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August 2, 2010 4:21 am at 4:21 am #979582
Cofeefan -You sound like previous posters. I don’t single out any particular person. The healthiest diabetic is someone who maintains their ideal weight. This is just a medical fact. This is my job, most patients only want to hear whatever they want to. To work in the medical field, you can’t always do that.August 2, 2010 4:35 am at 4:35 am #979583
health- what is your job?August 2, 2010 4:39 am at 4:39 am #979584
Health sciences student and what do you do?August 2, 2010 4:47 am at 4:47 am #979585
a student does not compare to living and breathing diabetes 24/7 sorryAugust 2, 2010 4:54 am at 4:54 am #979586
When did I compare myself to diabetics? And you didn’t answer the question that I asked.August 2, 2010 4:59 am at 4:59 am #979587
you didn’t compare you say things that make it seem as if you know everything there is to know about diabetes and i was simply pointing out that you can’t know everything unless you live with it like i (and so many others) do.August 2, 2010 5:49 am at 5:49 am #979588
cofeefan -So I assume you only go to a doc that has diabetes also. Or you never go to any doc, just practice medicine on yourself.August 2, 2010 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #979589YW Moderator-72Participant
Health – one thing we diabetics do not do is to listen to an anonymous blogger (yes even a health sciences student blogger) when it comes to the management of our diabetes. We may use reliable medical sites (mayoclinic, webmd etc.) to gather information and to further our education and treatment however our primary source is our doctor.
The purpose of this thread was not to attack or put down people with diabetes. It is an anonymous outlet for people who may need to express themselves. Although the thread is not closed to non-diabetics, I request that you respect the rights of those that are diabetics and that do post here. Every diabetic person on the board knows more about diabetes and living with diabetes than you do. Please stop offering your unqualified “medical” advice.August 2, 2010 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #979590
i go to a doctor who SPECIALIZES in diabetes and knows A LOT more than you do. someone who has been in the profession for over 30 years and is the best in the city, so please i am begging you to STOP telling us what to do!! i feel like i am getting no where with this so from now on i am gonna just ignore what you say ok?August 3, 2010 2:51 am at 2:51 am #979591
Cofeefan -You can ignore what I post just like I can ignore what you post. Mod- 72- I haven’t seen anyone “attack or put down people with diabetes”, like you say. And just because you don’t like what I say doesn’t make it -“unqualified “medical” advice”. BTW, Rebbitzen asked a question on page 6 -why don’t the both of you answer it?August 3, 2010 3:29 am at 3:29 am #979592
I feel like im really slacking off in my eating habits and numbers..any suggestions? I started eating cake and all the good stuff (no real sugar of course but everything else) and i just shoot more insulin for it! I know this is really not good but i cant seem to get myself back on track. PLEASE HELP!thanksAugust 3, 2010 1:35 pm at 1:35 pm #979593
allsr8- i know the feeling! it gets really hard sometimes espcially for me on shabbos when everyone else is eating anything they want! what i do it take a TINY piece to feel like i am eating it (it’s different because i am on the pump i have more “freedom”) and just bolus for it! i can’t do so m uch of it because it messes up my sugars but i hate feeling restricted by my diabetes so i give myself some more “breathing room” sometimes. it seems to work for me! just keep reminding yourself that in 20-30 years when you IYH don’t have any complications from diabetes it’ll be well worth it!!August 3, 2010 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm #979594
Health, what you learn from ‘textbooks’ greatly differs from real life and real patientes doctors deal with. You can’t compare a medical student with a doctor with expereince in his feild.
allsgr8, You can eat as much of cake and candy as you want just like a person without T1, as long as you cover for it. It’s just as unhealthy for non T1’s to eat junk as it is for you… If your watching your weight that’s a different story:)August 3, 2010 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #979596
cofeefan- I like the idea about thinking 20-30 yrs ahead of time..that might help! thanks 🙂
forever1- I do agree with you to some extent but I dont feel that its the right way to live… my numbers are way better when i stick away from junk food (almost completely) and stick to protein, veggies ,whole wheat crackers and ww bread etc… also, the prob with eating cake and stuff is that i always take a guess as to how much to cover for it but sometimes im right and often im wrong!! 🙁August 3, 2010 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #979597tralalaMember
the prob with eating cake and stuff is that i always take a guess as to how much to cover for it but sometimes im right and often im wrong!! 🙁
wow, that sounds heimish! But 1 thing, you don’t have to eat these ugly cakes ‘without’ sugar, it doesn’t make a difference,I don’t really understand how it works but that’s what rav Meisels says anyways.
