all go to naturalnews.com and put into search box ” how to halt diabetes” and you will see how this person Mike Adams got rid of his diabetes.
Hope this helps. There is a lot of info on how to keep yourself healthy.
Scientists Discover Vitamin C can Halt Diabetes Damage
Wednesday, July 08, 2009 by: Michael Jolliffe, citizen journalist
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(NaturalNews) A team of US and British scientists has discovered that a combined therapy of insulin and vitamin C can stop disease-related blood vessel damage in patients with Type I diabetes.
i’m curious member chance did you read the article you told us to look at it says with both insulin and vit. c
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