and about the feet, I started having complicatients (didn’t have problems, only the test showed it)and after my a1c dropped, it went away b”h!btw, my a1c now is……..6.3!!!August 3, 2010 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #979598
Forever 1- When did I compare myself to a doctor or specialist? Two posters here said I have no right to comment because I’m not at that level. So not true -I have every right to comment as a medical professional even if there are others on higher levels than me!August 3, 2010 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #979599YW Moderator-72Participant
“Health sciences student and what do you do?”
“When did I compare myself to a doctor or specialist?”
“I have every right to comment as a medical professional”
please do us all a favor: make up one story as to who you are and stick with it.
how does a health sciences STUDENT qualify you to comment as a medical professional? you can comment all you want, from the way I read the board most of the others really do not care what you have to say. you should understand one thing – a support group is not looking for a lecture they are looking to discuss feelings and real life scenarios. so keep on posting and I for one will just start ignoring you.August 3, 2010 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #979600
tralala- when i said I dont eat real sugar i meant i dont eat candies and taffys etc. When i eat cake you bet i eat the real stuff!!!August 3, 2010 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm #979601
allsgr8, I get you, it’s my daily battle too. The problem is the guessing, and the more carbs the bigger a chance of making a mistake. and then my #’s are all messed up for the next few days!
(was just trying to say health wise cake/junk is just as unhealthy for non D’s, dealing with the BG after effects is a different story…)August 3, 2010 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #979602
tralala, Sugar free does not mean carb free, that is what Rabbi Meisels meant.August 3, 2010 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #979603
for me i have the biggest problem with the homemade things because there are no nutrition facts so i can’t be sure how many carbs there are there so i have to estimate. when i eat a piece of cake or a cookie that has a label it always is “easier” to give insulin. my mother makes everything with splenda for me. and lucky for me i dont like “real sugar” as allsg8 put it because then it’s one less thing i’m tempted to eat!August 4, 2010 3:16 am at 3:16 am #979604
Mod 72- “I for one will just start ignoring you.” What do you mean start? You already started -“one thing we diabetics do not do is to listen to an anonymous blogger”. Why repeat yourself?
You seem to have a myopic view of what a med pro is. I believe anybody with a significant amount of medical knowledge more than a layman is a med pro, whether they have a piece of paper or not. And btw, I am certified/degreed in certain areas -I just went back to school to further my education. Here’s some advice you can ignore (if you want) -Diabetics should have their toenails cut by a podiatrist.August 4, 2010 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #979605
cofeefan- if you really wanna have an easier time with homemade stuff you can calculate the amount of carbs in the recipe and then divide it by the serving size that your eating. Its easy once you get the hang of it! Also, i often find that the nutrition facts are not correct for many some store bought items which doesnt make any sense to me..like if ill give myself insulin according to the carbs listed ill be really high after i eat the food!!!??? Any one else have that problem?August 5, 2010 12:44 am at 12:44 am #979606
allsg8- i find that the nutrtion facts are usually fine. my pump has a feature that tells me how many carbs are in a lot of food, like fruits, vegetables, beans, rice, etc and i go by that very often and my sugars are normally fine! how do you calculate carbs in a whole recipe? sounds very interesting!!August 5, 2010 1:54 am at 1:54 am #979607
Sure do! One example is the diet ice cream, it writes 15 grams per serving and serves 2. How could 4 oz. of diet ice cream (made with splenda) equal to 30 grams of carbs when a 1/2 cup serving of regular ice cream is only 15g??August 5, 2010 2:41 am at 2:41 am #979608
cofeefan- well ill make up a recipe. if lets say the recipe calls for 1 cup flour, 1/2 cup sugar, 2 eggs, 1/4 cup orange juice and a stick margarine. You do the math:
flour is 22 grams of carb for 1/4 cup, 22×4= 88 carbs
sugar is 4 grams carb for 1 tsp. (there are 3 tsp in a tbsp. and 8 tbsp in 1/2 cup) so, we need to calculate for 24 tsp. at 4 grams each. 4×24=96 carbs
orange juice- 29 grams of carb for 1 cup. 26/4=6.5 carbs
SO, 88+96+6.5= 190.5 grams of carbs in the entire recipe! divide this by the amount of cookies the recipe makes, lets say 12 cookies = 15.88 = 16 carbs for each cookie!!! Whew!August 5, 2010 2:51 am at 2:51 am #979609
cofeefan, try these two sites (took it from FWD) you basically enter the ingredients and number of servings and it gives you the nutrition info.
I also sometimes use a food scale, comes with preprogramed foods.August 6, 2010 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #979610
wow that is really cool i am so excited to try doing that thanks!!
i’m wondering if anyone else has little black “holes” on their fingers where they test their sugars. i have millions of them even though i rate fingers. they look like dots… anyone know what i’m talking about? any suggestions how to get rid of them?August 6, 2010 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #979611
i have those black dots too…i dont know what i can do about them…also, no one ever answered my question on the feet issueAugust 6, 2010 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #979612
I also have the dots but theyre not that noticeable to anyone else besides ourselves probably… If your dots are biggish maybe try using your lancet on a lower number.. i do mine on #2.
Rebbitzen- I sort of answered your question on the top of the page..its something to do with the nerve ending getting degenerated from too much glucose circulating in the blood. It could cause s/0 to lose feeling on the bottom of their feet. It goes into the same category as kidney problems, eye problems etc.. Just like your supposed to have your eyes checked out once a year, you should have the bottoms of your feet checked out. If you have good A1c’s you’ll be fine iy’h!August 6, 2010 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #979613
all i know about diabetics and feet is that when someone chas vishalom don’t take care of their sugar levels the nerve endings in the feet and toes are affected in a negative way i know there are also other issues with the feet but not so clear exactly what they are. ll i know for sure is that every time i go to the doctor she checks my feet and is always happy with what she sees BH! the best way to prevent the problems is to keep sugar levels in good range i think! good qustion though i never really thought about it!August 8, 2010 9:13 am at 9:13 am #979615
Washing dishes helps heal these dots;) What bothers me more is the bruises my sensors leave, I can’t seem to get rid of them, anyone know of anything I could try?August 11, 2010 4:14 am at 4:14 am #979616
what’s the lowest anyone has gone? i recently was just 23August 11, 2010 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #979617
somewhere in the 40’s i think (except for the time that i was in a coma for almost an hour)August 12, 2010 2:28 am at 2:28 am #979618
That’s a long time to be in a coma for hypoglycemia.August 12, 2010 4:16 am at 4:16 am #979619
forever1- my mother will be happy to know abt the dishes….. did you try rubbing cocoa butter on the bruises? it’s supposed to help with those types of things… btw what sensor do you have? i’m looking into getting one….
rebetzin-wow that’s low…. the lowest i’ve gone was 33. what happened when you went so low? how did you get it back up?August 12, 2010 4:29 am at 4:29 am #979620
in a coma? omg ,how does that happen??August 12, 2010 4:37 am at 4:37 am #979621
well i obvously dont know how long i was in a coma im just guessing based on what happened b4 and afterAugust 12, 2010 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #979622
allsgr8- i’m so curious to know what happened! how long ago was this? what did you do? did you go the hospital? was it from hypo or hyper? (if i am being too nosey you don’t have to answer… i’m sorry!)August 12, 2010 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #979623
cofeefan- no prob! What happened was that I came home from a friends shower at which i ate a muffin and some fruit. I didnt have where to inject myself so i waited till i got hom. When i got home I checked my numbers and just corrected accordingly. I went to sleep probably almost 2 hours later and checked my numbers b4 i got into bed. I was still very high so i injected again thinking that i hadnt given enough the first time. The next think I knew I woke up with hatzola and my whole family in my bedroom. (They woke up cuz they heard me fall off of my bed) The weird thing was that I remembered seing the time at around 2:30 am and when I woke up it was around 4 i think. I think that what happened was that i woke up and tried to get out of bed to check my numbers and I must have collapsed into a coma. This happened about 1 and 1/2 years ago, about a year after i was diagnosed.August 12, 2010 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm #979624
wow that is really scary… lowest i got was on purim right after i was diagnosed i was 12 so i wanted to eat wtvr i wanted and just kept injecting myself (this was b4 i got the pump…) and it got way too low too fast and i had trouble getting it back up… from then on i learned to be more careful!August 13, 2010 4:26 am at 4:26 am #979625
Ye it was scary but i learned a good lesson for life: Rather go to sleep high than low!!August 13, 2010 4:35 am at 4:35 am #979626
absolutely!! BH you were ok!
what do you all do when you have a low? meaning what do you eat/drink? how much?August 13, 2010 4:42 am at 4:42 am #979627
Your giving me the chills; that’s really scary. My lowest was in the high 20’s but that was a few yrs ago, don’t remember the exact details. Gotta be careful with stacking insulin….August 13, 2010 4:47 am at 4:47 am #979628
You learned it the hard way, and right after you were diagnosed!
I always have a fear when correcting at night, but on the other hand, hate starting my date with an out of range number. I used to rely on my CGM but now I sleep right through it.August 15, 2010 1:55 am at 1:55 am #979629Mosh3Member
i myself am not a diabetic but my son is so i am a little knowlegable in this area. he got it when he was 9 and now he is 17. i also have 2 children with autism and recently had a brain tumor but boruch hashem have survived it all and doing better. i agree with cofeefan and people that are not doctors or health providers should really not give advice on how to manage anything. i am sorry to hear rebetzin that you went so low, i dont think that is good. the lowest my sn ever went was 40 and right away he felt it cause he woke me up in the middle of the night with night sweats and shaking and boruch hashem i knew what to do. i insist that he check himself before going to sleep. on the subject of cakes and nosh yes i know its hard to keep to your diet esp. when everyone else can eat whatever they want, all i can say is try and hashem should give you extra strength,a dn i know that everyone is gonna yell but i tell my son to reward himself for doing a good job like buying an interesting computer game or a disk for his gameboy. some people will say that bribery but i spoke to r’ weissmandel and he said no its called positive reinforcement so its okay.August 15, 2010 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #979630yitzy99Member
“whats the thing with diabetics and feet? e/o is always concerned about feet for some reason…does anyone know anything?”
when I was younger I used to wonder why there was so many podiatrists in the neighborhood. Now that I have diabetes (type2) I know. Foot care is especially important to diabetics. A diabetic may have nerve damage to the nerves in the foot (neuropathy). The danger lies in not feeling pain and a diabetic with neuropathy may step on a nail and not feel it. Also, diabetics may have poor blood circulation in their feet. Poor blood flow makes it hard for a sore or infection to heal.August 16, 2010 3:57 am at 3:57 am #979631
yitzy – And then what happens they get a nasty infection in their foot because they never cleaned it or went to a doc to clean it because they never felt it. You would be surprised how many patients are in the hospital for this reason. Also the diabetics don’t heal well. If the wound doesn’t heal, then the diabetics end up with amputations. This btw, is way too common.August 19, 2010 4:38 am at 4:38 am #979632
so i have been dating this guy and it has come to the third date and it’s probably time for me to tell him about my diabetes…. never told anyone (a date that is….) what am i supposed to say? “oh btw i have diabetes”? and WHEN do i say it? meaning in the beginning of the date, middle or end? i’m really nervous…. anyone have any advice????? thanksAugust 19, 2010 5:48 am at 5:48 am #979633
No experience either…. wouldn’t it be easier for you (and him) to somehow let him know before you meet again?
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